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  • 11-02-2010 7:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭


    A Bottle of Jameson in Ireland 26 Euros. The same bottle in France 15 Euros... Explain??:confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Over a 100% in the price difference, its unreal:eek:

    No doubt the calvary will come on and shoot you down, saying taxes, vat, wages, the going market rate, etc. is why the price is dearer over here:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    Greed... Simply Greed


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Agree. Greed and nothing else. I've noticed it's cheaper to buy Tullamore whiskey everywhere else then Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭bookerboy


    If the Irish are stupid enough to buy it,lets sell it to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭FLievre


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Over a 100% in the price difference, its unreal:eek:

    No doubt the calvary will come on and shoot you down, saying taxes, vat, wages, the going market rate, etc. is why the price is dearer over here:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Actually all taxes included even social security tax...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Laws of supply and demand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭FLievre


    Laws of supply and demand

    What do you mean?


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,302 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    bookerboy wrote: »
    If the Irish are stupid enough to buy it,lets sell it to them.
    Otherwise called the Paddy tax - why it's cheaper to buy stuff that is exported from Ireland, than to buy it in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,085 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Laws of supply and demand

    We should demand that they supply it to us at a cheaper price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    I'm not 100% sure that the same excise rate applies to spirits as does wine but as an example .....

    Excise duty on a case of wine in Ireland up to €49.00 - in France €1.00

    Source

    I wouldn't call myself a calvary mind you but it's feckin obvious that excise duties are a huge part of the price difference.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,569 ✭✭✭✭looksee




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    FLievre wrote: »
    A Bottle of Jameson in Ireland 26 Euros. The same bottle in France 15 Euros... Explain??:confused:

    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Over a 100% in the price difference, its unreal:eek:

    No doubt the calvary will come on and shoot you down, saying taxes, vat, wages, the going market rate, etc. is why the price is dearer over here:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    It's not a 100% difference actually it's a 73% difference. From the link looksee points to the Tax exclusive price of a €24 retail bottle of whiskey is €8.82 which is a tax of 172% on the base price. I'd wager right now that the French tax exclusive price is actually higher than Ireland. So anytime you might want to reevaluate your :rolleyes::rolleyes: we're waiting :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Todd Gack


    French tax on spirits is about a third http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4459974.stm. Irelands almost two thirds, it is sh1t but the rip off is mostly down to the government, not that i've any time for the drinks industry either who are experts at the rip off game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭doopa


    Todd Gack wrote: »
    French tax on spirits is about a third http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4459974.stm. Irelands almost two thirds, it is sh1t but the rip off is mostly down to the government, not that i've any time for the drinks industry either who are experts at the rip off game.

    Most of the difference on things like alcohol, air fares and petrol (well any fuel) is down to local differences in taxes - levied by the goverments. If you want to really get ripped off on alcohol try Denmark or Sweden, Finland et al.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    A bottle of Jameson was around €16 at xmas in dunnes & tesco.
    Todd Gack wrote: »
    French tax on spirits is about a third http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4459974.stm. Irelands almost two thirds
    Rip off France so.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭FLievre


    At Xmas...
    I'm talking all year...:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,998 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Well, Once upon a time there was this mad thing called VAT, and one day in the back woods it met a moralistic nanny state that liked to practice punative lifestyle taxing (for our own good mind you), and nobody lived happily ever after....


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Originally Posted by Mr. Incognito
    Laws of supply and demand
    What do you mean?

    Irish people drink whiskey.

    French people drink wine and brandy.

    Prices reflect demand. First rule of economics. People will charge what the public are willing to pay. End of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    rubadub wrote: »
    A bottle of Jameson was around €16 at xmas in dunnes & tesco.


    Rip off France so.....

    Thats called below cost selling, and if they want to do it, they can.

    At the moment, Supervalu is on the radio advertising a dozen red roses for €4.

    Yes €4. They would cost about €20. This does not make everyone else a ripoff. They will be taking a serious hit on them but they have decided to do it so thats that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭enfield


    I needed a part for my corsa and priced it in my local Opel garage. It would be 134 euro PLUS 21% vat on top of that. I bought it new on ebay and including £8.50 shipping it came to 36 euro. Go figure.
    Regards.
    Tom.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    enfield wrote: »
    I needed a part for my corsa and priced it in my local Opel garage. It would be 134 euro PLUS 21% vat on top of that. I bought it new on ebay and including £8.50 shipping it came to 36 euro. Go figure.
    Regards.
    Tom.

    :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Overature


    i was in france a few weeks back and you could by naggins of vodka for 3 euro


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,085 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    enfield wrote: »
    I needed a part for my corsa and priced it in my local Opel garage. It would be 134 euro PLUS 21% vat on top of that. I bought it new on ebay and including £8.50 shipping it came to 36 euro. Go figure.
    Regards.
    Tom.

    That's standard procedure in the rip-off after-market spares set up operated by the main dealers, the same dealers that are going bust all over the place because no-one can afford to buy their cars, let alone spares for the cars that they already own.

    Car manufacturers make it more and more impossible for a DIY person to fix his or her car, forcing them into the main dealer because they're the only ones with the specialist equipment to do a particular job, or diagnose a problem.

    My wife's Mitsubishi ignition key/chip/fob fell apart and she was quoted €290 for a new one:eek:. Needless to say, after a bit of duct-tape and glue I "fixed" it, and our local Mitsubishi dealer can go down the toilet with all the other robbing main-dealers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    The general standard price of Jameson in Ireland is €23.50.

    What you seem to be comparing is a convience store price with some special offer in France. Most French stores seem to be €17 - €18 for a bottle.

    The price is made up as follows in Ireland

    VAT = €4.07
    Duty = €8.72
    Cost of Product = approx. €7
    Profit for store = approx. €3.70

    and in France - average price based on 3 stores with internet prices including Monoprix, Telemart & Nicholas = €17.55
    VAT = €2.97
    Duty = €4.06
    Cost of product = approx. €7
    Profit = €3.52

    Moral - learn about different costs / taxes before accusing Irish retailers of a rip off.

    Anyone for paying Franch levels of paye taxes??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    Overature wrote: »
    i was in france a few weeks back and you could by naggins of vodka for 3 euro

    and a naggin of huzzar vodka in the carry out off licence is €3.99 which includes duty @ 2.34 & vat of 70c leaving 95c between cost of product & profit.

    Again - showing that Irish retailers are not the rip offs people tend to think.

    However UK retailers in Ireland such as Debenhams, Monsoon, Homebase, Halfords Argos, River Island & Wallis just simply take the piss. - But as usual, Irish people like to diss their own based on taxi driver style gossip instead of finding out the real breakdown of costs (available widely on the internet)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭dh0661


    91011 wrote: »
    The general standard price of Jameson in Ireland is €23.50.

    What you seem to be comparing is a convience store price with some special offer in France. Most French stores seem to be €17 - €18 for a bottle.

    The price is made up as follows in Ireland

    VAT = €4.07
    Duty = €8.72
    Cost of Product = approx. €7
    Profit for store = approx. €3.70

    and in France - average price based on 3 stores with internet prices including Monoprix, Telemart & Nicholas = €17.55
    VAT = €2.97
    Duty = €4.06
    Cost of product = approx. €7
    Profit = €3.52

    Moral - learn about different costs / taxes before accusing Irish retailers of a rip off.

    Anyone for paying Franch levels of paye taxes??

    I thought the difference in tax rates should have been highlighted in a larger font in bold red.

    From the words of a wise man (my Dad) IDIOT TAX. :(


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