De Búrca resigns from Greens, Seanad

Macha

Laminations wrote: »

How do you get that from what she said?

Er..because it was her not getting the position that caused her to resign?

Laminations wrote: »

It seems the government reneging on the promise to give the position to a Green (any Green) and John Gormleys acceptance of this was the last straw in all this

That's her side of the story. It's well known that she has been unhappy for a considerable length of time.

Riskymove

Laminations wrote: »

How do you get that from what she said? It seems the government reneging on the promise to give the position to a Green (any Green) and John Gormleys acceptance of this was the last straw in all this

indeed, its more like that the Greens not getting the job was the deciding factor (the last straw perhaps)

although it is unfortunate for the optics that it happens to be the person who was gonna get the job is the one up in arms over the issue

tbf you mentions that they offered another, very similar in terms of money, security etc, job but that she was not interested in it..so it wasn't just about her career

Laminations

taconnol wrote: »

Er..because it was her not getting the position that caused her to resign?


That's her side of the story. It's well known that she has been unhappy for a considerable length of time.

So you use her statement to suggest it was her not getting the job that caused her to resign, but when I point out that the statement suggests it was a Green (any Green) not getting the job that forced her resignation you say 'thats her side of the story?'

We only have her side of the story as to why she resigned. Another example of the Greens laying down and taking it.

Laminations

Riskymove wrote: »

tbf you mentions that they offered another, very similar in terms of money, security etc, job but that she was not interested in it..so it wasn't just about her career

Agreed. People complain that FG tried to buy George Lee off with a front bench brief. At least they were creating a front bench position for him to which he was suited. It appears they tried to buy off DeBurca with a position for which she has very little talents or experience.

Riskymove

Laminations wrote: »

Agreed. People complain that FG tried to buy George Lee off with a front bench brief. At least they were creating a front bench position for him to which he was suited. It appears they tried to buy off DeBurca with a position for which she has very little talents or experience.

yeah and furthermore, its not like she was 'just' a backbench TD in a larger party like Lee, she had a 'job' as senator which is percieved as being very cushy and coulda just shut up and kept drawing the pay cheques

Scofflaw

Riskymove wrote: »

indeed, its more like that the Greens not getting the job was the deciding factor (the last straw perhaps)

although it is unfortunate for the optics that it happens to be the person who was gonna get the job is the one up in arms over the issue

tbf you mentions that they offered another, very similar in terms of money, security etc, job but that she was not interested in it..so it wasn't just about her career

More that it's not about money, security, etc. To be fair, de Burca, like most people who go into politics, wants to make a difference. If it was just about money, she would have held onto the Senate seat, so I presume the other job didn't actually hold out any prospect of significant influence over events, whereas the MGQ job would have offered a possible springboard if not actual influence.

If that's right (and there's no saying it is, obviously) then she probably doesn't have the temperament for politics. If you look at people like Sean Haughey, they've spent years on the back benches before getting a position with influence - and that's despite actually getting elected. It's a long slow uphill road, real politics.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Macha

Scofflaw wrote: »

I presume the other job didn't actually hold out any prospect of significant influence over events, whereas the MGQ job would have offered a possible springboard if not actual influence.

Perhaps the MGQ job had more influence but after having failed to get elected to the Dail twice and failing at the European Elections, surely she would have appreciated the position in the Seanad?

Senators do have powers and senators can sit on oireachtas committees.

Scofflaw

taconnol wrote: »

Perhaps the MGQ job had more influence but after having failed to get elected to the Dail twice and failing at the European Elections, surely she would have appreciated the position in the Seanad?

Senators do have powers and senators can sit on oireachtas committees.

Sure - it doesn't really lead anywhere, though - or at least not without a really enormous input of personal effort.

cordially,
Scofflaw

CUCINA

I don't have a problem with De Burca...she is quite entitled to show her face in public!

anymore

Napoleon is supposed to have said he preferred to have generals who were lucky; whether De Burca was lucky or just has good timing, she is entitled to savour tonight's events !