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Irish regiments of the British army (1916)

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  • 13-02-2010 4:28pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Some of the Irish regiments as listed in the Regimental nicknames and traditions of the British army (1916)


    ANIMAL BADGES The King's Own Royal Lancaster Rgiment wears the Lion of England for a badge, and it is interesting to note that many other regiments go to the animal kingdom for their crests, the Royal Warwickshire Regiment wearing an antelope as a badge ; the King's Liverpool Regiment, West Yorkshire Regiment and Royal West Kent Regiment, a horse; the Buffs, the Scottish Rifles, Royal Berkshire Regiment, North Staffordshire Regiment and York and Lancaster Regiment, a dragon ; the Gordon Highlanders, Royal Munster Fusiliers, Royal Dublin Fusiliers, Leicester- shire Regiment and Hampshire Regiment, a tiger ; the West Riding Regiment, Connaught Rangers, Seaforth Highlanders, and the Highland Light Infantry, an elephant ; the Royal Irish Fusiliers, an eagle ; the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, a cat ; and the Bedfordshire Regiment, a stag
    The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers were for many years the only regiment in the British Army using the old Irish war pipes, but now other Irish regiments have adopted the custom and possess full pipe bands. The Irish war pipe has but two drones, as distinctive from the Scottish bagpipes which have three.

    BATTLE HONOURS. Before the great war on the Continent the King's Royal Rifle Corps were credited with the highest number of battle honours, viz., 40, the Gloucester Regiment being second with 34, then in order the Rifle Brigade 33, Highland Light Infantry 32, Black Watch and Gordon Highlanders 3 1 each, Royal Welsh Fusiliers, Royal Scots, South Staffordshire Regiment and South Lancashire Regiment 29 each, Oxford- shire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry 27, Sherwood Foresters, Seaforth Highlanders, Royal Munster Fusiliers, Northamptonshire Regiment and Royal Dublin Fusiliers 25 each, and The Buffs, East Surrey Regiment and Grenadier Guards 24 each. The 16th Lancers have the highest number of honours amongst the Cavalry regiments, viz., 1 8, the 9th Lancers having 1 6, and the 1 4th Hussars 1 5.


    4th (Royal Irish) DRAGOON GUARDS THE 4th Dragoon Guards raised in 1685, was originally known as " Arran's Cuirassiers," or the "6th Horse," and in 1788 "The Fourth Dragoon Guard*," and later on the words "Royal Irish" were added. Whilst on service in Ireland it obtained the name of the " Blue Horse," from its facings being of that colour. During the Crimean War the regiment took part in the famous charge of the Heavy Brigade at Balaklava, a memorable feat which has hardly received the recognition it deserved. The regiment rode into the charge cheering madly and did terrible execution They are the only regiment of Dragoon Guards with an Irish title. Nicknames: "The Buttermilks" on account of their lengthened stay in Ireland, during which many of the men acquired farms ; and the " Mounted Micks."
    On Standard, the Harp and Crown and the Star of the Order of St. Patrick. " Peninsula," " Balaklava," " Sevastopol," " Tel-el- Kebir," "Egypt, 1882." Motto : " Quit teftarabil ? " (Who will separate Uniform, Scarlet. Facing*, Blue. Head-dress, Brass helmet with white plume ; band, black plume. Forage cap. Blue, with blue band. Linked Regiment, 7th Dragoon Guards. Special arm badge for Sergeant*, Star of the Order of St. Patrick.

    5th (Royal Irish) LANCERS RAISED as the " Royal Irish Dragoons" in 1689, and in 1858 became "The 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers." In recognition of the prominent part it took in Marlborough's campaigns, and par- ticularly of its distinguished conduct at Blenheim, Marlborough directed that the captured kettle- drums should be borne at the head of the regiment, and that the establishment should be nine troops. At Ramillies, with the Royal Scots Greys, it cut off two battalions of the Grenadiers of Picardie, and almost annihilated a third battalion before a body of French horse galloped to the rescue. To this the regiment owed the privilege it formerly enjoyed of wearing Grenadier caps like the Royal Scots Greys. Nicknames : At one time called " The JDaily Advertisers." More popularly known as " The Redbreasts" or " Irith Lancers."

    " Ramillies," " Oudenarde," " Malplaquet." " Defence of Ladysmith," " South Africa. ! 899-1902. Motto : Qifit separabit ? (Who shall separate >) Uniform, Blue. Faclngt, Scarlet. Head-drtu, Lance cap of black leather with upper part and top of scarlet cloth. Green plume. Forage cap, Blue, with scarlet band. Linked Regiment, 1 2th (Prince of Wales'* Royal) Lancer*. Special arm badge for Sergeants, Harp and Crown.

    6th (Inniskilling) DRAGOONS THE regiment was raised in 1689. In 1690 the corps was styled the "6th, or The Innis- killing Regiment of Dragoons." Its brilliant conduct as part of the Union Brigade at the Battle of Waterloo is a matter of history. During the Crimean War it took part in the famous charge of the Heavy Brigade at Balaklava, a memorable feat which has hardly received the recognition it deserved. Of more recent years the regiment saw a great deal of active service in South Africa. About J715 it was known as "The Black Dragoons," from being mounted on black horses. It achieved a high reputation for gallantry in Flanders. Nicknames : " The old Inniskillings," and " The Skilljngers." Popularly known as "The Innis- killings," from its badge " The Castle of Inniskilling."
    On Guidon, The Castle of Inniskilling, with the St. George's Colours, and the word " Inniskilling" underneath. " Dettingen," " Warburg," " Willems," " Waterloo," "Balaklava," "Sevastopol," " South Africa, 1899-1902." Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Primrose. Hcad-Jreu, White metal helmet, with white plume ; band, scarlet plume. Forage cap, Blue, with primrose band. Horse plume, White. Linked Regiment, 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays). Allied Regiment, 25th Brant Dragoons of Canada, Brantford, Ontario. Special arm badge for Sergeants, Castle of Inniskilling
    8th (King's Royal Irish) HUSSARS THE 8th Hussars was raised in Ireland in 1693 and has always been closely associated with the Emerald Isle. It was known as "St. George's " from its Colonel's name in 1 740-55 ; also as the " Cross Belts " in 1 768 from the circumstance that it was permitted to wear the sword belt over the right shoulder, in place of round the waist as usual in dragoon regiments, for its gallant conduct at the battle of Saragossa, where it captured the belts of the Spanish cavalry. The regimental motto " Pristinoe virtutis memores," was specially con- ferred on their corps in commemoration of its brilliant gallantry at the battle of Leswarree in India. During the Crimean War it formed one of the regiments in the famous charge of the Light Brigade at the battle of Balaklava. The 8th Hussars and 17th Lancers have seen much service together, and they call them- selves from their numbers "The Twenty Fives." In the Indian Mutiny five Victoria Crosses were won by the regiment.

    "Leswarree," " Hindoostan," "Alma,"' " Balaklava," " Inkerman," "Sevastopol," "Central India,' ' "Afghanistan, 1879-80," " South Africa, 1900-02." Motto : " 'Pristine: virtutit memores " (The memory of former valour). Uniform, Blue. Collar Badge, The Harp and Crown. Head-dress, Busby, with red and white plume and scarlet busby bag. Forage cap. Red. Linked Regiment, 4th (Queen's Own) Hussars. Special arm badge for Sergeants, Harp and Crown.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭BullyBeef


    IRISH GUARDS RAISED in 1900 by the late Queen Victoria to commemorate the bravery of the Irish Regi- ments in the South African War. All ranks have worthily upheld the high traditions of the Brigade of Guards in their first campaign, being dis- tinguished for conspicuous bravery in many of the frequent actions against the overwhelming German forces in France and Belgium. Many decorations have been won, among them being the Victoria Cross awarded to Sergeant Michael O'Leary whose great bravery has been widely extolled among the Allies. Nicknamed " Bob's Own," from the fact that the late Lord Roberts was the first Colonel of the regiment.
    Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dress, Bearskin cap with blue plume on right side. Forage cap, Blue, with green band. Regimental March, " St. Patrick's Day." The Buttons on the Tunic are placed in fours.

    THE ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT RAISED in 1 683. After serving afloat as Marines it went to Flanders, where its splendid valour at the assault on the Castle of Namur on 20th August, 1695, won for it the admiration of the whole of the Allied army. This gallant feat, performed under the eyes of the King, won for the regiment the distinguished title of the Royal Regiment of Foot of Ireland, and the King con- ferred upon it the right of displaying the badge of the harp and crown, and that of the lion of Nassau, with the motto " Virtutis Namurcensis Prasmium." Was one of the Irish Regiments which fought so gallantly in South Africa and to whose bravery the Irish Guards were raised in commemoration. "The Royal Irish" is the only one now in existence out of nineteen regiments raised in Ireland from independent companies of musketeers and pikemen. Nicknames : " The Namurs," and " Paddy's Blackguards."
    The Sphinx, superscribed " Ef ypt." The Dragon, superscribed " China." "Namur, 1695," "Blenheim," " Ramillies," " Oudenarde," " Malplaquet." "Pegu," "Sevastopol" " New Zealand," " Afghanistan. 1 879-80," " Tel-el-Kebir," " Egypt, 1 882." "Nile, 1884-85," " South Africa, 1900-02." Motto : Virtutii Namurcensia Prasmium (The Reward of Valour at Namur). Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dress, Helmet. Cap, Blue with scarlet band. Regimental March, " Garry Owen." Allied Regiment, 7th (Wellington West Coast) Regiment of New Zealand.


    THE ROYAL INNISKILLING FUSILIERS FORMED in 1689. Proceeding to the West Indies it greatly distinguished itself at the storming and capture of the citadel of St. Lucia. In recognition of " the steady and intrepid bearing of the officers and men of the regiment," Sir Ralph Abercromby directed that the garrison on marching out should lay down their arms to the Inniskillings. During the Peninsular War, at Castella, a French officer advancing in front of the line, challenged anyone in the regiment to single combat. His wish was immediately complied with by Captain Waldron, who after a few passes, laid the Frenchman dead. The Inniskillings then dashed forward with the bayonet, and the enemy broke and fled before their irresistible onslaught. The regiment has reaped honour and glory in all parts of the world. The 2nd Battalion were nicknamed "The Lumps."
    The Sphinx, superscribed " Egypt." "Martinique, 1762," " Havannah." "St. Lucia, 1778, 1796," "Maida," "Badajoz," "Salamanca," "Vittoria," "Pyrenees," " Nivelle," "Orthes." "Toulouse." " Peninsula," "Waterloo," " South Africa, 1835. 1846-7," " Central India," " Relief of Ladysmith," " South Africa, 1 899- 1 902." Motto : Nee aspera terrent (Nor do difficulties deter). Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dress, Racoon-skin cap with grey plume on left side. Cap, Blue, with scarlet band. Tiegimental JKCarch," British Grenadiers." The regiment was the first to introduce the Irish war pipe into the Army.

    THE ROYAL IRISH RIFLES THE regiment was raised in 1793 in Dublin by Col. Fitch, and became known as " Fitch's Grenadiers," the title being bestowed in humorous allusion to the small stature of the men. They, however, soon showed they could fight as well as the finest grenadiers in the Army, reaping glory in many a hot engagement during the succeeding years. The regiment was converted into Rifles in 1881 when the 86th Foot was linked with the 83rd as sister battalion. The 86th regiment was raised in 1 792, as the Royal County Downs, and served for some years as marines, and later in Egypt. During the ten succeeding years the regiment travelled twice round Africa, served in India and the Red Sea, twice crossed the Egyptian Desert, served in South Africa, Ceylon, and elsewhere, the service being so strenuous that during five years in India over a thousand men laid down their lives. The fine physique of the ranks earned for them the name of the " Irish Giants."
    The Sphinx, $uper*cribed "Egypt." "India. ""Cape of Good Hope. 1806," "Talavera," "Bourbon," "Busaco," "Fuentes d'Onor," "Ciudad Rodrigo," " Badajoz," " Salamanca," " Vittoria," " Nivelle." " Orthe*," "Toulouse," "Peninsula," "Central India," "South Africa, 1899-1902." Motto : Quis separebit P (Who shall separate > ). Uniform, Green. Facings, Dark Green. Head-dress, Black fur busby, with black and green plume Cap, Green with green band. Tlegimentml JKarch, " Off, Off, said the Stranger."

    PRINCESS VICTORIA'S (Royal Irish Fusiliers) THE 1st Battalion (87th Foot) was raised by General Doyle in Ireland in 1793 and was fighting in 1794 in Belgium and afterwards aw a great deal of rough service in South America. It was, however, in the Peninsular War that it earned undying fame, charging the enemy who were in greatly superior numbers, at Barrosa, with such fury as to overthrow them, and led to the capture of an eagle by Sergt. Patrick Masterman, whose grandson won a V.C. in South Africa. In recognition of its splendid bravery the regiment was given a Royal title and directed to display an eagle as badge. The regiment has exhibited the same high standard of bravery in all its subsequent campaigns. The 2nd Battalion (89th Foot), raised in 1 793, also made a splendid name for courage. Nicknames: 1st Battalion, "The Old Fogs," or the " Faugh-a-Ballagh Boys " ; 2nd Battalion, "The Rollickers"

    The Sphinx, superscribed " Egypt." "Montevideo," "TalaTera," "Barrosa," "Java," "Tarifa," "Vittori*," " Nivelle," "Niagara," "Orthes," "Toulouse," "Peninsula," " Ava," "Sevastopol," " Tel-el- Kebir," "Egypt, 1882, 1884" "Relief of Ladysmith," "South Africa. 1899-1902." Motto : Faugh-a-Ballagh (Clear the way). Uniform, Scarlet. Facingj, Blue. Head-dress, Racoon-skin cap with green plume on left side Cap, Blue with scarlet band. Rtgimental Jttarch, " British Grenadiers."

    THE CONNAUGHT RANGERS 1 st Battalion (88th Foot) dates from 1 793, being raised in Connaught, and was known then by the same title it still bears. It has had a most adventurous career, being ship- wrecked and seeing hard service in India, Egypt, Ceylon, and South America, and subsequently joining Wellington in the Peninsula, winning high distinction in many battles, especially at the sieges of Ciudad Rodrigo and Badajos. In 1819 the regiment was given permission to create a regimental order of merit, the 1 st class being for those who had been in twelve or more general actions, and no fewer than 70 rank and file then serving qualified, there being nearly 130 who had been in from six to eleven actions, and over four hundred who had served in one to five actions. The 2nd Battalion (94th Foot) dates from 1823. Nickname : " The Devil's Own," called so by General Picton for their undaunted bravery in face of the enemy ; also " The Garvies."
    The Elephant. The Sphinx, superscribed " Egypt." " Seringa patam," "Talavera," "Busaco," " Fuentes d'Onor," "Ciudad Rodrigo," "Badajoz," "Salamanca," " Vittoria,'' " Pyrenees," " Nivelle," " Orthes," "Toulouse/" " Peninsula," "Alma," "Inkerman," " Serastopol," " Central India," "South Africa, 1877-8-9," " Relief of Ladysmith," "South Africa, 1899-1902." Motto : Quit scparabit (Who shall separate ?). Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Green. Hcad-drat, Helmet. Cap, Blue with dark green band. Regimental March, " St. Patrick's Day."



    THE PRINCE OF WALES'S LEINSTER REGIMENT (Royal Canadians) THE Leinster Regiment is the only British corps having a Colonial title. The 1st Battalion (1 00th Foot) was raised in Canada in 1 858, and has, by marked gallantry in India,
    South Africa and Belgium, added much to the glory of the British Army. The 2nd Battalion (109th Foot) was raised in India in 1853. The regiment has many curious nicknames, those applying to the 1 st Battalion being " The Crusaders," " The Centipedes," on account of its regimental number, the 1 00th, " The Beavers," the "Old Hundredth," and "The Colonials." At one time the colours used to be decorated with maple leaves on July 1 st (Dominion Day), the maple leaf being borne as part of the badge. The 2nd Battalion is known as "The Poonah Pets " from its birthplace ; " The Steel Heads" on account of withstanding the excessive heat of the sun in Central India, and " The Lily- whites " from its white facings. The regiment was the last British infantry unit to be quartered in Canada, and the whole country parted with them with regret.
    " Niagara," " Central India," " South Africa, 1900-02."
    Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dress, Helmet. Cap, Blue with scarlet band. Regimental JWarcA, " The Royal Canadian." Allied Regiments : 1 Oth Regiment (Royal Grenadiers) of Canada ; 1 00th Winnipeg Grenadiers of Canada.



    THE ROYAL MUNSTER FUSILIERS THE 101st and 104th Regiments, combined to make up the Royal Munster Fusiliers, are both of Indian origin and have left their names deeply inscribed on the battles which gave that country to the Empire. The 101st was raised by Clive in India in 1756 as the Bengal European Regiment and shared in all the hard fighting from Chandernagore to Burmah, till the Mutiny brought them their crowning glory. After over one hundred years* campaigning the regiment came to England for the first time in 1868. The 2nd Battalion (the 1 04th Regiment) was formed in 1 839 in Bengal and also did splendid service in the Mutiny and in the Burmah campaign. Nickname : " The Dirty Shirts," a cherished name given them a* a result of fighting in their shirt sleeves at Delhi, in 1857.
    A Royal Tiger. "Plassey," " Condore," " Masulipatam," " Badara," "Buxar." "Rohilcund, 1774," " Sholinghur," "Carnatic," " Rohilcund, 1794," "Guzerat," "Deig." " Bhurtpore." " Ghuznee, 1 839," " Afghanistan, 1839," " Ferozehah," " Sobraon," " Chillian- wallah." "Goojerat," " Punjaub," "Pegu," " Delhi. 1857," "Lucknow," "Burma, 1885-87," "South Africa. 1899-1902."
    Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dress, Racoon-akin cap with white and green plume on left side. Cap, Blue, with scarlet band. "Regimental JfCarch, " British Grenadiers." Allied Regiments, 101st Regiment (Edmonton Fusiliers) of Canada ; 104th Regiment (Westminster Fusiliers) of Canada.



    THE ROYAL DUBLIN FUSILIERS THE regiment is the oldest of the old Indian regiments. It was raised in India in the reign of Charles I., but in 1748 it became the Madras European Regiment, and under Clive rendered splendid service at many famous Indian battles which gradually won that Empire for the British Crown. The 2nd Battalion (103rd Foot) has an equally glorious Indian record. After 223 years of Indian service the 1 st Battalion came to England for the first time in 1 868, and in 1 870 the 2nd Battalion came home for the first time after 209 years service. Nicknames : " The Blue Caps." During the Indian Mutiny, Nana Sahib warned his men against those " blue-capped soldiers who fought like devils." "The Old Toughs," from the
    long period of hard service in India.

    The Roy*l Tiger, superscribed " Plassey," " Buxar." The Elephant, superscribed " Crnatic," " Mysore." " Arcot," " Condore," " Wandiwash," " Pondicherry," "Guzerat," " Sholinghur," "Nundy Droog," "Amboyna," "Ternate," "Banda," " Seringapatam," " Kirkee," " Maheidpoor," " Beni Boo Alii," "Ava," "Aden," " Mooltan," " Goojerat," " Punjaub," " Pegu," " Lucknow," " Relief of Ladysroith," " South Africa, 1899-1902."
    Motto : Spectamur JJgendo (We are judged by our deeds). Uniform, Scarlet. Facings, Blue. Head-dreis, Racoon-skin cap, with blue and green plume on left side. Cap, Bright blue, with scarlet band. Regimental Jttarch, " British Grenadiers."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭BullyBeef


    The South Irish Horse existed for a mere 20 years. Raised as The South of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry in Jan 1902 and disbanded in July 1922 along with five other famous Irish Regiments.
    http://southirishhorse.com/index.htm

    Saturday 1 July 1916
    9th Royal Irish Fusiliers
    War Diary
    http://www.webmatters.net/france/ww1_ulster_9rif.htm


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭wjrobin64


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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭wjrobin64


    looking for the commision papers for zorabable robinette
    a quartermaster in the 5th royal irish dragoons

    enlisted from the 1770's to jan 1795 when he died in Dublin

    anyone familiar with these


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    wjrobin64 wrote: »
    looking for the commision papers for zorabable robinette
    a quartermaster in the 5th royal irish dragoons

    enlisted from the 1770's to jan 1795 when he died in Dublin

    anyone familiar with these

    Hi,according to the information on this site there are no records available for them before WW1 http://www.royalirishlancers.co.uk/research.htm

    PLEASE BE AWARE THAT RECORDS FOR NCOs AND OTHER RANKS WHO SERVED DURING THE BOER WAR AND BEFORE ARE NON-EXISTANT AT THE PUBLIC RECORDS OFFICE UNLESS THEY WERE OFFICERS WHO ALSO SERVED DURING WORLD WAR ONE. PLEASE BEAR THIS IN MIND BEFORE CONTACTING ME

    This one might be some help mind you http://www.the-dicksons.org/army/soldier_search.htm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    BullyBeef wrote: »
    Some of the Irish regiments as listed in the Regimental nicknames and traditions of the British army (1916)


    ANIMAL BADGES ... it is interesting to note that many other regiments go to the animal kingdom for their crests, ...... the Gordon Highlanders, Royal Munster Fusiliers, Royal Dublin Fusiliers, Leicester- shire Regiment and Hampshire Regiment, a tiger ;

    Probably to do with the fact that both started life as Indian regiments. What do you get if you cross Bombay with Madras? a) a hot curry; b) a sore arse; c) the Royal Dublin Fusiliers?

    The answer is of course c. (Actually, it might be all three) The amalgamation of the Bombay and Madras Fusiliers produced the RDF.

    The Royal Munster Fusiliers were formed from the amalgamation of two Bengal regiments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Dear Mr BullyBeef - thank you for a couple of great and informative posts. It shows the great contribution that Irishmen have been making to the actual making of history over the last three hundred or so years, and is everything to be proud of, rather than something to be played down.

    I am immensely proud of my grandfather, Private William Victor Collins of 6 Dragoon Guards, who died on 21 June 1917 on the Somme, and also my Great Uncle, George Lord of Wallowa SK, who did the same and survived.

    Both had enlisted on the day after war broke out in 1914.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    Probably to do with the fact that both started life as Indian regiments. What do you get if you cross Bombay with Madras? a) a hot curry; b) a sore arse; c) the Royal Dublin Fusiliers?

    The answer is of course c. (Actually, it might be all three) The amalgamation of the Bombay and Madras Fusiliers produced the RDF.

    The Royal Munster Fusiliers were formed from the amalgamation of two Bengal regiments.

    My Gt Grandfather Hugh Niland enlisted into the 2nd Bombay Regiment of European Infantry in the 1850's (Ireland was a fertile recruiting ground for the Honourable East India Co). Managed to get a copy of his discharge certificate from the India Office in the British Library and found some info about him from the Families in British India Society :


    Entered the Service 1854
    Surname Niland
    Forename(s) Hugh
    Rank or Situation Private 2nd European Light Infantry
    Regimental Number 2461
    Occupation before Enlisting Cooper
    Town and County Dublin, Dublin
    Where first enlisted Dublin
    Date of Attestation 28 November 1854
    Term of enlisted service 10 years
    In what ship arrived from Europe, or Service Entertained Albuera

    1st Bombay Regt became the 2nd Battn RDF, 2nd Bombay became 2nd Battn Durham Light Infantry and 3rd Bombay Regt became 2nd Battn Leinster Regt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    tac foley wrote: »
    I am immensely proud of my grandfather, Private William Victor Collins of 6 Dragoon Guards, who died on 21 June 1917 on the Somme, and also my Great Uncle, George Lord of Wallowa SK, who did the same and survived.

    William's service record is on Ancestry. A bit damaged but readable.

    Any idea what Regt George served with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭wjrobin64


    the line I am looking for was from Tullamore, Offally.

    they Hada man married into the family from portarlington a J.D. Ritchie

    he at one point held the geneaology for my ancestor zora robinett of KIlladerrry , Ireland

    thanks

    bill


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    My Gt Grandfather Hugh Niland enlisted into the 2nd Bombay Regiment of European Infantry in the 1850's (Ireland was a fertile recruiting ground for the Honourable East India Co). .

    Indeed it was. As recorded memorably in song:

    You see the Dublin Fusiliers
    The dirty old bamboozlers
    They went and got the childer, one, two, three.
    They marched them from the Linenhall
    For everyone a cannonball
    And Vickie's going to send them all o'er the sea.
    Monto


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mickey57


    hi
    my grandfather served in the british army i would like to get his service record as there is nobody left alive i could ask, would it be possible to find out. The only information i know is james morton no middle name from dundalk louth he lost his leg in the war.in 1914 he would have been 20.
    i have his date of birth and address at that time,and that's about all.:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    Hi mickey57,is this him on the census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__2/John_Street/578247/ .Looking at the Medal Index Cards on the British National Archives is giving 179 James Morton's as having been awarded medals.If he served in an Irish Regiment then there is only two out of that 179.Ancestry is the best bet to see if a Pension Record exists for him,somebody might be able to help you with that search.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mickey57


    Hi arnhem44
    Yes thats him james age 17:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Lizp


    Hi can someone point me in the right direction I am trying to find out some details of my G G Grandfather Michael Hennessy Born Cashel Co Tippeary 1834
    enlisted Templemore for the 81st regiment on the 3rd of feb 1852. aged 18 years.he served for 21years 16 days, service abroad Malta 2years 7 months
    East Indies 10 years 9 months
    he was awarded indian mutiny medal and medal for long service.
    also served in 113th 8th regiment of front services till 1873.
    he was 39 when he left army.
    army no 3020 H M Royal Hospital Chelsea.
    he married Anne Nolan from co wicklow in dublin in 1866 i have located his marriage details.Anne Nolan had 12 children , by 1911 only 2 were living my grandfather James and his
    Brother Mathew, an elder brother Thomas Born co wexford died in 1907 aged 27. i wondering what happened to the other nine siblings, where they were born, etc. any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    The army records you require would be Victorian records,you may benefit putting up a similar thread in the Genealogy section of the History and Heritage Forum for ways to find the other siblings you mention http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1288


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Lizp


    Hi Arnhem44, Thank you for responding so quickly , will do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Lizp


    Hi , just like tell you i found Michael Hennessy's Army records on line.
    thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction . discovered that he transferred regiments to serve with his older Brother ! :D


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