my team for england game

phog

Reloc8 wrote: »

Yep I'd drop O'Gara in both scenarios; I personally don't think he's played well in two games now (and this is a five game tournament) and sometimes its just time for a change. I strongly feel if we have a repeat performance in Twickenham of what happened in Paris we'll get badly beaten up.

Do you think we lost in Paris because ROG was the No10?

twinytwo

phog wrote: »

Do you think we lost in Paris because ROG was the No10?

dont know bout him.. but i would have though we lost due to a collective brain fart

thomond2006

We lost because:

1. Nothing went our way i.e. bounce for D'Arcy.
2. We were beaten up by a more physical pack.
3. The ruck ball was slow and TOL had a poor game. Therefore our backline was enveloped by the French defence.
4. The shooter defensive system failed (BOD getting an early knock didn't help matters mind).
5. Earls moving to fullback and D'Arcy moving to the wing because of Kearney's injury.
6. French dominance in the scrum.
7. Indiscipline - Healy's yellow card and Flannery's "Keane on Haaland" moment cost us dear.
8. The French were highly motivated and Ireland became rattled, especially in the second half.
9. Too many unforced errors from Ireland.
10. In hindsight, Paddy Wallace as the outside back replacement was a bad call.

If the French lineout had functioned, one could say that Ireland were completely outplayed in every facet of play.

buck65

phog wrote: »

Do you think we lost in Paris because ROG was the No10?

O Gara was good against Italy and was on the back foot against France. How someone can come up with a comment that O Gara hasn't been good in the last 2 games is beyond me.
I would start Sexton personally just because he will be there anyway for next year and does need a start or two this campaign and a hostile Twickenham would be a good test.
Court should start too, if he's good enough to come on he's good enough to start. O Leary has to be persevered with. The rest the same. Full back not sure.

buck65

buck65 wrote: »

O Gara was good against Italy and was on the back foot against France. How someone can come up with a comment that O Gara hasn't been good in the last 2 games is beyond me.
I would start Sexton personally just because he will be there anyway for next year and does need a start or two this campaign and a hostile Twickenham would be a good test.
Court should start too, if he's good enough to come on he's good enough to start. O Leary has to be persevered with. The rest the same. Full back not sure.

Agree with most but not this. O'Leary should be dropped and Boss, Reddan or Stringer brought in. That kind of mediocrity cant be rewarded. We dont need a 'physical' scrumhalf, we need someone who can feed O'Gara (or Sexton) quick ball to unleash the backs. How many times was TOL standing over the ball trying to figure out what to do?

thomond2006

buck65 wrote: »

O Gara was good against Italy and was on the back foot against France. How someone can come up with a comment that O Gara hasn't been good in the last 2 games is beyond me.
I would start Sexton personally just because he will be there anyway for next year and does need a start or two this campaign and a hostile Twickenham would be a good test.
Court should start too, if he's good enough to come on he's good enough to start. O Leary has to be persevered with. The rest the same. Full back not sure.

Kidney should make changes where there is a viable alternative. Therefore, the half backs should be changed.

If Kidney wants to be true to his "squad building", which was his reason for bringing in Earls for Trimble, then O'Leary should definitely go and an alternative (of which they are many) brought in.

Fullback is a real banana skin now. Earls doesn't have the defensive capabilities nor the ice cool temperment (that might be harsh on him) to play fullback imo. If Murphy can prove his fitness, then he comes straight in. Otherwise, Bowe is the man for the job.

Is Court a viable alternative to Hayes? Maybe he is. I can't Kidney dropping Hayes though.

The management will make changes but I'll be shocked if there is more than 4-5 switches that aren't enforced.

stephen_n

buck65 wrote: »

O Gara was good against Italy and was on the back foot against France. How someone can come up with a comment that O Gara hasn't been good in the last 2 games is beyond me.
I would start Sexton personally just because he will be there anyway for next year and does need a start or two this campaign and a hostile Twickenham would be a good test.
Court should start too, if he's good enough to come on he's good enough to start. O Leary has to be persevered with. The rest the same. Full back not sure.

I wouldn't say O'Gara played badly in either game apart from his defense being badly exposed in the French game but he didn't set the world alight in either game. It's still horses for courses between him and Sexton. Sexton should have been brought on around he 50 min mark in Paris not 70 and I think the same should go for the England game. O'Gara to start Sexton to finish.

As for TOL, think he should be gone but as Boss isn't being considered I wouldn't feel confident in Reddan if the English pack get on top.

God only knows at FB it seems we are a bit thread bare in that dept with Kearney Fitz and Jones all injured. Need someone safe under the high ball as that's the route the English will attack!

premierstone

stephen_n wrote: »

I wouldn't say O'Gara played badly in either game apart from his defense being badly exposed in the French game but he didn't set the world alight in either game. It's still horses for courses between him and Sexton. Sexton should have been brought on around he 50 min mark in Paris not 70 and I think the same should go for the England game. O'Gara to start Sexton to finish.

Agree about making the change earlier but only if Reddan had come on at the same time (seen that neither Boss or Stringer who would both be better options were considered) there isnt an OH in the world would have looked good with TOL last Sat, in the first 20 mins when our forwards were on top ROG was controling the game and pinning the French back, hardly he's fault that the two occasions France got into Irish territory our discipline imploded and we conceded 10 points.

stephen_n

premierstone wrote: »

Agree about making the change earlier but only if Reddan had come on at the same time (seen that neither Boss or Stringer who would both be better options were considered) there isnt an OH in the world would have looked good with TOL last Sat, in the first 20 mins when our forwards were on top ROG was controling the game and pinning the French back, hardly he's fault that the two occasions France got into Irish territory our discipline imploded and we conceded 10 points.

Problem with that is Reddan is no better behind a pack going backwards and has developed that horrible Leinster habit of taking two steps to keep the fringe defence honest but totally slowing down the delivery of the ball.

jackreds

Why do people keep saying Stringer should be in around the team? Boss Reddan and O'Leary are all better, even with O'Leary off his game, he is far too old,his pass has got too slow and too inaccurate. I can't understand why people are considering him for selection.

jackreds

jackreds wrote: »

Why do people keep saying Stringer should be in around the team? Boss Reddan and O'Leary are all better, even with O'Leary off his game, he is far too old,his pass has got too slow and too inaccurate. I can't understand why people are considering him for selection.

Because he does what a scrumhalf should do and just passes the ball.He doesnt stand around like O'Leary for 2 minutes.

In fairness to O'Leary what he does works on the club scene because Munster have an international pack but at international level you cant just smash into people and hope to break them down.

stephen_n

jackreds wrote: »

Why do people keep saying Stringer should be in around the team? Boss Reddan and O'Leary are all better, even with O'Leary off his game, he is far too old,his pass has got too slow and too inaccurate. I can't understand why people are considering him for selection.

Well considering he is the scrum half for the A team it would appear that Kidney doesn't agree with you, as he doesn't agree with most posters here who can see that TOL is a mile off his game!

Podge_irl

I watched the game again (which wasn't pleasant) and at one point in the first 10 minutes are so when Ireland break up to the French 5 metre line and are putting on good pressure TOL walks up to the ruck and then waits for a few seconds before passing the ball 5 feet to a forward standing still. There was quicker ball coming out when some forwards found themselves at scrum half. O'Leary just can not start again.

I don't think we lost the game because of ROG, I don't think we would have won with Carter playing there. That doesn't mean he shouldn't necessarily be changed. Chaning the outhalf is not blaming him for the defeat, it's trying something new. Sexton offers more variety of play.

premierstone

Podge_irl wrote: »

I watched the game again (which wasn't pleasant) and at one point in the first 10 minutes are so when Ireland break up to the French 5 metre line and are putting on good pressure TOL walks up to the ruck and then waits for a few seconds before passing the ball 5 feet to a forward standing still. There was quicker ball coming out when some forwards found themselves at scrum half. O'Leary just can not start again.

I havent watched it again and refuse to! But the one that really stuck in my mind was the phase right before halftime where the ball was at the base of the ruck ready to be sprayed and he just stood there looking at it, it was hideous.

Trojan

thomond2006 wrote: »

10. In hindsight, Paddy Wallace as the outside back replacement was a bad call.

Hindsight? I distinctly recall a lot of foresight regarding that selection on this forum and elsewhere.

danthefan

Trojan wrote: »

Hindsight? I distinctly recall a lot of foresight regarding that selection on this forum and elsewhere.

+1, it was blantatly obvious the bench selection was a mess. There is just no room in a 22 for Wallace, ROG and Sexton.

Riskymove

Trojan wrote: »

Hindsight? I distinctly recall a lot of foresight regarding that selection on this forum and elsewhere.

well with Trimble and Horgan apparantly not fully fit, there was not too much in the way of experienced alternatives

in addition losing Kearney was the worst possible injury as it meant the most re-jigging of positions, notably moving D'Arcy who was actually playing very well in the centre

JustinDee

Trojan wrote: »

Hindsight? I distinctly recall a lot of foresight regarding that selection on this forum and elsewhere.

Stopped clocks etc

Riskymove

danthefan wrote: »

+1, it was blantatly obvious the bench selection was a mess. There is just no room in a 22 for Wallace, ROG and Sexton.

yeah there was discussion about dropping sexton from the bench altogether to allow for something like Wallace and Trimble (or Horgan), who together could cover the out half and back 5. In the end it seems niether were fit enough in any event

without a more versatile back (say an earls type) on the bench it is difficult to cover all options with only 3 backs on the bench

Panda Moanium

Podge_irl wrote: »

I watched the game again (which wasn't pleasant) and at one point in the first 10 minutes are so when Ireland break up to the French 5 metre line and are putting on good pressure TOL walks up to the ruck and then waits for a few seconds before passing the ball 5 feet to a forward standing still. There was quicker ball coming out when some forwards found themselves at scrum half. O'Leary just can not start again.

Totally agree. Every time we started to put an attack together, the momentum was lost and the French had ample time to regroup because of TOL taking an age to get the ball out. He has to be dropped on that basis alone. Boss should start against England with Stringer on the bench as something different to bring on if needed. Heck, even Frank Murphy ahead of TOL at the moment!

PhatPiggins

Panda Moanium wrote: »

Totally agree. Every time we started to put an attack together, the momentum was lost and the French had ample time to regroup because of TOL taking an age to get the ball out. He has to be dropped on that basis alone. Boss should start against England with Stringer on the bench as something different to bring on if needed. Heck, even Frank Murphy ahead of TOL at the moment!

I think Boss is a very poor decision maker myself but the other three are playing so badly you might as well have a look at him.

anonymous_joe

PhatPiggins wrote: »

I think Boss is a very poor decision maker myself but the other three are playing so badly you might as well have a look at him.

Sums Boss and Reddan up really.

Reddan played very well when he came on at least.

What annoys me is that scrum-half is one position we've actually got a decent pool of players in, and yet, we still always seem to pick the wrong one(s).

Reddan with Boss on the bench would be a fair reflection of form at the moment, or Boss/Reddan.

Either way, O'Leary needs to miss at least a game. He's been muck twice now. It's not fair on him or us to keep him playing.

crisco10

Podge_irl wrote: »

I watched the game again (which wasn't pleasant) and at one point in the first 10 minutes are so when Ireland break up to the French 5 metre line and are putting on good pressure TOL walks up to the ruck and then waits for a few seconds before passing the ball 5 feet to a forward standing still. There was quicker ball coming out when some forwards found themselves at scrum half. O'Leary just can not start again.

I don't think we lost the game because of ROG, I don't think we would have won with Carter playing there. That doesn't mean he shouldn't necessarily be changed. Chaning the outhalf is not blaming him for the defeat, it's trying something new. Sexton offers more variety of play.

It was ridiclous at one point. TOL picked up a knock so Fla was playing scrum half for about 3 succesive phases and we got really quick ball flung out. Gained good ground too!

crisco10

crisco10 wrote: »

It was ridiclous at one point. TOL picked up a knock so Fla was playing scrum half for about 3 succesive phases and we got really quick ball flung out. Gained good ground too!

I noticed that as well. He has a bullet of a pass on him.

Marto10

id have:

15.Duffy - (Not many agree, but he has be playing well and a good fb)
14.Bowe - (Playing super on the wing)
13.O'Driscoll -(obviously)
12.D'arcy -(obviously)
11.Trimble -(needs a good run out, italy was not much of a challange, needs a big game tho)
10.Sexton - (defo deserves this chance)
9.Boss - (TOL needsto stop box kicking, Reddan is a contender, boss in good form)
8.Heaslip - (playing very well atm)
7.Wallace -(no other 7 near him really)
6.Ferris - (work rate at the break down is immense and good tackle rate)
5.O'Connell - (obviously)
4.Cullen - (played well in the last 2 games, deserves to start)
3.Hayes - (have to let him reach 100 caps)
2.Best - (Jerry out)
1.Healy -(playing well)

16.Cronin - (better than the fogratys)
17.Ross - (cover for hayes)
18.DOL - (Experience vital, cullen better atm)
19.Sean O'Brienc-(Still not sure about this one)
20.TOL/Stringer - (experience is vital as a replacement)
21.ROG - (same as above)
22.Earls - (Impact sub and can cover most positions not like p.wallace

Toga Stroll

1.Healy
2.Cronin
3.Hayes
4.Donnacha Ryan
5.O'Connell
6.Ferris
7.Sean O'Brien
8.Heaslip
9.Reddan
10.Sexton
11.Trimble
12.D'arcy
13.O'driscoll
14.Bowe
15.Earls

16.Best 17.Court 18.Cullen 19.Wallace 20.O,Leary 21. Ian Whitten 22.Duffy

Time to forget about this years championship. We need to start building for next years WC. We have a core base of players but we need to establish who can do what in a test match situation because who knows what would happen if a few of the older players picked up bad injuries thats why mix experience and youth here and then whole scale changes for Scotland and Wales. France wont be stopped this year if they can put in a reasonable performance in Cardiff and who actually cares about the triple crown?

thomond2006

With D Ryan and SOB out:

Healy
Cronin
Hayes (100 caps, Woo! :pac:)
Cullen
POC
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip
Reddan
Sexton
Earls
D'Arcy
BOD
Bowe
Murphy

Best
Court
DOC
Henry
Boss / Stringer
ROG
Trimble / Horgan

Judgement Day

Thomond - agree 100% - but no need for and Boss or Trimble.

Risteard

thomond2006 wrote: »

With D Ryan and SOB out:

Healy
Cronin
Hayes (100 caps, Woo! :pac:)
Cullen
POC
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip
Reddan
Sexton
Earls
D'Arcy
BOD
Bowe
Murphy

Best
Court
Casey (Christ Almighty if he doesn't get a shot, I'll go mad)
Henry
Boss / Stringer
ROG
Trimble / Horgan

Better get the straitjacket ready, he's not in the squad.

I'd have:

1.Healy
2.Best
3.Hayes
4.Cullen
5.POC
6.Ferris
7.Wallace
8.Heaslip
9.Reddan
10.Sexton
11.Earls
12.D'arcy
13.Bod
14.Bowe
15.Murphy

16.Cronin
17.Court
18.DOC
19.Jennings
20.TOL
21.ROG
22.Trimble

Panda Moanium

From the RTE website a 32 man squad has been announced ahead of Twickenham.

Ireland squad: R Best, T Bowe, T Buckley, T Court, S Cronin, L Cullen, G D'Arcy, G Duffy, K Earls, S Ferris, J Hayes, C Henry, C Healy, J Heaslip, M Horan, S Horgan, D Hurley, S Jennings, K McLaughlin, J Murphy, G Murphy, D O'Callaghan, B O'Driscoll, P O'Connell, R O'Gara, T O'Leary, E Reddan, J Sexton, A Trimble, D Tuohy, D Wallace, P Wallace.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/sixnations/2010/0221/ireland.html

No Boss or Stringer so TOL or Reddan for scrum-half it would seem...

FridaysWell

Forwards/Fat people
1: HEALY (BEAST)
2: Cronin
3: Hayes
4: DO'C
5: PO'C
6: Ferris
7: Wallace
8: HEASLIP (BEAST X 3)

Backs/eager wieght lifters
9: Reddan (TO'L is not a good scrummie anymore, he needs to pull a Peter Stringer)
10: Sexton/O'Gara/Kyle Tonneti (one of them will do)
11: Bowe - (Tell Earls to grow up)
12: D'Arcy
13: BO'D (at your local o2 store)
14: Horgan (just for this match)
15. Geordan Murphy

16: Best
17: Court
18: Gissing
19: SO'B
20: Strinnnnggggggs
21: Paddy Wallace/Ulsterman here
22: Andrew Conway (Seriously, best way to blood him, this ain't no joke, lets pull an Australia Johnny O'Connor on this one, trust me)

thomond2006

Risteard wrote: »

Better get the straitjacket ready, he's not in the squad.

I forgot about DOC when I posted, so no problems there.

irishbucsfan

I'd have

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Hayes
4. Cullen
5. POC
6. Ferris
7. Wallace (or Jennings, either way I'd be happy)
8. Heaslip
9. Reddan
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. D'arcy
13. Drico
14. Bowe
15. Murphy

16. Cronin
17. Court
18. DOC
19. Henry (/Wallace in the unlikely event he doesn't start)
20. TOL
21. Wallace
22. Earls

The reason I'm dropping ROG completely is only because Wallace covers 12 off the bench, and he's shown ability there recently.

siltirocker

FridaysWell wrote: »

Forwards/Fat people
1: HEALY (BEAST)
2: Cronin
3: Hayes
4: DO'C
5: PO'C
6: Ferris
7: Wallace
8: HEASLIP (BEAST X 3)

Backs/eager wieght lifters
9: Reddan (TO'L is not a good scrummie anymore, he needs to pull a Peter Stringer)
10: Sexton/O'Gara/Kyle Tonneti (one of them will do)
11: Bowe - (Tell Earls to grow up)
12: D'Arcy
13: BO'D (at your local o2 store)
14: Horgan (just for this match)
15. Geordan Murphy

16: Best
17: Court
18: Gissing
19: SO'B
20: Strinnnnggggggs
21: Paddy Wallace/Ulsterman here
22: Andrew Conway (Seriously, best way to blood him, this ain't no joke, lets pull an Australia Johnny O'Connor on this one, trust me)

C'mon now. Sure he's as old as O'Connor and Keatley and is not in the running.

And Ben Gissing??? Isn't he playing first division in Italy or something like that. :rolleyes:

FridaysWell

siltirocker wrote: »

C'mon now. Sure he's as old as O'Connor and Keatley and is not in the running.

And Ben Gissing??? Isn't he playing first division in Italy or something like that. :rolleyes:

Tonetti wants it much more then those two anyway. Hes a big young guy and has alot of skills. He would get in there and do the job, thats it. No fancy stuff, just in there, get his backline moving, kick well and he will definitly tackle well. Again, what a way to blood a player. We don't need the 2010 6Nations! We need the world cup, and a big bench. Let him or Sexton start...

Gissing will bring that 'I'm an underdong/left out/no free Ireland gear/loner' factor to the team. He's a fine player and good lineout operator, which is what we need coming off the bench. A simple player, thats what you need.

irishbucsfan

FridaysWell wrote: »

Tonetti wants it much more then those two anyway. Hes a big young guy and has alot of skills. He would get in there and do the job, thats it. No fancy stuff, just in there, get his backline moving, kick well and he will definitly tackle well. Again, what a way to blood a player. We don't need the 2010 6Nations! We need the world cup, and a big bench. Let him or Sexton start...

Gissing will bring that 'I'm an underdong/left out/no free Ireland gear/loner' factor to the team. He's a fine player and good lineout operator, which is what we need coming off the bench. A simple player, thats what you need.

:pac:

dentaku

Personally...

15 Geordan Murphy (coz f@*k you eddie osullivan!!)
14 Shane Horgan (I used to hate him, but he's got wonderful hands)
13 Me (coz it's my team and I'm savage)
12 Simon Morrissey (he's savage too)
11 BOD (have to fit him in somewhere)
10 Sexton (because he's better than rog at everything)
9 Redden (see below)

8 Heaslip (no reason needed)
7 Wallace (so no one can say I'm biased against Munster)
6 Ferris (BOSH!!!)
5 Bob Casey (coz he deserves it)
4 Leo Cullen (coz he's unbelievably ugly)
3 John "the dairy cow" Hayes (so he can get interviewed after the match, I bet he sounds like peewee herman)
2 Henry Bourke (what a legend!)
1 Healy (ppfffff)

16 Ross (because I don't know anything about the front row)
17 Best (he's the only other hooker I know of)
18 POC (a spent force but jaysus, can you imagine devon toner playing?)
19 Kev Mclaughlin (an enchanting baritone)
20 Boss (i hate looking at TOL's face and PS should just go away)
21 Cathal Marsh (he's the next Conor Sharpe)
22 Conway (can't be any worse than Earls)

nothing too controversial really...

siltirocker

FridaysWell wrote: »

Tonetti wants it much more then those two anyway. Hes a big young guy and has alot of skills. He would get in there and do the job, thats it. No fancy stuff, just in there, get his backline moving, kick well and he will definitly tackle well. Again, what a way to blood a player. We don't need the 2010 6Nations! We need the world cup, and a big bench. Let him or Sexton start...

Gissing will bring that 'I'm an underdong/left out/no free Ireland gear/loner' factor to the team. He's a fine player and good lineout operator, which is what we need coming off the bench. A simple player, thats what you need.

What? That's not true, Keatley made the move out of his safety net of Leinster to Connacht to get first team experience and earn international caps. That's wanting it. How is sitting on the bench for Leinster 'A' till you're 23/24 "wanting it more". Keatley's less than a month older than Tonetti and is capped.

Im assuming Gissing is a joke. A 36 year old J1 amatuer? Bob Casey would tick the boxes you highlighted for Gissing.

FridaysWell

siltirocker wrote: »

What? That's not true, Keatley made the move out of his safety net of Leinster to Connacht to get first team experience and earn international caps. That's wanting it. How is sitting on the bench for Leinster 'A' till you're 23/24 "wanting it more". Keatley's less than a month older than Tonetti and is capped.

Im assuming Gissing is a joke. A 36 year old J1 amatuer? Bob Casey would tick the boxes you highlighted for Gissing.

Tonetti is smart. Thats the differnece. He's pulling of of those sly ones.
Stay at Leinster. Get paid well, live in the city he grew up in, gain a little experience and BAM you'll see Tonetti on the first team in a few years. He's slowly working up that line. He is a versitile back which is what Ireland kinda need. He's a fine wine in the making, not Lidl grape juice (which is delicious but has too many languages for the ingredients, overcomplicating things, like Keatleys kicking style) Trust me...

Gissing is like your average Joe except hes got good fitness. Give that green jersey and you'll see a man play a fine game. 1 cap wonder. Simple job. And Bob Casey is a computer simulation. Never mind him, but being honest I would have him in front of even DO'C, just this time give Gissing a go.

thomond2006

FridaysWell wrote: »

Tonetti wants it much more then those two anyway. Hes a big young guy and has alot of skills. He would get in there and do the job, thats it. No fancy stuff, just in there, get his backline moving, kick well and he will definitly tackle well. Again, what a way to blood a player. We don't need the 2010 6Nations! We need the world cup, and a big bench. Let him or Sexton start...

Gissing will bring that 'I'm an underdong/left out/no free Ireland gear/loner' factor to the team. He's a fine player and good lineout operator, which is what we need coming off the bench. A simple player, thats what you need.

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/ojSCGs3jvX1wK0CXhedYU9R-7r*mDV-wz0AyIBarCAdAnFCOcLVvQI3LTpWEPtHHFM4-KDENT7bm*FsjaCvcm46nqvGtc2T7/omgroflface.jpg

Pass over here whatever it is you're smokin'.....

siltirocker

FridaysWell wrote: »

Tonetti is smart. Thats the differnece. He's pulling of of those sly ones.
Stay at Leinster. Get paid well, live in the city he grew up in, gain a little experience and BAM you'll see Tonetti on the first team in a few years. He's slowly working up that line. He is a versitile back which is what Ireland kinda need. He's a fine wine in the making, not Lidl grape juice (which is delicious but has too many languages for the ingredients, overcomplicating things, like Keatleys kicking style) Trust me...

Gissing is like your average Joe except hes got good fitness. Give that green jersey and you'll see a man play a fine game. 1 cap wonder. Simple job. And Bob Casey is a computer simulation. Never mind him, but being honest I would have him in front of even DO'C, just this time give Gissing a go.

FridaysWell

thomond2006 wrote: »

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/ojSCGs3jvX1wK0CXhedYU9R-7r*mDV-wz0AyIBarCAdAnFCOcLVvQI3LTpWEPtHHFM4-KDENT7bm*FsjaCvcm46nqvGtc2T7/omgroflface.jpg

Pass over here whatever it is you're smokin'.....

:D
C'mon give them a chance!
Look at test rugby in this way! Its like the Leaving Cert. It looks hard but its easy, even though its not that easy, all you have to do is look on it as being easy and rather then learning, understand the material. Much like test rugby. Just throw a guy thats kinda halfway there into it and BAM the man is a man.

thomond2006

FridaysWell wrote: »

Look at test rugby in this way! Its like the Leaving Cert. It looks hard but its easy, even though its not that easy, all you have to do is look on it as being easy and rather then learning, understand the material. Much like test rugby. Just throw a guy thats kinda halfway there into it and BAM the man is a man.

Ha?

FridaysWell

thomond2006 wrote: »

Ha?

It 'tis like the Leaving! Its all one big hype for something that kind of petters out...
Like it is almost predictable.

If you were to tell the St.Marys 2nd XV that they were going to be playing the All Blacks in two years time, they would prepare for it. And they would play the match and get beaten. But not by much. Get me?>

WeeBushy

dentaku wrote: »

12 Simon Morrissey (he's savage too)

An interesting team...

Is that Simon Morrissey who played OH for Gonzaga and is playing centre for Blackrock RFC now?

thomond2006

WeeBushy wrote: »

An interesting team...

Understatement is not the word.

chupacabra

Tonetti will graduate from the academy this year and probably go to England straight away. There is no room for him in the Leinster squad anywhere for at least another 2 years and to be honest he is rather ordinary. Failing a move to England/Wales/France he will probably just end up hanging around the AIL with Blackrock.

themont85

chupacabra wrote: »

Tonetti will graduate from the academy this year and probably go to England straight away. There is no room for him in the Leinster squad anywhere for at least another 2 years and to be honest he is rather ordinary. Failing a move to England/Wales/France he will probably just end up hanging around the AIL with Blackrock.

With McKinley, Madigan and a host of others coming through he will struggle o ever get at out half. He's not good enough for centre tbh. Great AIL player though..

smurphy29

FridaysWell you have made my morning. Hilarious stuff. The fact that people are biting makes it even funnier. Well done.

I think we're looking at Geordan Murphy starting at 15 now, with Earls and Bowe on the wings. The desperately unlucky Shaggy could miss out on the 22 again, with Trimble likely to be on the bench. My gut feeling is that Deccie will change one of the halves - probably bringing in Sexton to play with O'Leary. The pack will stay the same, but with Best starting at hooker.

PhatPiggins

smurphy29 wrote: »

FridaysWell you have made my morning. Hilarious stuff. The fact that people are biting makes it even funnier. Well done.

I think we're looking at Geordan Murphy starting at 15 now, with Earls and Bowe on the wings. The desperately unlucky Shaggy could miss out on the 22 again, with Trimble likely to be on the bench. My gut feeling is that Deccie will change one of the halves - probably bringing in Sexton to play with O'Leary. The pack will stay the same, but with Best starting at hooker.

I thought the guy who named himself in his own team was even funnier. Glad to see a few lighter notes on this sometimes over serious forum.