UFC 110 Nogueira v Velasquez Predictions

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

my main bets is velasq+krystop sozy...
accum velasq kryst silva sotirop reljic

and a small double bisb on poinst and velas on points 5/2+9/4

think if velasq wins itll be on points so thats looks value to me.
better men have tried and failed to finish nog

OUCH!

guess i underestimated dolloway bigtime

mailburner

Even most of the experts on sherdog were going for nogeira which
surprised me and probably put me off putting more on velasquez
than i had originally intended.
cant wait to see who cain gets next......

Devastator

mailburner wrote: »

Reljic cost me a nice bit for the accum sadly
the rest went quite well
as for cain velasquez...wow! wasnt expecting that
some price on sotiroupolous for points tho

My 3 main bets were method victory...which I got wrong but picked the winners :rolleyes:


Anyway, had a football treble yesterday and another today so Im about £90 up for w'end:)

rovert

mailburner wrote: »

Even most of the experts on sherdog were going for nogeira which
surprised me and probably put me off putting more on velasquez
than i had originally intended.
cant wait to see who cain gets next......

It shouldnt surprise you the editoral line is PRIDE fighter nuthugging typically.

callaway92

dissapointed for Bisping..had high hopes for him going into the fight

Kazooie

Any news on Ben Fosters knee? Nice sub but looked nasty for the poor guy.

scudzilla

My take on the fights

Nog v Cain - I had Nog to win this, but only just, what a KO, surely throwing Cain to the top of the HW pile now, made it look so easy.

Silva v Bisping - Before the decision i really couldn't make my mind up, i think that the strong finishes at end of rounds 2 & 3 gave Silva the judges win, if there had been an extra 10 seconds o either of thos rounds then Silva would have finished it, the huge sigh of relief on Bispings face at the end of Round 2 said it all.
I also thought that Wandy seemed to be looking for the haymaker KO punch too much, a more accomplished puncher than Bisping would have made him pay dearly.

Stevenson v Storidopolous (whatever) Awesome display from George, i'm thinking that this confirms that Joe is now the LW Gatekeeper.

CroCop wasn't convincing at all, yeah he won, but the guy was a very low quality fighter and the win didn't answer any questions on CroCop, to me it even threw more questions in there.

Bader had a great win, Jardine is a pretty difficult opponent.

jayteecork

I just love watching Keith Jardine get his ass handed to him. Does this make me a bad person?
He has this "psycho tough guy/mentalist" thing going on and I love seeing him get his ass kicked.

Really hope Cain gets a shot off Lesnar now.

edit: Just noticed the next Lesnar bout is the winner of the Mir/Carwin bout. hard to believe Mir could be getting another shot off Lesnar so soon.

Devastator

Kazooie wrote: »

Any news on Ben Fosters knee?

As far as I know he was dropped by man utd cause he's crap.....now as far as Brain Foster goes....well I dunno, but it looked very nasty the way it bent last night :eek:

Hope no serious damage.

jayteecork wrote: »

I just love watching Keith Jardine get his ass handed to him. Does this make me a bad person?
He has this "psycho tough guy/mentalist" thing going on and I love seeing him get his ass kicked.

Really hope Cain gets a shot off Lesnar now.

edit: Just noticed the next Lesnar bout is the winner of the Mir/Carwin bout. hard to believe Mir could be getting another shot off Lesnar so soon.

I get bit tired of Jardine, was happy to see Bader beat him last night.


Why should Mir not get the chance if he beats Carwin? Lesnar got another shot at Mir having only fought once since Mir beat him, so IF Mir wins against Carwin he will have fought and won twice. I think Velasquez will have another fight then taken on winner of Lesnar V Mir/Carwin. Although did read today IF Mir or Carwin get injured or can not fight by mid summer(for whatever reason) then Cain will get a chance

scudzilla

jayteecork wrote: »

I just love watching Keith Jardine get his ass handed to him. Does this make me a bad person?
He has this "psycho tough guy/mentalist" thing going on and I love seeing him get his ass kicked.

Really hope Cain gets a shot off Lesnar now.

edit: Just noticed the next Lesnar bout is the winner of the Mir/Carwin bout. hard to believe Mir could be getting another shot off Lesnar so soon.

Cain has been put on standby for a shot at Lesnar, IF Mir or Carwin are not fit to fight Lesnar pretty soon then Cain will get the first shot, pretty likely to happen seeing the medical suspensions that the New Jersey board will probably hand out

scudzilla

Devastator wrote: »

As far as I know he was dropped by man utd cause he's crap.....now as far as Brain Foster goes....well I dunno, but it looked very nasty the way it bent last night :eek:

Seeing as we're having a spelling contest who's Brain Foster? :P

Devastator

scudzilla wrote: »

Seeing as we're having a spelling contest who's Brain Foster? :P

BrIan's smarter twin, also a cousin of Ben

callaway92

Devastator wrote: »

As far as I know he was dropped by man utd cause he's crap.....now as far as Brain Foster goes....well I dunno, but it looked very nasty the way it bent last night :eek:

Hope no serious damage.



I get bit tired of Jardine, was happy to see Bader beat him last night.


Why should Mir not get the chance if he beats Carwin? Lesnar got another shot at Mir having only fought once since Mir beat him, so IF Mir wins against Carwin he will have fought and won twice. I think Velasquez will have another fight then taken on winner of Lesnar V Mir/Carwin. Although did read today IF Mir or Carwin get injured or can not fight by mid summer(for whatever reason) then Cain will get a chance

Who is this Brain Foster you speak of??

Michael Cro Cop had a good win though

Kazooie

Lol. He won't be taking anymore kickouts by the looks of it.

AARRRGH

This might be interesting to some of you...

I watched UFC 110 with Brazilian commentary (I don't speak Portuguese) and it really made me realise how Rogan and Goldberg screw up how you view fights. For example, there was no doubt in my mind Silva won, but I can see many people who I'm assuming watched with the normal commentary on are having a harder time seeing this.

So although I do find Rogan and Goldberg entertaining, I think they actually slightly screw up how you see the fight.

rovert

AARRRGH wrote: »

This might be interesting to some of you...

I watched UFC 110 with Brazilian commentary (I don't speak Portuguese) and it really made me realise how Rogan and Goldberg screw up how you view fights. For example, there was no doubt in my mind Silva won, but I can see many people who I'm assuming watched with the normal commentary on are having a harder time seeing this.

So although I do find Rogan and Goldberg entertaining, I think they actually slightly screw up how you see the fight.

This comes up sometimes from various places, mainly with people watching it with the sound off.

Seifer

AARRRGH wrote: »

This might be interesting to some of you...

I watched UFC 110 with Brazilian commentary (I don't speak Portuguese) and it really made me realise how Rogan and Goldberg screw up how you view fights. For example, there was no doubt in my mind Silva won, but I can see many people who I'm assuming watched with the normal commentary on are having a harder time seeing this.

So although I do find Rogan and Goldberg entertaining, I think they actually slightly screw up how you see the fight.

Did you watch the silva fight again with the R/G commentary?
They weren't particularly biased either way. The reason people thought the Silva/Bisping fight was a close call was because it was a close call.
The first was Bisping's. The second was very tough to call but Silva's plan to push the last 30 seconds of every round seemed to win it for him with the guillotine attempt (which was the result of a Bisping takedown). And then he probably stole the 3rd and the fight with the last flurry.
My overall impression of the fight would be Bisping scoring a lot of takedowns and Silva swinging for the fences; pushing extra hard in the last 30 seconds of each round. The judges could easily have swung the other way on a different night.

Turtyturd

AARRRGH wrote: »

This might be interesting to some of you...

I watched UFC 110 with Brazilian commentary (I don't speak Portuguese) and it really made me realise how Rogan and Goldberg screw up how you view fights. For example, there was no doubt in my mind Silva won, but I can see many people who I'm assuming watched with the normal commentary on are having a harder time seeing this.

So although I do find Rogan and Goldberg entertaining, I think they actually slightly screw up how you see the fight.

Yeah I have noticed Rogan will always get behind certain guys and claim that its a close fight even if they are taking a beating. Even though that is part of their job its easy to the tell fighters Rogan is close with.

I remember disputing the Griffin/Rampage fight with a friend of mine who thought it only seemed like Rampage was robbed because of Rogan's commentary. He suggested watching it back while muted, which made it even more obvious that he was robbed.

sonic.trip

Well it lived up to expectation anyway; very dissapointed in nogueira didn't think Cain would win by ko but shows he's up there at the top now.

Delighted Wandi won, he put on a great show I had it 29-28 wandi.

Said it in my first post that sotorcantspellhisnameopolus woul be a tough competitor but I didn't think he would totally dominate a very good competitor, I thought stevenson was too small for him and couldnt get the punches in, that puts him in a nice position now.

good submission by lytle and CB dollaway looked good too.

ginoginelli

Wanderlei nearly had bisping finished twice. There was no doubt he won rounds 2 and 3 in my mind and defo won the overall fight. Bisping fought well though, and it was close at times - but wanderlei is just on another level. I think he could very well have finished him earlier if he had opted to fight berserker style, instead of so strategically..

Little bit shocked over Nog. I hope he retires now. Cain is a beast btw.

Stiropulous has the most fun groundgame in the ufc. That guys transitions are sick.

Good card overall. Best since ufc 100.

muckwarrior

I think if Carwin beats Mir he should have the next shot at Lesnar as he was next in line anyway and missed out through no fault of his own.

If Mir wins though I think Cain should get the shot first. I'd prefer seeing Lesnar fight someone fresh. It's not like another fight with Mir will be that much different to the first 2, i.e. Lesnar pounding on Mir. Mir hoping to catch a sub.

chopperbyrne

Anyone else think Goldy looked, sounded and acted like he was coked off his face at the start of the show?

sonic.trip

oh and I forgot to say jardine looked ****, what happened "the dean of mean"? I think he's had his day, bader looked good, that's put him up there in the mix now too.

chopperbyrne

sonic.trip wrote: »

oh and I forgot to say jardine looked ****, what happened "the dean of mean"? I think he's had his day, bader looked good, that's put him up there in the mix now too.

Glad Bader changed his nickname to Darth too.

callaway92

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Glad Bader changed his nickname to Darth too.

It was always Darth in his UFC career

Lord Muck

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Glad Bader changed his nickname to Darth too.

what was his nickname before?

ginoginelli

Yea, I always thought it was Darth

Good performance, but Jardine is not really a top guy anymore..

Id like to see Bader and Jones at some stage..

Gerard.C

If Mirko can win his next fight, I'd love to see him and Randy fight

callaway92

Gerard.C wrote: »

If Mirko can win his next fight, I'd love to see him and Randy fight

how about if Mirko beats Rothwell in his next fight (very likely to be UFC 112), Cro Cop vs Nogueira II ??

chopperbyrne

callaway92 wrote: »

It was always Darth in his UFC career

You sure? Could have sworn that at the TUF Finale he used something else which both myself and brother thought was stupid considering he did go ahead and use Vader's theme.

Raze_them_all

Yup it's always been darth, he even used it in the audition tape for tuf, if memory serves it was actually a funny audition tape

Dave!

Brilliant UFC Only getting to watch it now

Cain is a beast, terrific win, hope he pushes on now and beats Lesnar. Won't be an easy one though.

Silva was terrific also, completely steered the fight and as mentioned, could have won it a couple times. Bisping made a couple of takedowns in the first round I think, but wasn't up to much else. Silva's face looks totally different, thought it was just his nose that got fixed :eek:

Mirko was disappointing again. The stand-in guy has some balls taking the fight, but he's absolute pony. A few years ago, Mirko would have destroyed him in the first round, easily.

Mellor

Dave! wrote: »

Silva was terrific also, completely steered the fight and as mentioned, could have won it a couple times. Bisping made a couple of takedowns in the first round I think, but wasn't up to much else. Silva's face looks totally different, thought it was just his nose that got fixed :eek:

He looks a lot different because he dropped 20lbs too.
And I think you are wrong saying that Bisping wasn't up to much. He clearly won the first round. Silva, clearly the third. The second was incredibly close, with Silva edging it.
The close of round flurry has a huge impact on round opinions.

However, a few seconds longer and Bisping ws out

scudzilla

Mellor wrote: »

He looks a lot different because he dropped 20lbs too.
And I think you are wrong saying that Bisping wasn't up to much. He clearly won the first round. Silva, clearly the third. The second was incredibly close, with Silva edging it.
The close of round flurry has a huge impact on round opinions.

However, a few seconds longer and Bisping ws out

So what was the event like live? Did Dana say anything handy at the Q&A?

rovert

Dave! wrote: »

Mirko was disappointing again. The stand-in guy has some balls taking the fight, but he's absolute pony. A few years ago, Mirko would have destroyed him in the first round, easily.

The theory that was floated by some Mirko fans on the net is that he didnt want to kick the stand-in's head off because Mirko respected him for taking the fight at short notice as well as being a fellow Croatian. Not sure if I entirely believe that one.

DeVore

Wow... Cain was leathal. I couldnt see much that wasnt focused and technically excellent. The guy just went to work and made it look like another day at the office. Very impressed.

Bisping was practically out at the end of round 3, so much so that many thought the ref had stopped it in the dying seconds. I dont like Bisping particularly, too much of the "lager lager" in his attitude for my tastes. Someone said he had plenty of takedowns?? He tried for plenty, but I dont think he got more then 3 or 4 and was guillotined in one, badly. For the latter half of the fight, he struggled at the take down game. There's no way he won that fight imho.


DeV.

rovert

DeVore wrote: »

I dont like Bisping particularly, too much of the "lager lager" in his attitude for my tastes.

Personally never got that from him listening to the tonnes of radio shows he has done over the years, in my view it is something which want Bisping to live it to rather than something he actively exhibits.

ginoginelli

rovert wrote: »

in my view it is something which want Bisping to live it to rather than something he actively exhibits.

What?

Seifer

ginoginelli wrote:

What?

I'm going with:

rovert translation wrote:

in my view it is something which they want Bisping to live up to rather than something he actively exhibits.

ginoginelli

ah. That makes a bit more sense!

Thx for the translation!

YouSavedMyLife

Nog getting KO'd like that was saddening. Although he didnt look with it to be honest. I hope he retires after this

Cain on the other hand looked very impressive. Powerful kicks, awesome boxing and his ground game is "apprently" good. Needs to be tested though, hah. The hype is true, he is the full package