Irish Essay.

Les_Rebels123

Hey
I'm writing up an essay for Irish^^ :P
Titled:
"Tabhacht an teaghlaigh I sochaí an lae inniú."

And I was just wondering when I'm done if someone would proof read it.. just so to see it makes sense... and more importantly, tell me if I'm wrong with spelling/grammar as there more than likely will be some error :P

I've written this so far.:
Ceapaim go bhfuil is é teaghlach an rudaí is láidir ag aon duine san domhain mar caitheamar an am mhór lena thuismitheoirí agus bhúr chlann. Thug siad comhairle againnse faoi rudaí atá ceart agus mícheart mar shampla, le do thoil agus go raibh maith agat, ná cuir a lamh ar na cócaireán agus oigheann.
Tabharfaidh siad tacaíocht sinn cosúil le na scrudaithe, tabharfaidh siad muinín sinn roimhe sin na scrudaithe. Tá a lán brú le gach daoine atá ag déanfaidh na scrudú mar triail tiomána, triail feilliúnacht den post, An Teastas Sóisearach ach níos tábhachtaí An Ardteist. Is é an scrúdú níos crua in shaol den aon duine.

If there are any mistakes, could you point them out to me and if there are any other ideas to write about(i have a page of bullet points, but dont think i'll get another page and a half with what i have.)

Thanks So Much In Advance,
Les_Rebels123

dambarude

Ceapaim go bhfuil is é teaghlach an rudaí is láidir ag aon duine san domhain mar caitheamar an am mhór lena thuismitheoirí agus bhúr chlann. Thug siad comhairle againnse faoi rudaí atá ceart agus mícheart mar shampla, le do thoil agus go raibh maith agat, ná cuir a lamh ar na cócaireán agus oigheann.

Ceapaim gurb é an teaghlach an rud is láidre (tábhachtaí?) ag duine ar bith ar domhan, mar caithimid a lán ama lenár dtuismitheoirí agus ár gclann. Tugann siad comhairle dúinne faoi rudaí atá ceart agus mícheart, mar shampla, "le do thoil" agus "go raibh maith agat", agus "ná cuir do lámh ar an gcócaireán" fiú.

Tabharfaidh siad tacaíocht sinn cosúil le na scrudaithe, tabharfaidh siad muinín sinn roimhe sin na scrudaithe. Tá a lán brú le gach daoine atá ag déanfaidh na scrudú mar triail tiomána, triail feilliúnacht den post, An Teastas Sóisearach ach níos tábhachtaí An Ardteist. Is é an scrúdú níos crua in shaol den aon duine.

Tugann siad tacaíocht dúinn nuair a bhíonn scrúdaithe againn, agus braithimid níos fearr mar gheall ar an muinín a spreagann siad ionann. Tá a lán brú ar gach duine atá ag déanamh scrúdaithe cosúil leis an triail tiomána, agallamh (?), an Teastas Sóisearach, ach níos tábhachtaí ná iad sin ar fad, an Ardteist. Is é sin an scrúdú is deacra i saol an duine.

gaeilgebeo

Well corrected by Dambarude! Quite a few mistakes.

I'm just wondering however, are you a higher level or ordinary level student?
If you are ordinary level, the scéal might suit you more so than the aiste? I correct for the SEC every year and sometimes candidates who are weaker at written Irish can gain more marks with the scéal....

Les_Rebels123

Thanks so much

Wow... I really Have ALOT of mistakes.... damn... This is not looking good for me, as I am an Honours Student
it really is putting the level into doubt.... is it just the fact im mixing up tenses and wording it wrong... or is it just a mess as a whole

dambarude

Most of the problems were with prepositions (like le, ag, ar ) and tenses. Most of that piece should be in the Aimsir Láithreach, the present tense, not the Aimsir Chaite(past) or Aimsir Fháistineach(future).

Les_Rebels123

So if I go and really Learn the aimsir laithreach and the prepositions, then, my irish writing ability will get better ?
I've spent far too long at Irish to let it all go down the drain, and take the *easy* way out and drop down.. im not just about to waste 10+years of doing Irish to drop down... So prepositions and aimsir laithreach should hopefully sort me out

I really do appreciate your help dambarude, i feel more comfortable talking about it on here, than that of face to face with the teacher

Les_Rebels123

Would you mind skimming through these three pieces aswell please dambarude; or anyone else that can help me with it
"Tugann siad tacaíocht dúinn nuair a bhímid i dtríoblóid le na gardaí chun a bhímid amuigh lena ár gcairde, nó chun a bhímid I dtrioblóid le na múinteoirí toisc nach bhfuil aon obair bhaile a déanta againnse.

Tugann siad tacaíocht dúinn nuair a rithimid i dtriobloid le cúnamh airgeadais. Nuair a díthimid airgead leis an gcéad charr, leis an árachas an charr, chun na bia a íosaimid, chun na deoch a ólaimid, chun na héadaí atá ar ár ndroim. Agus nuair a rachamar amuigh san domhain mhór, cabhraíonn siad chun tí a cheannofaidh againn.

Tá ár teaghlaigh an-tábhachtach nuair a tháinig sé ar comhairle. Tugann siad comhairle dúinn chun a ní fhéidir aon duine eile againn. Cabhraíonn siad faoi fadbhanna atá san ár shaol mar shampla, “leagaimid amuigh len ár gcairde”, “nó bhrisimid an reacht”. Coinnigh siad laidre againn. Creidfidh siad in ár shaol agus tá fhios agaibh chun a dheanfaimid an rud is ceart. Réitionn siad againn le na roghnú a dheanfaimid, chun cothrom sé an rogha a dheanfaidh siad."

dambarude

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

"Tugann siad tacaíocht dúinn nuair a bhímid i dtríoblóid leis na gardaí nuair a bhímid amuigh lena ár gcairde, nó nuair a bhímid I dtrioblóid le na múinteoirí toisc nach bhfuil aon obair bhaile a déanta againnse.

Tugann siad tacaíocht dúinn nuair a rithimid i dtriobloid le cúnamh airgeadaisbhíonn deacrachtaí airgeadais againn. Nuair a theastaíonn airgead uainn don chéad charr, d'árachas an chairr, don bia a ithimíd, dona deochanna a ólaimid, do na héadaí atá ar ár ndroim. Agus nuair a rachamaid amuigh san domhain mhór, cabhraíonn siad chun tí a cheannofaidh againn.Agus nuair a fhágaimid an teach, agus sinn ar ár mbealach neamhspleách féin, cabhraíonn siad linn ár dteach féin a cheannach.

Tá ár dteaghlaigh an-tábhachtach nuair a tháinig sé ar comhairle. Tugann siad comhairle dúinn chun a ní fhéidir aon duine eile againn. Cabhraíonn siad faoi fadbhanna atá san ár shaol mar shampla, “leagaimid amuigh len ár gcairde”, “nó bhrisimid an reacht”. Coinnigh siad laidre againn. Creidfidh siad in ár shaol agus tá fhios agaibh chun a dheanfaimid an rud is ceart. Réitionn siad againn le na roghnú a dheanfaimid, chun cothrom sé an rogha a dheanfaidh siad."
Dea-chomhairle chiallmhar a thugann ár dteaghlaigh dúinn i gcónaí. Comhairle níos fearr ná aon chomhairle eile. Cabhraíonn siad linn dul i ngleic le fadhbanna an tsaoil-“leagaimid amuigh len ár gcairde”, “nó bhrisimid an reacht”.[I dont' know what Coinnigh siad laidre againn should mean]. Tá muinín acu asainn, agus tuigeann siad go ndéanfaimíd an rogha ceart i gcónaí. [don't really know what the next sentence should be saying]

The poem Subh Milis might be nice to slip into this essay- déan é a ghoogláil.

Les_Rebels123

I'm trying to say by "Coinnigh siad laidre againn. " [They help us keep/remain Strong]

"Réitionn siad againn le na roghnú a dheanfaimid, chun cothrom sé an rogha a dheanfaidh siad." - "Here I'm trying to say that, they agree with whatever we decide,even if its not what they would have chosen..." but having said that, it doesn't have to be linked to house buying... so I guess, its another reason why family are supportive/important!

Again: I see many mistakes, this time it seems to be sentence structure and the prepositions aswell.

How would I integrate Subh Milis into the story? Say that It's an easy poem,has the message that, without family, who would lead us from right and wrong? and instead of taking/eating the jam, the person/poet stopped and thought when the doorhandle would be clean? or the fact that poet expresses sorrow/anger at first, and then shows love for the child, and then sorrow because one day the child("agus an lámh beag - ar iarraidh") will be gone?

Again. Thanks for your help Dambarude

dambarude

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

I'm trying to say by "Coinnigh siad laidre againn. " [They help us keep/remain Strong]

"Réitionn siad againn le na roghnú a dheanfaimid, chun cothrom sé an rogha a dheanfaidh siad." - "Here I'm trying to say that, they agree with whatever we decide,even if its not what they would have chosen..." but having said that, it doesn't have to be linked to house buying... so I guess, its another reason why family are supportive/important!

I think you're doing a bit too much thinking in English- you'd be best to maybe try and keep it simpler, with Irish you are more comfortable with.

Anyway, for the bit where you're trying to say they agree with you I'd say-
Pé rud a dhéanaimid tacaíonn siad linn.

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

the fact that poet expresses sorrow/anger at first, and then shows love for the child, and then sorrow because one day the child("agus an lámh beag - ar iarraidh") will be gone?

This one ^^. Just thought it'd be nice!

Les_Rebels123

thanks for advice on just about everything here
and thanks for the heads up on Subh Milis.... it would have never crossed my mind

also: In the Blink of an eye.... I have two sayings.... i bhfaiteadh na súl; i bpreabadh na súl... are they both spelt correctly yeah ?

dambarude

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

thanks for advice on just about everything here
and thanks for the heads up on Subh Milis.... it would have never crossed my mind

also: In the Blink of an eye.... I have two sayings.... i bhfaiteadh na súl; i bpreabadh na súl... are they both spelt correctly yeah ?

Tá fáilte.

As far as I know they're both spelt correctly.

Les_Rebels123

I know this is worded/ put together badly. Can you please fix it up for me
"toisc go bhfuil a fhios aige(something missing here yeah) lá amháin an paiste imithe "agus an lámh beag – ar iarraidh”
*because the poet knows that one day the child will be gone
thanks

dambarude

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

I know this is worded/ put together badly. Can you please fix it up for me
"toisc go bhfuil a fhios aige(something missing here yeah) lá amháin an paiste imithe "agus an lámh beag – ar iarraidh”
*because the poet knows that one day the child will be gone
thanks

Well what you're trying to say, in parts, is:
1.) Because 2.) he knows that 3.) one day 4.) the child will be gone
Because he knows that one day the child will be gone.

The different parts of the sentence are moved around a bit and become.
1.) Toisc 2.)go bhfuil a fhios aige 4.) go mbeidh an páiste imithe 3.)lá amháin.
Toisc go bhfuil a fhios aige go mbeidh an páiste imithe lá amháin.

Les_Rebels123

Thanks

so would that apply to all things related to a particular time, would come last in the sentence?

dambarude

Les_Rebels123 wrote: »

Thanks

so would that apply to all things related to a particular time, would come last in the sentence?

It depends on the sentence really I suppose. The only way you can get good at that is from reading and listening to Irish- that way you'll pick up on sentence structures.

Mylesie

dambarude wrote: »

Well what you're trying to say, in parts, is:
1.) Because 2.) he knows that 3.) one day 4.) the child will be gone
Because he knows that one day the child will be gone.

The different parts of the sentence are moved around a bit and become.
1.) Toisc 2.)go bhfuil a fhios aige 4.) go mbeidh an páiste imithe 3.)lá amháin.
Toisc go bhfuil a fhios aige go mbeidh an páiste imithe lá amháin.

What courtesy - I am in awe! Wish I had enough Irish to say "Thank you" Having been on boards all over the place your contribution and reaction, must the be the best ever. Thank you again.:):):)