What's with the snobbery?

blorg

tomasrojo wrote: »

Ah, you'd surely wave if you saw someone hauling a guitar in a bikehod cycling a Dawes Horizon?

No, especially not a person like that.

Signal_ rabbit

When I'm out cycling I just want to be loved.

DirkVoodoo

Has the OP replied yet? It's a bit much to come on, make your sweeping statement and never return again. That, to me, is snobbery. At least defend your point or concede defeat.

Sharkface

here ya go

shaungil

Losers, I ignore this thread. Oh wait......

Russman

Love it !!

dario28

blorg wrote: »

I will certainly wave to (for example) a guy on a hybrid in a loose T-Shirt struggling up the Wicklow Gap.

hmmmm chances of him waving back are slim cause he will be struggling and prob needs both hands on the bar, now, have you factored this into your wave or will it ruin your day if he doesnt reciprocate your wave as illustrated by this senario there are many caveats to a wave and returner of a said wave....

Riskymove

tunney wrote: »

In all honesty there is not enough snobbery on this board. Far too many things have been tolerated and allowed. I blame the mods.

I agree......you Peasant!

Lumen

Sharkface will, unfortunately, not be in a position to respond again to this thread for some time.

blorg

dario28 wrote: »

hmmmm chances of him waving back are slim cause he will be struggling and prob needs both hands on the bar, now, have you factored this into your wave or will it ruin your day if he doesnt reciprocate your wave as illustrated by this senario there are many caveats to a wave and returner of a said wave....

I have actually done similar on many climbs and it always seems to be appreciated by those who are struggling!

projectmayhem

tbh if a lycra-clad "athlete" cyclist waved at me while on my commute I would assume he/she was coming onto me.

...and then it's a matter of how desperate I am that will guide my judgement on whether or not to respond

madred006

Sharkface wrote: »

Don't normally post on the net but regularly check out cycling forums and the like to see if there's anything of interest. To be honest the tone I find, particularly on here, is that of closet snobbery, In fact at times I can sometimes sense the envy and resentment of other roadies on 'lesser' bikes. I find it all a bit dispiriting and potentially off putting to cycling debutantes. .:mad:

well ill add my tupence worth I was new here too about 6 or seven months ago,and began reading the posts on here ,and I have found them to be great sources of infromation and some very humerous .But alas im not an expert but have my trek on order (2 weeks roll on )and know very little about road racing or cycling as im from laois and there is no club local to me but when i ask a question it has always been answered promptly and in a knowledgeble manner .

Paparazzo

abcdggs wrote: »

23. One shall NEVER, under any circumstances, acknowledge the presence of a cyclist riding a bike costing less than 2000€ in ANY public place. This may be severely detrimental to one’s image. If such a situation cannot be helped, it is CRITICAL that the Euro Cyclist regard his “acquaintance” with a patrician mixture of disdain and SEVERE condescension.

God don't you know your euro rules, ptsch...

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I wonder about the fragile little petals that seem to be out on the roads. Are people really so upset because some random person doesn't stop, turn around, follow them up the road before saying "Hi, I saw you wave at me and just wanted to return the greeting. I know that some people are far too concerned with their own cycling to be worried about all the other people out and how sensitive we all really are under this thin veil of lycra and chamois cream, but not me".

Come on!

Canis Lupus wrote: »

lol.... You're on a hybrid you're just a commuter.

You're on the Cannondale and you're someone who potentially is into cycling.

It's hardly rocket science really.

petethedrummer wrote: »

As an innocent country boy standing at the gate of my secondary school in Dundalk I said hello to an old woman who walked passed. All the townies laughed and asked why I said hello to someone I didn't know.

I knew I was going to have to harden up to survive in this concrete jungle so I punched her in the face the following day.

I quoted a few pathetic replies that are typical among the cycling fraternity. While obviously not compulsory for every cyclist to chat to every other cyclist, the OP made the point that it seems much easier chat to someone when you're riding an expensive bike.
I also ride a motorcycle, and almost every biker stops when they see another biker stopped at the side of the road, they always give a wave as they go past each other in opposite directions and they always stop and have a few words to say to each other if they're parked beside each other. We're vunerable road users and look out for each other. Before any smart comments about talking to every pedesterian just because you also happen to be a ped, this is different, this is costs nothind, and when you're among fast moving cars, trucks and buses, knowing you have a few friends out there is a good thing. Everyone hates cyclists on the roads, and to be honest, when I start cycling I hated them even more. There's no cameradery at all, every road user is an enemy if they're on a bike or not. It's a militant attitude and unless you're on an expensive bike you're on you're on your own.
Now I can get from A to B without any pity or help from anyone else! But cyclists seem to be the one road users that no one likes, even themselves.
BTW, I am generalising, on my commute there's some dead sound guys, but very few.

buffalo

I think most of those "pathetic replies" were typed with the author's tongue firmly in their cheek.

DirkVoodoo

EDIT: Bah, I just can't be bothered listening to trolls anymore!

abcdggs

the fact that you can't see the camaraderie here, namely each post you quoted, makes me think that you've missed the point here.
1st: posted by the OP


2nd: I'd much rather people wouldn't be so sensitive, at the end of the day this is all just 01101111 01101110 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01111010 01100101 01110010 01101111 01110011

DirkVoodoo

I just find it odd, I mean I have no interest on going onto a forum I don't have an interest in or know nothing about (obvious from his post) and make inflammatory remarks. Why? It's kind of sad. I couldn't be arsed going onto motors and complaining about drivers, or gambling and complaining about the evils of gambling and how gamblers probably hate themselves.

At least if you are going to make a stab at it, make some sense. I'm militant and I hate myself? There are times I've wanted to go up and knock on someone's window, but I normally wait for the moment to pass. As for these biker love ins on the side of the road, I haven't seen bikers waving at each other, chatting at the lights, pulling over at the side of the road.

You don't cycle, why are you so concerned with cyclist snobbery on this forum??? Nothing better to be doing??

sy

Lumen wrote: »

Sharkface will, unfortunately, not be in a position to respond again to this thread for some time.

Lumen

Paparazzo wrote: »

BTW, I am generalising, on my commute there's some dead sound guys, but very few.

Your insistence that everyone conforms to your definition of friendly cameraderie is not very friendly, ironically.

Can you just not live and let live?

Signal_ rabbit

I don't think some people recognise humour when they see it and rather than spitting out the dummy should take it for what it is.

P.s I ride a level entry Trek 1000........ would I get a wave....?

..............I've upgraded the wheels, does that help?

dub_skav

Paparazzo wrote: »

I quoted a few pathetic replies that are typical among the cycling fraternity. While obviously not compulsory for every cyclist to chat to every other cyclist, the OP made the point that it seems much easier chat to someone when you're riding an expensive bike.
I also ride a motorcycle, and almost every biker stops when they see another biker stopped at the side of the road, they always give a wave as they go past each other in opposite directions and they always stop and have a few words to say to each other if they're parked beside each other. We're vunerable road users and look out for each other. Before any smart comments about talking to every pedesterian just because you also happen to be a ped, this is different, this is costs nothind, and when you're among fast moving cars, trucks and buses, knowing you have a few friends out there is a good thing. Everyone hates cyclists on the roads, and to be honest, when I start cycling I hated them even more. There's no cameradery at all, every road user is an enemy if they're on a bike or not. It's a militant attitude and unless you're on an expensive bike you're on you're on your own.
Now I can get from A to B without any pity or help from anyone else! But cyclists seem to be the one road users that no one likes, even themselves.
BTW, I am generalising, on my commute there's some dead sound guys, but very few.

all bikers are friendly to eachother, hmmm how friendly are you to vespa riders? Had a vespa 125 myself and never saw this friendly attitude. How about people on mopeds? All just different classes of motorbike after all

Mental_Legend

Hang on, can somebody explain these "rules" to me? I cycle a lot, I don't wear or own any lycra, I just wear whatever I happen to be wearing when I decide to go out on the bike. I live in a somewhat rural area on the outskirts of a small town. On my bike journey, I go through a small country lane that is hardly wide enough for two cars to pass each other in before I come into the town. On that small lane, I wave at pretty much every car that passes. Am I suddenly perverted?

abcdggs

Jawgap

Paparazzo wrote: »

.......Everyone hates cyclists on the roads, and to be honest, when I start cycling I hated them even more. There's no cameradery at all, every road user is an enemy if they're on a bike or not. It's a militant attitude and unless you're on an expensive bike you're on you're on your own.
........

Yeah, feckers - I hate them too - they just get in the way, what do I pay my road taxes for if not to have a clear run anytime I want to cycle.:)

Militant? I think you misundertand when you here cyclists talking about revolutions (per minute):)

Incidentally, I've had plenty of positive experiences with other road users while on the bike (even (motor)bikers!) - far more than frequently than I've had negative experiences.

Mental_Legend wrote: »

Hang on, can somebody explain these "rules" to me? I cycle a lot, I don't wear or own any lycra, I just wear whatever I happen to be wearing when I decide to go out on the bike. I live in a somewhat rural area on the outskirts of a small town. On my bike journey, I go through a small country lane that is hardly wide enough for two cars to pass each other in before I come into the town. On that small lane, I wave at pretty much every car that passes. Am I suddenly perverted?

To be taken with a pinch of salt

btw, you are quite the weirdo if you're not wearing your own lycra, but wearing someone else's:)

....and why do you only wave at people on the lane and not in the town - very anti-social.

blorg

Paparazzo wrote: »

and almost every biker stops when they see another biker stopped at the side of the road,

I nearly always ask if a cyclist is OK if I see one stopped apparently in trouble. This goes for roadies, commuters on BSOs, anyone. I only won't stop if I am in an unholy rush and the cyclist in question is in civilisation (read: my commute, although I have fixed more than one puncture on my commute home.) Generally punctures although there have been other minor mechanicals. I have received in turn when I have been fecked so all is good.

Mental_Legend wrote: »

Hang on, can somebody explain these "rules" to me?

These are the "rules" often mentioned here. As you can see rule number 23 states:

23. One shall NEVER, under any circumstances, acknowledge the presence of a cyclist riding a bike costing less than 2000€ in ANY public place. This may be severely detrimental to one’s image.

A cyclist in trouble with a sub 2000€ bike (don't know where they got that number from, should be more like 5-7000€ IMO) is not "riding a bike" and thus one can assist without contravening any regulation.

Still Euro.

Muckers

Yer draggin the arse out of this one Boardsies. Bottom line is that we all acknowledge fellow roadies down here in the Deise county because we are all doing the same thing.It doesnt matter whether your into racing or just cycle because you love it. Spread the love to fellow cyclists.Give em a nice big wave tomorrow.Incidentally there is no snobbery on this forum.