plannning permission nearly up

ddoc

hi, all how much of a new build needs to be completed before planning runs out,i have heard once you have you roof on ,your ok .im in the donegal area,thank s

DOCARCH

The house should be 'substantially' complete. The word substantially is interpreted slightly differently by most Councils, but usually means that the house should be weathertight, i.e. roof on and roof finishes complete, windows and external doors installed and external finsihes generally complete.

If you are worried or want a definitive answer for your area, no harm in ringing your local Council and getting their opinion.

Casati

Is it possible to extend planning period without formally reapplying for a complete new planning application?

DOCARCH

Casati wrote: »

Is it possible to extend planning period without formally reapplying for a complete new planning application?

If the house (or whatever it might be) is almost substantiaily complete, then yes there is a process for extending the permission (I think usually up to wall plate level). Usually it's just a matter of writing a letter, but again each Council has it's own methods so this needs to be checked with the appropriate Council.

If construction has not even been started and planning is about to run out, unfortunately it is a case of re-applying for permission all over again.

Just to note that there is some sort of extension of planning for large developments which have not been commenced for economic reasons, etc., but this does not apply to one off houses and domestic extensions.

Casati

Casati wrote: »

Is it possible to extend planning period without formally reapplying for a complete new planning application?

It happened to me! there were other issues that delayed the start of the build, had to start all over again - unfortunately, in the meantime they introduced the "development levy!"

The upside was that I had a better design for the reapplication.

muffler

ddoc wrote: »

hi, all how much of a new build needs to be completed before planning runs out,i have heard once you have you roof on ,your ok .im in the donegal area,thank s

Generally speaking (in Donegal) you can apply for an extension of duration of the original planning permission if you have it constructed to wallplate level. If the roof is on then I wouldn't see a problem.
This and a €62 fee is all you need then.

DOCARCH wrote: »

The house should be 'substantially' complete. The word substantially is interpreted slightly differently by most Councils, but usually means that the house should be weathertight, i.e. roof on and roof finishes complete, windows and external doors installed and external finsihes generally complete.

If you are worried or want a definitive answer for your area, no harm in ringing your local Council and getting their opinion.

Id agree in general with that but the phrase "substantial works" appears to be interpreted differently by different Planning Authorities so indeed it is recommended that you give them a quick ring to clarify.

Casati wrote: »

Is it possible to extend planning period without formally reapplying for a complete new planning application?

As stated above if you have "substantial works" complete you can apply for an extension of the duration of the original permission. This involves filling out a single form and paying a fee only.

However if you have none or little work done you will have to make a complete new application.

DOCARCH wrote: »

If construction has not even been started and planning is about to run out, unfortunately it is a case of re-applying for permission all over again

Agreed as per above.

Salmon

Hey all!Just wondering if its possible to re-apply for permission approx 1 year before planning runs out. I have permission that runs out in 2013 and may not need to build until approx 2015 or so! Could I put in a new permission application a year before my existing one runs out? If I get the planning there is not pressure on me to build but, if i dont I would still have time to get it 'substantially' complete.
I assume the new application would have to be different from the original application. What changes would be substantial enough that they warrant a new application??

mickdw

You could apply like you suggest but there is then the possibility that they simply tie you to the original deadline anyway as you wouold have to refer to the original planning application when applying.
If you are happy with your design etc, it would be wise to get it roofed within the current time limit.
If not totally happy, well take your chances but development plan could have changed substantially in the mean time leading to alot of trouble.

Mellor

Question to guys in different LAs.
LAs use either roof on or wall plates level as a measure of substantially complete.


Where an LA uses roof on as the mark. It's generally given that you can apply for an extension once you are at wall plate level.


Where the LA uses wall plate as the mark. At what point can you apply for an extension, I mean ou can apply at any stage, but at what stage is it a formality.