Cold Spell Discussion cont: Tuesday, Wednesday - more heavy snow risk

Deep Easterly

WolfeIRE wrote: »

it could only have been the storm brewing up waves on the atlantic coast and the sounds of crashing waves echoing through the surrounding hills. That or my tumble dryer wait...i dont have a tumble dryer. How spooky

:eek:

Su Campu

You know it's looking like there'll be very little snow at lower levels for any length of time anywhere, maybe half an hour or so, then rain. The way I'm looking at it the cold temperature profile at the leading edge (ie. the lightest part) of the precip band is just not wide enough to support snow below around 150m in the midlands, rising as the system moves north. There will be a very tight ThetaW gradient, meaning rapidly rising snowlines. The strong low level winds ahead of and during will ensure a well mixed boundary layer, therefore minimising the cold at the surface. These winds will also eliminate evaporative cooling, so, unlike Saturday, things are pointing towards the wrong side of marginal. (Evaporitive cooling inside Saturday's system was largely responsible for the snow at low levels, as winds were light enough not to affect the process. This is also evidenced by the fact that the snow was preceded by rain, which was outside the area of cooling).

Overlay these two charts as an illustration of what I mean (as a rule, the 2°C ThetaW line represents snow above around 150m)

700hPa RH (the 90% line marks the start of precipitation)

ninebeanrows

derekon wrote: »

The words "clutching" and "straws" comes to mind

Derek

Mate cop on please.

Please respect other members on here.

Winter does not mean snow and freezing conditions.

The fact is the medium term outlook is for unsettled and cool weather to dominate, perhaps snow will become less of a feature.

NOTICE to all members..

• I have noticed things becoming very catty on here lately and i don't like it one bit.
  
• Be it slagging off Met Eireann with no back up.
  
• Getting in rows with each other over the Mets forecasts.
  
• Getting in rows with each other over your own thoughts.
  
• Stupid comments.
  
• Personal digs such as in Dereks post above.

Things are probably going to turn abit quieter over the coming months as winter clears away, lets not leave the busy winter behind on a bad note.

doccy

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Nacho, we have a season of thunder coming up till then. Snow cannot match the awesome power of a good summer lightning storm. Forget your lust for snow, and enjoy the possibilities ahead!

Move up to Wicklow and Ill tell you well in advance when they're coming. Migraine central

faktisperminute

its looks like this setup is just like from lastime cork got flooded and we had snow showers with no stop for the whole day and night this will be repeated i guess but with a lot more snow:P

H2UMrsRobinson

What is a girl to do...abandon all hope or clutch at straws. Oh the decisions.

Some on here have been heralding the end of winter since end of Jan, and it's still feckin' freezin so I guess it's just a waiting game. Just been looking at some stats and a temperature of -6 was recorded in May before now...:eek: (is May spring or summer btw ? )

In my mind winter is over when i don't need gloves and the insides of my ears don't hurt in the wind.

I've decided...straws it is...will ultimately lead to dissapointment but a more interesting journey.

WolfeIRE

H2UMrsRobinson wrote: »

I've decided...straws it is...will ultimately lead to dissapointment but a more interesting journey.

The many journeys and regular letdowns make me much more appreciative of snowfall when it does happen.:)

by the way, do RTE Radio 1 still do a forecast at 11.55?

Deep Easterly

WolfeIRE wrote: »

by the way, do RTE Radio 1 still do a forecast at 11.55?

No, they now broadcast it at 11.55.

snow ghost

Su,

I sincerely hope you're wrong there about below 150m.

Nacho,

Try the Australian Alps - June onwards, plenty of snow there. There is definitely demand for an indoor snow dome in this country, one of those where you can go skiing and sledging. I was in one the once in England, and it was very snow-satisfying, just like the real stuff.

And I think if there ever is one, it should be close to Tuam, but just over the border in Mayo, just to add to Deep's frustration that he never gets the snow.

Deep Easterly

A tune to keep us occupied up till the 11.55 met broadcast:

Deep Easterly

John Eagleton just mentions that rain may turn to snow for a short while tomorrow as it pushes north. Tis something I suppose.

WolfeIRE

eagle said rain

i just googled rain to find out what it means and the definition is 'Not snow you Clare eeijot":(

nite nite all

nacho libre

Deep Easterly wrote: »

John Eagleton just mentions that rain may turn to snow for a short while tomorrow as it pushes north. Tis something I suppose.

yeah better than nothing. still i got the feeling he thinks it's unlikely but is just covering himself after they got caught out with the snow to end the so-called big freeze on January 13'th.

desolate sun

Evelyn on TV just said there would be snow tomorrow moving up over Ireland. Was this a repeat of 9pm?

ninebeanrows

The liklihood is tomorrow there will be a period of snow for the Midlands during the afternoon turning to rain.

Areas of Ulster could well see some decent accumulations towards dawn Wednesday, and it is uncertain at this point whether the cold boundary will push far north enough to thaw this or whether it will stay around middle ulster or perhaps the border.

Not

Just a quickie - I'm driving to Cork later this morning - do I need to bring a snow shovel ?

Danno

Nope, just bring a normal one. If it does not come in handy for clearing snow, it will come in handy for digging trenches to relieve flood water.

Joe Public

Not wrote: »

Just a quickie - I'm driving to Cork later this morning - do I need to bring a snow shovel ?

You could use it to fill in potholes caused by the weather, of course, and poor quality road building:)

darkman2

Looks like milder air from the South will be coming in sharper and quicker then expected. Even Northern areas will struggle to hold on to falling snow. Sorry if anyone is disappointed but that is the way the cookie crumbles. It's a very narrow margin - a tight rope we have to thread here in order to forecast. But there will be further opportunities if you miss out this time later in the week. Winter is far from over.

Danno

It is a sickner alright DM2, I felt this was too much influenced by Biscay to deliver snow... then again tomorrow could be totally different on the ground - who really knows?

darkman2

Danno wrote: »

It is a sickner alright DM2, I felt this was too much influenced by Biscay to deliver snow... then again tomorrow could be totally different on the ground - who really knows?

00z runs are the final opportunity for change. You never know but I think it's nailed now because the models are in agreement. It would take a substantial shift this soon for something good to occur for most.

cherryghost

BBC forecast, update at half 12 this morning.

Speak Now

derekon wrote: »

Lets be honest , winter is over

You said the same 2 weeks ago, i guess if you say it often enough you can claim to be right eventaully. Believe it or not winter in ireland is not defined purely by Snowfall.

smashey

If that BBC map works out, I'm in for a serious dumping of snow in Strabane tonight and early tomorrow. Who said winter is over?

pistolpetes11

Just as I jump in the jeep there is small bits graupel knocking about in the wind !


I was not expecting it to get here so soon !

cherryghost

updated BBC forecast has the model still looking roughly the same.

Big Nasty

Snowing quite heavily in Sandyford, D18 now!

dbyrne

its snowing in walkinstown at the moment, not sticking though.... yet!!!!

cherryghost

excellent news! forecast looks to have at least 6-9 hours of continous fall over areas

cherryghost

typical. shannon radar down :rolleyes:


EDIT: Can someone close this thread. i got confused with this one and the new one