Would you like a Sub forum for the Superthreads..?

Dub13

It has been suggested that in order to free up the main Soccer forum we could have a Sub forum for the Super threads.This proposed forum would only be for the superthreads and you would not be able to start a new thread.


I will add a poll.

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No

everdead.ie

Dub13 wrote: »

It has been suggested that in order to free up the main Soccer forum we could have a Sub forum for the Super threads.This proposed forum would only be for the superthreads and you would not be able to start a new thread.


I will add a poll.

I think you'd end up with the super threads getting way way off topic because no one would move from the super thread to whatever the otherthread is

I think anyway

CHD

Too much stuff will be moved to them, lead to more sub forums, blah blah something else. No.

ShiverinEskimo

No. Pointless - instead of clicking into one forum to view the United thread and any new soccer ones made I'll be clicking into two. For no apparent benefit.

Frisbee

No, it's not like they take up a huge amount of room on the forum so what's the difference in clicking page 2 instead of clicking into a sub-forum.

mike65

Wrong question for me, more general club sub fora is what would work best. Re-shuffling the existing deck will be of no real value.

RandolphEsq

No

Start them all again from scratch!

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mike65 wrote: »

Wrong question for me, more general club sub fora is what would work best. Re-shuffling the existing deck will be of no real value.

How many more times are you going to bang that drum?

The Users have said no, the mods have said no, and the Admins have said no.

Let it go.

Dub13

No

mike65 wrote: »

Wrong question for me, more general club sub fora is what would work best. Re-shuffling the existing deck will be of no real value.

There is a thread going on that already.This is about the superthreads people give out about them this is a suggestion to maybe deal with that.

Dub13

No

I personally think yes this is a win win situation,if you don't like the super threads they are gone out of sight leaving the forum more room.And yes they can take up a lot of room on the main page.

I follow my threads via the User CP so I will be brought to the super threads I post in automatically,so it does not matter what forum they are in.

ctrl-alt-delete

I voted No, i don't see the point really,

Just more navigation trouble than there is at the moment, there is no problem with where they are at the moment.

mike65

Sorry I wasn't intending to proselytize. I just don't see the point of a Superthread sub-forurm.

Quazzie

No

The first page is always littered with these and it means that a thread can very quickly be pushed to the second (dead) page. Having a sub fora for them would free up the first page for soccer threads, not just club specific threads.

I just want to voice my opinion that I am also in agreement with Mike65 about club specific forums but I accept that we might be in the minority on that one.

pickarooney

No

Yes. They're of no interest to me and clutter up the main forum.

kryogen

no, going down a road that divides the forum is not for me!

could lead to more sub forums in the future and would lead to the eventual death of the soccer forum in my end of the world outlook

Dub13

No

kryogen wrote: »

no, going down a road that divides the forum is not for me!

could lead to more sub forums in the future and would lead to the eventual death of the soccer forum in my end of the world outlook

I don't agree,I am dead against splitting the forum but support this idea.The super threads are knocking other threads off the main page,this proposal will give us more room.

NoelJ

No

The Topic changes every couple of hours in some forums and becomes so hard to read. So a definite yes

event

no, dont see the point of it tbh

L'prof

No

Dub13 wrote: »

I don't agree,I am dead against splitting the forum but support this idea.The super threads are knocking other threads off the main page,this proposal will give us more room.

Yeah, there's 7 on the front page now. They really don't need to be there, I have links to them all in the User CP and would prefer to see more "regular"/new threads there.

dfx-

No, I manage to 95% of the time avoid them whilst as is

The Recliner

No

I think it would be a good idea, it might encourage people to join in more general discussions if they aren't being swamped and pushed off the main page

Dave!

Nope, no need for it. Just ban any trolling idiots promptly and the forum will be fine.

JPA

Bad idea IMO. The superthreads bring people in and leads to more traffic for the soccer forum. Then if a thread catches someone's eye they can post in it.
With this proposed idea the soccer forum would be bypassed by many and I think it could become a very quiet place.

cashback

I think there's already enough sub forums on boards. So I agree with those who think it's a bad idea.

CHD

Most tightly contested poll in ages. Exciting stuff.

Dub13

No

CHD wrote: »

Most tightly contested poll in ages. Exciting stuff.

Sure is,and just like Lisbon we are going again if we get the wrong answer.....:)

Xavi6

The usual no from me.

SantryRed

It would ruin this forum. There are a lot of fans of the big teams who really don't give two sh1ts about football in general, just that certain club. You see how the place goes dead on weekends United and Liverpool aren't playing. Less people who enter this forum. Guarantee it.

Nalz

Des wrote: »

No

+1

I think thats what you type when you agree and want to second something

If its not clear, I vote no also

Jagera

No

Great idea. Superthreads and match threads take up the majority of the front page.

I would even like a sub-forum for Match threads, but one step at a time!

Liam O

bw wrote: »

Great idea. Superthreads and match threads take up the majority of the front page.

I would even like a sub-forum for Match threads, but one step at a time!

personally I think that would be a better idea than moving the superthreads. Move match discussion to one forum and leave one for general discussion imo.

Keano

No

I voted yes, just for the fact that they clog up the page on me but I do agree with people who say they bring a lot of traffic to the forum.

I personally would like a hide thread option.

--amadeus--

SantryRed wrote: »

It would ruin this forum. There are a lot of fans of the big teams who really don't give two sh1ts about football in general, just that certain club. You see how the place goes dead on weekends United and Liverpool aren't playing. Less people who enter this forum. Guarantee it.

Don't confuse Quantity with Quality

pickarooney

No

Dub13 wrote: »

Sure is,and just like Lisbon we are going again if we get the wrong answer.....:)

Except reword the proposal so that we rename the current soccer forum to 'soccer superthreads' and create a new soccer forum.

LuckyLloyd

Dub13 wrote: »

Sure is,and just like Lisbon we are going again if we get the wrong answer.....:)

The decision shouldn't be made / not made on the basis of a simple majority vote in a thread poll for many obvious reasons. And that goes for any discussion in relation to forum policy change.

Mr. Presentable

mike65 wrote: »

Wrong question for me, more general club sub fora is what would work best. Re-shuffling the existing deck will be of no real value.

I agree. There is no value in a sub-forum to contain threads already existing. All that does is cost another click.

I know some of the heads don't like the idea but mike65 is and has been right: Club specific fora is the way to go, and, in my opinion, the way it will ultimately go - like it or not.

Mr. Presentable

SantryRed wrote: »

It would ruin this forum. There are a lot of fans of the big teams who really don't give two sh1ts about football in general, just that certain club. You see how the place goes dead on weekends United and Liverpool aren't playing. Less people who enter this forum. Guarantee it.

Agreed, and they should be given their own enclosure - leave soccer for football fans - let the banneristas go. Fewer people in the forum should not be a problem if there is quality rather than quantity.

Dub13

No

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The decision shouldn't be made / not made on the basis of a simple majority vote in a thread poll for many obvious reasons. And that goes for any discussion in relation to forum policy change.

I would agree once the vote is close we would have nothing to lose if we trialled this new sub forum ontill the end of the season,sure there is only 2 and a half months left in the club season.If it does not work we can easily go back to the current system.

LuckyLloyd

Dub13 wrote: »

I would agree once the vote is close we would have nothing to lose if we trialled this new sub forum ontill the end of the season,sure there is only 2 and a half months left in the club season.If it does not work we can easily go back to the current system.

Or, you could look at the significant groundswell of users who are firmly against the idea; consider the (significant) potential negatives of any splintering of the forum; and consequent reduction of first time traffic / cross team discussion - and drop the idea. Even if you win the poll by a vote.

Dub13

No

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Or, you could look at the significant groundswell of users who are firmly against the idea; consider the (significant) potential negatives of any splintering of the forum; and consequent reduction of first time traffic / cross team discussion - and drop the idea. Even if you win the poll by a vote.

Yes but I must add its not our job to decide,this will be a Admin call thats why they are on the top $.

Dont be at yourself

Isn't one of the arguments against club-specific sub forums is that users would stop posting on the main soccer forum? I don't see how this would be much different.

Anyway, superthreads already make discussion hopelessly hard to follow and contribute to, so why not make them a sub-forum?

Iago

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The decision shouldn't be made / not made on the basis of a simple majority vote in a thread poll

I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to sort of act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting...

...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs...

But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major...

LuckyLloyd

Dub13 wrote: »

Yes but I must add its not our job to decide,this will be a Admin call thats why they are on the top $.

The Admin team are involved in deciding whether we have subforums now? As far as I was aware the mod team had to request extra subforums. They were rarely, if ever, told a forum was getting them.

Jagera

No

Iago wrote: »

I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to sort of act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting...

...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs...

But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major...

Be quiet, I ORDER you to be quiet!

Just a question - is this poll just to get an advanced feeling of something that is going to happen anyway? I am for it by the way.

Lamper.sffc

No

I think its a good idea.
More room for general discussions on footballing matters. Less likely that a thread will get moved off the front page as quickly allowing it more time to develope.

Dub13

No

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Isn't one of the arguments against club-specific sub forums is that users would stop posting on the main soccer forum? I don't see how this would be much different.

Users who currently post in the super threads will continue to post in them,regardless of were they are.One of the safe guards against this new sub forum taken away from the main soccer forum is that you will not be able to start a new thread in the forum.

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Anyway, superthreads already make discussion hopelessly hard to follow and contribute to, so why not make them a sub-forum?

I agree they are had to follow but they do serve a purpose,some people love them some hate them I think this proposal is a happy compromise.

astrofool

The soccer forums biggest mistake was allowing "superthreads" in the first place. I'd still be of the opinion to not allow club forums, but instead subdivide by league. Should give the likes of the SPL and irish league room to breathe.

Dub13

No

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The Admin team are involved in deciding whether we have subforums now? As far as I was aware the mod team had to request extra subforums. They were rarely, if ever, told a forum was getting them.

I should have said it will be done in consultation with the Admins as it would be a major change in the forum they will need to be brought into the loop.

Lamper.sffc

No

Dub13 wrote: »

Users who currently post in the super threads will continue to post in them,regardless of were they are.One of the safe guards against this new sub forum taken away from the main soccer forum is that you will not be able to start a new thread in the forum.



I agree they are had to follow but they do serve a purpose,some people love them some hate them I think this proposal is a happy compromise.

Totally agree. This way those who dont like them dont have to suffer them clogging up the soccer forum and those that do like them, well it makes no difference to the them as the superthread will remain the same just an extra click away.

Bounty Hunter

Des wrote: »

No

what he said tbh.