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'Shaping the city' -Dublin as a low-rise capital

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    #62
    monument
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    sdonn wrote: »
    Maybe the article was comparing the urban area of LA with the commuter belt of Dublin, which would be similar?

    Not really comparable is it? The city areas are not comparable -- LA has skyscrapers and other high density buildings filling it's downtown area, while Dublin has no skyscrapers and little to no high density. The continuous urban areas are not comparable -- LA is way, way larger. The "Greater Areas" of both cities are not comparable -- LA is way, way larger.


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    #63
    Cianos
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    In any case L.A is a great example of horrendous urban development based around car dependency and suburban sprawl, with one of, if not the highest murder rates in the Western world. L.A is one giant suburb, comparable in most aspects to Tallaght but on a much larger scale.


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    #64
    Cool Mo D
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    monument wrote: »
    Not really comparable is it? The city areas are not comparable -- LA has skyscrapers and other high density buildings filling it's downtown area, while Dublin has no skyscrapers and little to no high density. The continuous urban areas are not comparable -- LA is way, way larger. The "Greater Areas" of both cities are not comparable -- LA is way, way larger.

    Dublin's city centre is just as dense as most other European cities of similar size - the city council area is pretty much exactly the same as fairly typical similar European cities like Nice, Stockholm, and Porto. The sprawl in Dublin is in places like Lucan, Blanchardstown, and Kildare.

    Skyscrapers generally do not do much for the density of a city - what a dense city has is tightly spaced 4 -10 storey buildings.
    Sprawl is generally indicated by large surface carparks, big-box retail set back from multi-lane roads, detached houses, and large housing estates with only one entrance and exit.


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    #65
    markpb
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    sdonn wrote: »
    Maybe the article was comparing the urban area of LA with the commuter belt of Dublin, which would be similar?

    It was indeed comparing the commuter belt. Here's a scan of it. I think it's rubbish, it compares Dublin and it's commuter belt to Los Angeles without it's commuter belt. It says Hollywood is 48k from Downtown LA which is utter tosh - it's about 15k.
    Cianos wrote: »
    In any case L.A is a great example of horrendous urban development based around car dependency and suburban sprawl, with one of, if not the highest murder rates in the Western world. L.A is one giant suburb, comparable in most aspects to Tallaght but on a much larger scale.

    True but with a few minor corrections. LA is nothing like one suburb - it's actually based around lots and lots of urban centers, several of which have scale of their own unlike Dublin which is a city surrounded by miles of residential suburbs. They're also making a greater effort to reduce their dependency on cars through transit oriented development plans, changes in planning and a rail system which is expanding at a rate we can't imagine. People living there have voted three times in a row to increase their taxes to pay for road and rail improvement projects.


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