Tesco Fraudulent advertising

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

So you ARE just making assumptions then.

No, because I have seen it in the stores myself.
You are the one making assumptions, you are assuming that I am wrong.
Brits out eh? :rolleyes:

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

No, because I have seen it in the stores myself.
You are the one making assumptions, you are assuming that I am wrong.
Brits out eh? :rolleyes:

No I like Tesco's but if you have seen it in others stores then please do give us an example to verify your belief.

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

No I like Tesco's but if you have seen it in others stores then please do give us an example to verify your belief.

It's so common that you may as well be asking me to give you an example that dogs have four legs.

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

It's so common that you may as well be asking me to give you an example that dogs have four legs.

well humour me, if it is so common you must have a load of examples, how about backing up your claim with 1 piece of proof?

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

well humour me, if it is so common you must have a load of examples, how about backing up your claim with 1 piece of proof?

Look at the plant code on the back of any "Irish" chicken.

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

Look at the plant code on the back of any "Irish" chicken.

Are you referring to fresh whole chickens? If you are you will find any Irish Chicken is from either Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland, and that is fine as both places are Irish.

If you are referring to processed chicken, then if it has been processed in Ireland it can be called Irish regardless of where the chicken comes from.

However as I mention above a fresh chicken labelled Irish chicken has to come from the island of Ireland.

Voltex

Magenta wrote: »

If he went into any other shop he would find the exact same thing but this is only scandalous because Tesco are English-owned. *yawn*

I dont care if it was tesco..superquinn...aldi or spar....the point is that Tesco is the only multiple that have all these fliers fluttering around their aisles claiming product X,Y &Z are Irish drawing the customer in to make a purchase based on an decision that they were buying a product manufactuered in the State (please note the capital S),...along with a tricolour image for that added visual.

Now I know some people have made the point that it could just be error on the part of a shelf stacker...but take a closer look at the shelf label...you can see the products barcode..name..price and an image of a shamrock. Thats there so that the merchandisers know where to place the fliers!

just read page one and 3 and i've some pain in my head..can't believe someone actually went in with a camera, took the pictures and posted them here..bored?

Posters...if you are interested in this debate...contribute..if not..then dont. If you happen to think that my taking of photos in a supermarket with my hi tech ( now wait for this) camera phone phone is daft keep that opinion to yourself and your loved ones.

Magenta

Voltex wrote: »

I dont care if it was tesco..superquinn...aldi or spar....the point is that Tesco is the only multiple that have all these fliers fluttering around their aisles claiming product X,Y &Z are Irish drawing the customer in to make a purchase based on an decision that they were buying a product manufactuered in the State (please note the capital S),...along with a tricolour image for that added visual.

Not really, Superquinn online shopping displays a shamrock beside Irish/"Irish" products.

ejmaztec

91011 wrote: »

I dispise this anti-tesco attitude too many people have. Yes, Tesco is based in the UK but it is a Public company and most pension funds would have a shareholding. So the chances are whilst the profits go into the uk, they are then spread out amongst all shareholders possibly including granny nora in tralee if she has a private pension.

Yes, I'd bet that Tesco has got more Irish shareholders than many Irish companies, and definitely more than Dunnes, Superquinn and Musgrave etc...

Magenta

ejmaztec wrote: »

Yes, I'd bet that Tesco has got more Irish shareholders than many Irish companies, and definitely more than Dunnes, Superquinn and Musgrave etc...

Not forgetting they hire Irish staff, buy products from Irish-owned companies, etc. You see the old "Go to an Irish store" crap trotted out a lot here.

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

Also, OP, if you care so much, then go into all your local shops and supermarkets and complain...it's happening everywhere.

You still haven't given an example of a store and a product from your large repertoire, just a reference to chicken with no product details and no store. Would you care to back up these statements you are making with some facts, e.g. a product and a store where a product is being sold as Irish with a tricolour and is not from Ireland. And i don't mean processed food in Ireland, an example like the hotcross bun made in Nottingham and being sold under the banner buy me I'm Irish and the tricolour.
It is very easy for people to make sweeping statements like "it's happening everywhere", well if it is so common you must have hundreds of examples of products and stores, why not just give us one or two........

Voltex

ejmaztec wrote: »

Yes, I'd bet that Tesco has got more Irish shareholders than many Irish companies, and definitely more than Dunnes, Superquinn and Musgrave etc...

given that that Tesco is the only PLC listed there?...so given the total number of issued ordinary and preference shares chances are.

Not forgetting they hire Irish staff, buy products from Irish-owned companies

...so you agree that identifying irish product is good for Irish jobs and Irish companies....and that its probably safe to say that there is a sizeable section of the cosumer that would like to buy Irish for the above reason?

I dont know why everyone is being distracted from the butt of this thread!
The facts are that Tesco are labeling product produced in the UK as Irish..just as the UK multiples label their foods british.

Take a look at the image http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1267307211805

Now given the name...the little flag flying off the burger...how would you think the consumer would react if they discovered the burger came from Brazil?

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

You still haven't given an example of a store and a product from your large repertoire, just a reference to chicken with no product details and no store. Would you care to back up these statements you are making with some facts, e.g. a product and a store where a product is being sold as Irish with a tricolour and is not from Ireland.

Sorry I am not at your beck and call to run to a supermarket with a camera as soon as you click your fingers....I do have a life.

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

Sorry I am not at your beck and call to run to a supermarket with a camera as soon as you click your fingers....I do have a life.

I'll take that to mean you have none, thank you....I don;t want you or anyone at my beck and call but I do like people to be able to back up their statements with some facts

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

I'll take that to mean you have none, thank you....

LOL....you honestly sat at your computer for an hour waiting on me to go to the supermarket for you and report back?

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

LOL....you honestly sat at your computer for an hour waiting on me to go to the supermarket for you and report back?

No but you previously stated you have seen it everywhere, well I would have thought you would be able to remember one example

Magenta

IrishTonyO wrote: »

No but you previously stated you have seen it everywhere, well I would have thought you would be able to remember one example

Yeah hold on while I recall the plant codes off the back of the packages of all the "Irish" meat I have bought in the past 6 months....

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

Yeah hold on while I recall the plant codes off the back of the packages of all the "Irish" meat I have bought in the past 6 months....

Very good and what where were the plant codes for and was it labelled Irish Mince Meat etc or just Mince Meat?... and what shop?
And if all the meat you bought in the last 6 months was labelled Irish I would love to know what shop you buy it in..

Voltex

.....thanks you two....youve made me laugh out loud!!:D

Magenta

Voltex wrote: »

.....thanks you two....youve made me laugh out loud!!:D

It makes a change from wandering around Tesco with a camera...

IrishTonyO

Magenta wrote: »

It makes a change from wandering around Tesco with a camera...

Most people actually have mobile phones these days and amazingly enough the vast majority of them have a camera.. now I know this may come as a shock to you, but you'd be amazed at the technology today
And a result of this he was able to back up his statements with some hard evidence and facts
Anyway I am finished on this subject now.....

Magenta

Magenta wrote:

It makes a change from wandering around Tesco with a camera...

IrishTonyO wrote: »

Most people actually have mobile phones these days and amazingly enough the vast majority of them have a camera.. now I know this may come as a shock to you, but you'd be amazed at the technology today

I didn't specify whether the "camera" was an actual camera or whether it was within a phone... so your attempt at looking intelligent has sadly failed.

ch750536

Whilst I would agree there is a sizable contingent of 'Anyone but Tesco's' in Ireland there is also a sizable contingent of 'Tesco's do nothing wrong' too.

Anyone arguing the point that it is fine for any supplier to label a product 'Buy me I'm Irish' which comes from Nottingham is on shaky ground. The OP was correct to point this out, I'll be checking these labels a little more in future and raising an issue if I feel it is incorrectly labelled as I would if it had the wrong weight or other descriptive.

For those who feel they need to protect the name of Tesco on boards I'd recommend they raise the issue with their manager next time they are in work first.

parsi

jhegarty wrote: »

You are mistaking Ireland, for the Republic Of Ireland.

The first is an island on the west coast of Europe , the other is a country that doesn't use that whole area.


Well done tesco tbh.

The country is actually called "Ireland" or "Eire" in the first language.

The type of country is a Republic.

Magenta

ch750536 wrote: »

For those who feel they need to protect the name of Tesco on boards I'd recommend they raise the issue with their manager next time they are in work first.

LOL...Going by your sig, I'm sure you're not biased at all....
It's amazing the amount of racist anti-"Brits" rubbish on this forum.

rubadub

Voltex wrote: »

Without trying to put too fine a point on it...your reasoned argument is total rubbish...but ill humour your opinion. Regardless of who placed the fliers...due diligence requires that adverts,promotions, and product descriptors are un-ambiguous, clear, and not likely to mislead, something Tesco haveclearly side stepped on.

My "reasoned argument" was that it was likely to be a mistake, I think this is far more likely than your conspiracy theory of it being from instruction "at an executive level". I see stuff mislabelled all the time in many supermarkets, just mislabelling in general, e.g. a snickers price under a stack of mars bars. I have seen people knock off sales signs all the time, and place them back up themselves in the wrong place. Signs like these

Magenta wrote: »

It's amazing the amount of racist anti-"Brits" rubbish on this forum.

Yes, I hope their hats are made with an Irish brand of tinfoil.

Magenta

rubadub wrote: »

Yes, I hope their hats are made with an Irish brand of tinfoil.

And the blogs and websites in their sigs are on Irish sites and designed by Irish web designers....

ejmaztec

ch750536 wrote: »

For those who feel they need to protect the name of Tesco on boards I'd recommend they raise the issue with their manager next time they are in work first.

If you think that everyone sticking up for Tesco actually works for Tesco, perhaps we should have a poll? I only back Tesco when it gets mentioned in some ridiculous political rant purely because it's British.

I don't work for Tesco, I work for myself. My family did its last big shop in Dunnes, mainly thanks to the likes of Tesco, Aldi and Lidl making Dunnes more competitive.

You get annoyed with Tesco because of the way that they operate, but you shouldn't ignore the fact that all of the other super-markets are doing exactly the same, and they're quite happy that Tesco is singled out as the bad boy, because they can carry on in their own sweet way under the radar.

IrishTonyO

ejmaztec wrote: »

You get annoyed with Tesco because of the way that they operate, but you shouldn't ignore the fact that all of the other super-markets are doing exactly the same, and they're quite happy that Tesco is singled out as the bad boy, because they can carry on in their own sweet way under the radar.

Again back up your statement with some examples and stores. Very easy to say they are all doing it, when you don't provide any proof. The point is not that it is Tesco because they are a UK company, the point is it is false advertising. No one has yet provided any examples any other products and stores.

ejmaztec

IrishTonyO wrote: »

Again back up your statement with some examples and stores. Very easy to say they are all doing it, when you don't provide any proof. The point is not that it is Tesco because they are a UK company, the point is it is false advertising. No one has yet provided any examples any other products and stores.

When I've got a significant gap in my busy schedule, I'll comb the shelves of all of the supermarkets and get back to you.

Hagar

Does the sarcasm and derision of posters negate the fact that Tescos are mis-labelling products to deceive their customers?

Magenta

69 wrote: »

Does the sarcasm and derision racism and delusion of posters negate the fact that Tescos supermarkets are mis-labelling products to deceive their customers?

Fixed that for you.

Hagar

Magenta wrote: »

Fixed that for you. I haven't two brain cells to rub together so I have to resort to this feeble attempt at a coherent arguement

Returned the favour, I'd hate to be in your debt.

ch750536

Lets not get this binned all, the OP raised a correct issue of mislabelling, which Tesco has admitted to.

I don't shop there too often myself but this is something of legitimate concern and as stated earlier it's something I will take note of with any supplier from now on.

Suggest PM's are used for any personal issues.

Suggest we list any other examples from supermarkets here as a 'mislabel blacklist' else this may be time for the mods to close.

Magenta

ejmaztec wrote: »

When I've got a significant gap in my busy schedule, I'll comb the shelves of all of the supermarkets and get back to you.

Last night he told me to go and get proof that other supermarkets are at this... 1 HOUR later he was asking me where it was... yeah hold on while I just run to the supermarket as soon as you click your fingers...

Magenta

69 wrote: »

Returned the favour, I'd hate to be in your debt.

Can you quote where I said I am in any debt?

Magenta

ch750536 wrote: »

Suggest PM's are used for any personal issues.

Suggest we list any other examples from supermarkets here as a 'mislabel blacklist' else this may be time for the mods to close.

When did you become a mod, or are you driving from the back seat? :rolleyes:

Hagar

I can't say I have ever seen any other supermarket chain trying to pass off foreign goods as Irish goods except Tesco. Dunnes & Superquinn advertise their Irishness as part of their sales pitch, as is their right. Tesco can see the public resistance to their "foreigness" and are feigning an "Irishness" that they have no right to. People would shop there because they offer good value on many product lines but they are getting peoples' back up with their deceitful practices and it is very bad PR. People don't like lies.

anneboleyn

Lets get things in perspective here.
Firstly I don't shop in Tescos and I hate them. I hated them when I lived in England and I hate them even more now I've moved home to Ireland, because of the way they treat their growers, their suppliers and every other poor sod that is part of their supply chain. For the record I now shop in Dunnes for bulk and Superquinn for the nice stuff.
However, how can it be misleading (whatever your political persuausion) ? to label something as "Irish" and use the tricolour to represent it, when it was produced/packaged on the island of Ireland ? Green to represent Nationalist and Orange to represent unionist and white to represent peace between the two ! I live about 2 miles from the National Flag monument in Co Tipp.. come and read the blurb..
I'd take far more exception if they labelled something British that was produced packaged anywhere within the 32 counties of Ireland.
M&S do exactly the same, they just don't use the flag symbol ..

ch750536

anneboleyn wrote: »

Lets get things in perspective here.
Firstly I don't shop in Tescos and I hate them. I hated them when I lived in England and I hate them even more now I've moved home to Ireland, because of the way they treat their growers, their suppliers and every other poor sod that is part of their supply chain. For the record I now shop in Dunnes for bulk and Superquinn for the nice stuff.
However, how can it be misleading (whatever your political persuausion) ? to label something as "Irish" and use the tricolour to represent it, when it was produced/packaged on the island of Ireland ? Green to represent Nationalist and Orange to represent unionist and white to represent peace between the two ! I live about 2 miles from the National Flag monument in Co Tipp.. come and read the blurb..
I'd take far more exception if they labelled something British that was produced packaged anywhere within the 32 counties of Ireland.
M&S do exactly the same, they just don't use the flag symbol ..

Issue is that the OP raised a case where the product came from Nottingham UK. Im sure 99% would agree with the above post.

ch750536

Magenta wrote: »

When did you become a mod, or are you driving from the back seat? :rolleyes:

Just following the forum rules. Lets not derail from the original issue.

Magenta

ch750536 wrote: »

Just following the forum rules. Lets not derail from the original issue.

I only take instruction from mods, not wannabes. Sorry.

Hagar

If it's all Irish as they claim let's see their explanation for price differences North and South?

ch750536

69 wrote: »

If it's all Irish as they claim let's see their explanation for price differences North and South?

Shipping Irish produce to the UK & back would be part of this. Maybe worthy of a thread in its own right somewhere...

ejmaztec

69 wrote: »

If it's all Irish as they claim let's see their explanation for price differences North and South?

Probably the same explanation that you'd get from Dunnes and SuperValu.

rubadub

69 wrote: »

If it's all Irish as they claim let's see their explanation for price differences North and South?

Explanation?? are you serious, do you really need an explanation for this most fundamental of standard business practices?

This might come as a complete shock, but those degenerates in dunnes also have different prices for the same items north & south :eek:. So do M&S and McDonalds, its shocking what they can get away with.

ch750536

http://www.loveirishfood.ie/about-us/criteria.aspx

Kinda agree. Basically if you can source from Ireland then you should. Oranges for example can't be sourced from Ireland but the manufacturing process can still occur here, making it an Irish product.

Well thought out criteria to be honest.

Magenta

ch750536 wrote: »

http://www.loveirishfood.ie/about-us/criteria.aspx

Kinda agree. Basically if you can source from Ireland then you should. Oranges for example can't be sourced from Ireland but the manufacturing process can still occur here, making it an Irish product.

Well thought out criteria to be honest.

Oranges are not manufactured, they are grown :rolleyes:
Unless you are referring to them being packaged, which legally allows them to be called Irish. Why is it OK for oranges but not chicken/pastry products etc?

ch750536

Magenta wrote: »

Oranges are not manufactured, they are grown :rolleyes:
Unless you are referring to them being packaged, which legally allows them to be called Irish. Why is it OK for oranges but not chicken/pastry products etc?

Like I said, Oranges can't be sourced from Ireland.

rubadub

It says "strict criteria" but this seems very vague

2) Primary Ingredients must be sourced from Ireland where possible.

Some ingredients for Irish Food and Drink Brands are not grown in Ireland e.g. we do not grow tea leaves, oranges, cocoa beans, etc so these ingredients must be imported. A brand can still be eligible when its ingredients are imported as long as these ingredients cannot be sourced from ROI.

Some ingredients are only available seasonally in the ROI, or supplies may be limited and therefore it may be necessary to import replacement/additional supplies.

My uncle grows grapes in his garden. The fact is many companies cannot compete so simply have to find another business to get into. It is not viable to run a pineapple farm in Ireland, and I would have no sympathy for a farmer who did try and set one up and failed due to having to charge huge prices to cover his overheads. There should be no blackmailing guilt trip on people, making them feel they should buy Irish pineapples just to support a business which is clearly not viable. This "where possible" is too vague, its possible to source/grow many items here but we do not. But I suppose if it is viable there will probably be some Irish brand, but where do you draw the line, if my uncle began to sell his grapes then is it recognised as being "possible", and therefore no others could be branded Irish unless grown here too.