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A pub worse then geoffs/worst place to drink in town
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I love geoff's, it is without a shadow of a doubt my fave pub in waterford. The thing I like about it is that there's NOT a particular type of person who goes there i.e. it suits all types, so I don't understand the problem the OP has with it?
There are a few pubs I can't stand, like revolution, muldoon's or harvey's because they are all full of the same type of person - really drunk and on the pull. Not to generalise lol
That's how it comes across to me anyway! 0 -
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Back to the OP, you are spot on about The Cove. A group of us went in a few weeks back, and took one look and turned on our heels! Full of trogladites!
As for Geoffs, I personally like it. I agree with some of the other posts about it, entertainment wise and what the staff do is just crap and the have defo made a balls of it by putting crappy loud music in there (and yes, I've often watched them stand and play with that laptop for aggggeeessss!) Other than that, its a grand bar, early in the evening or weeknight.
There are other bars too I just despise:
Revolution = Full of chavs and kids and Flash is an ignorant cnut!
Masons = See above
Harveys = See above, above
Muldoons = Think its closed = Thank f***!
Woodman = MOST legendary bar in town
Wancky Apple = Kip
Kazbar = Nice for a coffee and bit of futty, full of chavs and trainer wearing nobjockies come 8pm... and god forbid should you want to hear yourself think, let alone talk to your friends or order a drink!!!!
Philly Grimes = Nice bar, defo love visits there.
Downses = Love the way its just not changed in years. Can talk to your friends and beer is nice. Oh and Oktoberfest
Uluru = Grand bar, can get a little busy, but gotta love that DJ with the bere I lolz a lot! haha
I could go on, but its heading out of town from here on, where most bars are a lot quieter!0 -
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I agree with ya pretty much danglee.
I go to harveys on a sat night and bar the odd good song and nice smoking area I hate it in there,
I'm from the school of thought of a nice quiet pub for a chat then moving onto a slighty less quiet pub for a band.
Bang On!
I still go to Harveys, but more so because all my friends go. I ALWAYS go under protest. If you ever hear somebody on a Saturday night walking up to Harveys giving out about it, that'll be me, say hi
I'm just over 30 and I'm getting past it now! I love a drink and hell, I still love a good boozing session (although I can't drink for sh*t anymore!
) but I prefer to sit with my friends and talk to them, have a laugh and hear what they have to say! Was in the Uluru on sunday and nobody in there, no music, just a group of us having mighty craic and we could all hear each other and I got to mingle with all the people there (about 10 of us) Normally we in harveys just standing there, looking at each other, because you certainly can't have a conversation!!!
What really gets my goat though, is when people say your boring or getting old because you don't want to go to Harveys/Kazbar/Masons etc, yet the example above happens everytime... you just all stand staring at each other... OH GREAT NIGHT OUT LADS!!! :rolleyes: /sarcasm!
OK, I'm ranting now... 0 -
Time for the unpopular opinion.
First off...if you don't want to go to a bar/late night venue that plays loud music, then don't go, it really is as simple as that. To be fair lads, you're probably nice lads but you really do sound like boring old farts Late night venues in every county in Ireland and every country in the world...will have loudish music etc... Here's what I think...
You actually don't go out very much and when you do go out on a saturday night you don't know a lot of the songs cause they're aimed at the younger people (the people who are going out pretty much every week...keeping the pubs in business) so that annoys ya...you don't like having to queue at the bar...you don't like bumping passed people...essentially you don't like being crowded. You prefer being at home with your few cans...or being in your local where things are nice and relaxed (but the til is not exactly buzzing with the sound of KA-CHING!!)
No offence to youse...I mean I'm actually with yiz in a way...I haven't been out in waterford on a saturday night in many years...i go out during the week...head out early go to as many bars as i can and head home pretty early. 90% of the time I'm not in the mood to be in a crowded venue (what's a crowded venue btw..haven't seen one in years) so I DON'T GO TO ONE! Bang...how easy was that?! I could have gone somewhere I knew that I'd hate...and then come on here on monday morning and complain about it...but that would be a bit thick cause it would be my own fault for going there in the first place.
Another thing...these people who don't go out a lot and then suddenly venture into a busy bar...inevitably they will complain about how long it took them to get a drink...simply because they're comparing it to their local where the barman can easily serve you between his crossword and serving an old man a pint of guinness.
I have no problem with people commenting on bars in the town...but seriously...when you're just bitching about venues cause you don't like them based on your own criteria that mightily conflicts with how a city centre on a saturday night should look...isn't it a bit silly?
Some people seem to think that unless a venue plays every song that they want to hear, and they're served in record time..then it's a dump. It really is incredible.0 -
Back to the OP, you are spot on about The Cove. A group of us went in a few weeks back, and took one look and turned on our heels! Full of trogladites!
As for Geoffs, I personally like it. I agree with some of the other posts about it, entertainment wise and what the staff do is just crap and the have defo made a balls of it by putting crappy loud music in there (and yes, I've often watched them stand and play with that laptop for aggggeeessss!) Other than that, its a grand bar, early in the evening or weeknight.
There are other bars too I just despise:
Revolution = Full of chavs and kids and Flash is an ignorant cnut!
Masons = See above
Harveys = See above, above
Muldoons = Think its closed = Thank f***!
Woodman = MOST legendary bar in town
Wancky Apple = Kip
Kazbar = Nice for a coffee and bit of futty, full of chavs and trainer wearing nobjockies come 8pm... and god forbid should you want to hear yourself think, let alone talk to your friends or order a drink!!!!
Philly Grimes = Nice bar, defo love visits there.
Downses = Love the way its just not changed in years. Can talk to your friends and beer is nice. Oh and Oktoberfest
Uluru = Grand bar, can get a little busy, but gotta love that DJ with the bere I lolz a lot! haha
I could go on, but its heading out of town from here on, where most bars are a lot quieter!
I really can't take someone like you seriously, and I dunno how anyone else could either. (Surprised at Ziedith who I thought had a bit more common sense than that)0 -
abouttobebanned wrote: »Time for the unpopular opinion.
First off...if you don't want to go to a bar/late night venue that plays loud music, then don't go, it really is as simple as that. To be fair lads, you're probably nice lads but you really do sound like boring old farts Late night venues in every county in Ireland and every country in the world...will have loudish music etc... Here's what I think...
You actually don't go out very much and when you do go out on a saturday night you don't know a lot of the songs cause they're aimed at the younger people (the people who are going out pretty much every week...keeping the pubs in business) so that annoys ya...you don't like having to queue at the bar...you don't like bumping passed people...essentially you don't like being crowded. You prefer being at home with your few cans...or being in your local where things are nice and relaxed (but the til is not exactly buzzing with the sound of KA-CHING!!)
No offence to youse...I mean I'm actually with yiz in a way...I haven't been out in waterford on a saturday night in many years...i go out during the week...head out early go to as many bars as i can and head home pretty early. 90% of the time I'm not in the mood to be in a crowded venue (what's a crowded venue btw..haven't seen one in years) so I DON'T GO TO ONE! Bang...how easy was that?! I could have gone somewhere I knew that I'd hate...and then come on here on monday morning and complain about it...but that would be a bit thick cause it would be my own fault for going there in the first place.
Another thing...these people who don't go out a lot and then suddenly venture into a busy bar...inevitably they will complain about how long it took them to get a drink...simply because they're comparing it to their local where the barman can easily serve you between his crossword and serving an old man a pint of guinness.
I have no problem with people commenting on bars in the town...but seriously...when you're just bitching about venues cause you don't like them based on your own criteria that mightily conflicts with how a city centre on a saturday night should look...isn't it a bit silly?
Some people seem to think that unless a venue plays every song that they want to hear, and they're served in record time..then it's a dump. It really is incredible.
I am a boring old fart
I see what your saying and I can handle crowds if the occasion calls for it (I'm going to vegas for my stag and I don't think they have a Downes type pub there ) If I had my way I woldn't go but guess what it comes down to? Women the girls in the group like harveys and the men in the group like the girls and hense here is the problem. Also, and I have said it before that if there are a couple of single lads in your gang you can't very well bring them off a quiet pub the whole time either.
For me its just I like my friends more then I hate busy pubs.abouttobebanned wrote: »I really can't take someone like you seriously, and I dunno how anyone else could either. (Surprised at Ziedith who I thought had a bit more common sense than that)
TBF, even though I wouldn't use exactly the same phrasing he has a point on some of them. The wacky is a kip, Muldoons really went downhill and its these young people i'm so fearful of goto kazbar. I won't goto Revelutions on a persoal note so I can't comment on there.
EDIT: Oh and I just saw now he said about Flash, I do not think that anytime I met him he seemed sound.0 -
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Firstly, you don't have to take me seriously, thats your prerogative, but I'm also entitled to "my" opinion of what I think of the bars. I appreciate every bar is different and you need to cater for all peoples tastes and needs!
I'm not an old fart either, I go out most weekends where possible, but like zenith mentioned, I'm in the same boat, we have friends in their early 20s who enjoy certain bars and also some are single and want to pull :P
We compromise, because I know a few of them don't like Geoffs, but we go there early and usually end up in Harveys (I always have to listen to the usual, it was crap in Harveys last night... and I say, why did we go then) and this will be repeated the next time we head out, but it all comes back to the young'en's wanting to stare at the ladies
As for music, I'll have you know I'm well clued up, and am originally from Manchester and spent MANY, MANY....many a weekend in Cream @ Nation and Gatecrasher in Sheffield, I've done my stint of clubs, bars, music, festivals (which I still do) and not bothered by crowds, but like I said, I like to "talk" to my friends and have some craic now, not scream at that at the top of my voice all night!
Oh and as for Flash (maybe I was a little harsh, but...) I've dealt with him a few times and he'll blank you and ignore you (I brought and awful lot of custom to his bars, via a company social club!!!) and also my missus lived in one of his houses and he refused to clear away the previous tennants rubbish, which was about 15+ bin bags of smelly crap that stank up the court yard, which the kitchen went onto... so I have my reasons :mad:0 -
abouttobebanned wrote: »Time for the unpopular opinion.
First off...if you don't want to go to a bar/late night venue that plays loud music, then don't go, it really is as simple as that. To be fair lads, you're probably nice lads but you really do sound like boring old farts Late night venues in every county in Ireland and every country in the world...will have loudish music etc... Here's what I think...
You actually don't go out very much and when you do go out on a saturday night you don't know a lot of the songs cause they're aimed at the younger people (the people who are going out pretty much every week...keeping the pubs in business) so that annoys ya...you don't like having to queue at the bar...you don't like bumping passed people...essentially you don't like being crowded. You prefer being at home with your few cans...or being in your local where things are nice and relaxed (but the til is not exactly buzzing with the sound of KA-CHING!!)
No offence to youse...I mean I'm actually with yiz in a way...I haven't been out in waterford on a saturday night in many years...i go out during the week...head out early go to as many bars as i can and head home pretty early. 90% of the time I'm not in the mood to be in a crowded venue (what's a crowded venue btw..haven't seen one in years) so I DON'T GO TO ONE! Bang...how easy was that?! I could have gone somewhere I knew that I'd hate...and then come on here on monday morning and complain about it...but that would be a bit thick cause it would be my own fault for going there in the first place.
Another thing...these people who don't go out a lot and then suddenly venture into a busy bar...inevitably they will complain about how long it took them to get a drink...simply because they're comparing it to their local where the barman can easily serve you between his crossword and serving an old man a pint of guinness.
I have no problem with people commenting on bars in the town...but seriously...when you're just bitching about venues cause you don't like them based on your own criteria that mightily conflicts with how a city centre on a saturday night should look...isn't it a bit silly?
Some people seem to think that unless a venue plays every song that they want to hear, and they're served in record time..then it's a dump. It really is incredible.
I'm sorry but that's a lbit ridiculous to be fair.
The bit I highlighted in bold kind of sums up where you're coming form with that whole post so I'll address that. Why would someone judge a venue without applying their own criteria? We can all look at Harvey's and say "it suits a certain crowd" but you are still allowed to have your own personal opinion on it.
It's obvious that the people who post on this forum aren't the crowd that a lot of the late venues are aimed at. But that doesn't make our opinions on the city's nightlife irrelevant. There seems to be a lot of us that agree on the type of late venue we'd like to see. I don't think I'd be overreaching to say that there's a lot of people who end up in places they don't want to go because they don't feel like ending their night at 12 o'clock. They're forced to take their pick of a bad lot of influenced by others within a group (like Ziedth always says).
But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be served in some kind of decent timeframe. You seem to suggest that it's just a fact of life and we should all get on with it. Just because something is a certain way does not mean it's right.
And that's the entire jist of my own little rant here. Just because the city's nightlife is a certain way does not mean it's right and that those of us who feel it isn't right can't express our opinions on it.0 -
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I do see this (You angry bastard)
I suppose I'm speaking from a realistic, bar's point of view. Pretend for a second, that you own a busy late bar on a saturday night...how would you run it differently to how the bars at the moment are currently being run?
Rubys tried to launch an over 25s club recently and it died on its arse. People who run bars wil always read comments from someone like yourself and think..."you know...doggonnit...that chap is right...we need to have a bar for people like ourselves...who just want a late drink..be able to hear ourselves and what music we can hear is not boom boom and fuk me nigga this and suck that"
So...they open that bar...and first night...18 girls arrive in on a hen night - can't turn em away...they're going to drink all the high margin products like cocktails and shots. They're straight up to the DJ looking for some latest crap from the charts or girls just wanna have fun. What is the DJ, who's currently playing The Stone Roses, to do? Sorry girls...that's not what we're about in here. "Ok" the girls say..."we're out of here!"
I do think that a lot of bar djs could be a lot more selective with their music though, to try and keep more people happy...but don't underestimate how nasty girls can be if a DJ takes a break from commercial stuff and plays something a little more eclectic. People WILL leave if the DJ tries to get too clever. It's a catch 22 situation for the DJ, and also the bar owner.
Out of curiousity...would anyone (mods or anyone else) object to me starting a thread asking people to take the role of a Bar owner and go into as much detail as possible about what kind of bar they would create?0 -
abouttobebanned wrote: »I do see this (You angry bastard)
I suppose I'm speaking from a realistic, bar's point of view. Pretend for a second, that you own a busy late bar on a saturday night...how would you run it differently to how the bars at the moment are currently being run?
Rubys tried to launch an over 25s club recently and it died on its arse. People who run bars wil always read comments from someone like yourself and think..."you know...doggonnit...that chap is right...we need to have a bar for people like ourselves...who just want a late drink..be able to hear ourselves and what music we can hear is not boom boom and fuk me nigga this and suck that"
So...they open that bar...and first night...18 girls arrive in on a hen night - can't turn em away...they're going to drink all the high margin products like cocktails and shots. They're straight up to the DJ looking for some latest crap from the charts or girls just wanna have fun. What is the DJ, who's currently playing The Stone Roses, to do? Sorry girls...that's not what we're about in here. "Ok" the girls say..."we're out of here!"
I do think that a lot of bar djs could be a lot more selective with their music though, to try and keep more people happy...but don't underestimate how nasty girls can be if a DJ takes a break from commercial stuff and plays something a little more eclectic. People WILL leave if the DJ tries to get too clever. It's a catch 22 situation for the DJ, and also the bar owner.
Out of curiousity...would anyone (mods or anyone else) object to me starting a thread asking people to take the role of a Bar owner and go into as much detail as possible about what kind of bar they would create?
Sounds to me like we're on the same page so!
I completely understand the business perspective on it and it all makes sense. It's just that I don't think that means people shouldn't let their feelings be known.
While it might not work on a practical business level, it's still nice to hink of the pub you'd open if money wasn't an issue and you didn't have to bend to the will of the masses; if you could set a place up a certain way and not have to dilute it down. The fact is that it's easiest to make money by making somewhere like Ruby's or Harvey's or whatever and at the end of the say, they're businesses and the bottom line is king.0 -
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