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A strategy to revitalize Dublin's economy -what do you think?

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  • 02-03-2010 1:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 29


    Like the rest of the world, Dublin has recently experienced the effects of the global economic downturn. The Draft Dublin City Development Plan contains a wide range of policies aimed at revitalising the economy to counter these effects and build long-term success for the city. These include:

    - Creating three distinct economic corridors in the city region
    - Providing appropriate office and commercial space for the knowledge economy
    - Continuing regeneration and using it to improve competitiveness
    - Creating economic, cultural and institutional clusters to spur collaboration and innovation across the city
    - Branding Dublin internationally as an ‘Innovation City’
    - Promoting tourism as a key driver for the city’s economy

    Chapter 9 of the Development Plan is called “Revitalising the City’s Economy.” It outlines these and many other proposed actions for the city over the next six years. You can read a short summary of the chapter or download the original here. And you can view an interactive map that illustrates the proposed economic corridors here.

    What do you think of the ideas suggested? What would you like to see implemented in the city to help revitalize the economy and protect / create jobs?

    Have your say on these boards or make a written submission directly to Dublin City Council using the online submission form here.


    Dublin City Council's 'Draft Development Plan, 2011-2017' is currently open for public consultation. The plan explains City Council strategy on everything from allotments and accommodation for artists to new economic corridors, new neighbourhoods, green spaces and low rise buildings.

    We’re encouraging Dubliners to look at the Draft Plan, discuss any issues on these boards and make a comment directly to Dublin City Council via the online submission form.

    You can find out more at www.dublincitydevelopmentplan.ie, where there are videos, text summaries and an interactive map of Dublin in 2017. All feedback will be reviewed before the plan is adopted by the City Council at the end of the year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    In my opinion the key factor hindering the growth of Dublins (and in turn, the countries) economy is not to do with what is happening within the city centre itself, but what is happening outside the city.

    Dublin exists as a singular area of high density living, but only a few minutes outside the city centre in every direction is a massive reduction in the density of residential space.

    Ireland is one big suburb. And where there are apartment complexes, they are often gated, disconnected from the city and giving hardly any support to local small businesses. The majority of Dublins workforce leaves the city come 5 o'clock, for a long commute back to their housing estate - again where there is no support for small local businesses, no community spirit, no culture and no life or vitality.

    When you have a long commuting, car dependent population there is little way to bring life back in to a city and give small businesses more support. Dublin needs a much bigger emphasis on higher density living, and the combination of residential and commercial space spreading from the city centre outwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭sron


    A bit of a non-sequitor, but could you please work some public toilets into this master plan. Surely an "innovative" and "knowledge economy" based European capital should have at least some public facilities. It annoys me and I imagine it bothers the tourists also. If undesireables are really that much of a problem, lock them up at 6 o'clock.

    Also, lower rents and higher-density housing (as explained above) would be nice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭wittymoniker


    +1, but even bins on the streets would be a start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Like the rest of the world, Dublin has recently experienced the effects of the global economic downturn. The Draft Dublin City Development Plan contains a wide range of policies aimed at revitalising the economy to counter these effects and build long-term success for the city. These include:

    - Creating three distinct economic corridors in the city region
    - Providing appropriate office and commercial space for the knowledge economy
    - Continuing regeneration and using it to improve competitiveness
    - Creating economic, cultural and institutional clusters to spur collaboration and innovation across the city
    - Branding Dublin internationally as an ‘Innovation City’
    - Promoting tourism as a key driver for the city’s economy

    Chapter 9 of the Development Plan is called “Revitalising the City’s Economy.” It outlines these and many other proposed actions for the city over the next six years. You can read a short summary of the chapter or download the original here. And you can view an interactive map that illustrates the proposed economic corridors here.

    What do you think of the ideas suggested? What would you like to see implemented in the city to help revitalize the economy and protect / create jobs?

    Have your say on these boards or make a written submission directly to Dublin City Council using the online submission form here.



    Dublin City Council's 'Draft Development Plan, 2011-2017' is currently open for public consultation. The plan explains City Council strategy on everything from allotments and accommodation for artists to new economic corridors, new neighbourhoods, green spaces and low rise buildings.

    We’re encouraging Dubliners to look at the Draft Plan, discuss any issues on these boards and make a comment directly to Dublin City Council via the online submission form.

    You can find out more at www.dublincitydevelopmentplan.ie, where there are videos, text summaries and an interactive map of Dublin in 2017. All feedback will be reviewed before the plan is adopted by the City Council at the end of the year.


    I think it was the late 90's where Dublin was Europes most popular destination for city breaks, do you know where it ranks now? If you want to revitalise Dublin through tourism it has to be external.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    Rates have been the straw the broke the camels back for 2 neighbouring business next my company. They were just about staying open for business but the rates forced them to pack it in.

    Rates are effectively money for nothing and the days of getting money for nothing are gone. Small and medium business are finding it difficult to produce enough to cover the rates and pay bills / wages / stay competitive. One of the business next to us was down to using 1 eight of his warehouse space but was being charged the full rate. He hadn't got the money to pay the rates and he eventually closed up under threat from the sheriff.

    If you want to revitalize dublins economy then stop blanket taxing small business out of existence.All that does is leave more buildings empty, more rents not paid, more mortgages not paid, more bad debt in the banks and more people claiming state benefit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    I don't think you can talk about setting up business zones and redevelopment without talking about public transportation. Creating an INTEGRATED rapid transit system that 1) would make it easier to get around the city and 2) linked commercial districts to underdeveloped residential areas could spur job growth, redevelopment and business clustering simultaneously. In Boston and Washington DC, the extension of the Metro/T subway system to previously marginalized areas helped spur their redevelopment. This has been particularly dramatic in DC; ten years later, many of these areas have seen an influx of young professionals who previously would have lived in suburban areas...and young professionals are often high earners who consume a lot without making many demands on public services (besides transport).

    As for tourism, given the high cost of eating out and the insane taxes on flying in and out of Ireland, Dublin is a far less attractive tourist destination than, say, Madrid. In the Dublin city center, you pay 3 euro for a Coke and 6 euro for a pint...two drinks for 9 euros!!! In the Madrid city center, for 9 euros you can get a three course meal that includes beer or wine and a bread basket. I'm not sure what is to blame for the out of whack prices in Dublin (Celtic Tiger hangover, taxes, high rent, etc), but the prices here are extremely uncompetitive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    As for tourism, given the high cost of eating out and the insane taxes on flying in and out of Ireland, Dublin is a far less attractive tourist destination than, say, Madrid. In the Dublin city center, you pay 3 euro for a Coke and 6 euro for a pint...two drinks for 9 euros!!! In the Madrid city center, for 9 euros you can get a three course meal that includes beer or wine and a bread basket. I'm not sure what is to blame for the out of whack prices in Dublin (Celtic Tiger hangover, taxes, high rent, etc), but the prices here are extremely uncompetitive.

    slightly OT:) : the "menu del dia" ( 3 course meal "con bibita" ) that you get in Madrid is great ( I was on 2 a day when I was on holidays there )..

    Its apparently something that was started by General Franco ( the spanish dictator ). It was introduced to stop spanish workers from going home for long lunch breaks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    continuing on the madrid theme.

    Madrileno nightlife is something we could take a few lessons from.

    In madrid the bars and clubs seem to stay open all night.

    my days of staying out all night are over now but I have been talking to foreigners who are having a great time at say 1 o' clock in the morning in Dublin and they say where is good to go afterwards ?

    within the "entertainment district" there should be places that stay open later than the current 3 o'clock curfew.. especially on friday or saturday nights.

    In Madrileno bars if you order a drink you will typically be given a small snack ( nuts, olives or anchovies ) in an Irish bar you get Nada with your drink. maybe this is something that could be brought into Irish bar culture.

    Dublin is famous for "the craic" , there are loads of hotel rooms in the city, loads of taxis to get people around.

    In summary perhaps the licencing laws ( dance and drinking ) could be relaxed / liberalised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 DCC Planning Secretariat


    The closing date for receipt of submissions on the Draft Development Plan was last Friday, March 12th. We’d like to thank everyone who got involved in the discussion and especially those who posted replies or made submissions about the plan.

    The next step is the preparation of a report on the submissions/observations received. This will be submitted to members of the City Council who will consider it until mid-August 2010. Any material amendments agreed to the Draft Plan will then be put on public display for four weeks. It is envisaged that this display will take place during September.

    We’ll post notification of the dates closer to the time. In the meantime, keep an eye on www.dublincitydevelopmentplan.ie and www.dublincity.ie for updates on what’s happening.

    Regards,
    The Development Plan Team


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    The closing date for receipt of submissions on the Draft Development Plan was last Friday, March 12th. We’d like to thank everyone who got involved in the discussion and especially those who posted replies or made submissions about the plan.

    The next step is the preparation of a report on the submissions/observations received. This will be submitted to members of the City Council who will consider it until mid-August 2010. Any material amendments agreed to the Draft Plan will then be put on public display for four weeks. It is envisaged that this display will take place during September.

    We’ll post notification of the dates closer to the time. In the meantime, keep an eye on www.dublincitydevelopmentplan.ie and www.dublincity.ie for updates on what’s happening.

    Regards,
    The Development Plan Team

    Any chance of a Twitter account to keep people updated? Nobodies going to be checking your website every day for updates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 DCC Planning Secretariat


    Hi Cianos,

    Both sites are on Twitter too. For updates, follow either @DubCityDevPlan or @DubCityCouncil.

    Regards,
    The Development Plan Team


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