*Limerick GAA news/discussion thread*

Vanolder

We are going to murder these banjo playing, tin whistle loving hill billies come Sunday... Limerick by 8!

savannahkat

Vanolder wrote: »

We are going to murder these banjo playing, tin whistle loving hill billies come Sunday... Limerick by 8!

When is the last time Limerick won any game by 8? :eek:

glasagusban

savannahkat wrote: »

When is the last time Limerick won any game by 8? :eek:

Wexford.

Fireball07

Well, we beat Antrim by 8 in the league but Wexford in the Championship. A lot more than 8 it was too.

Last time we won a Munster Championship game by 8+ was the Munster final in 2013.

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Well, we beat Antrim by 8 in the league but Wexford in the Championship. A lot more than 8 it was too.

Last time we won a Munster Championship game by 8+ was the Munster final in 2013.

But that like wexford imo as two semi finals after proved limerick were never that good in cork down a man scorching heat for full half hurling
What's significant is for full hour just two between them before cork tired and limerick bench won the day

Team announced pretty soon it will tell a lot about Sunday

If Condon o brien start and lynch huge huge chance

thinkstoomuch1

glasagusban wrote: »

Wexford.

I'd be cautious using that game imo
A tired wexford four games on the trot in a month so as proven games after not a real barometer as limerick were as good as wexford game wouldn't be poor games after

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

But that like wexford imo as two semi finals after proved limerick were never that good in cork down a man scorching heat for full half hurling
What's significant is for full hour just two between them before cork tired and limerick bench won the day

Team announced pretty soon it will tell a lot about Sunday

If Condon o brien start and lynch huge huge chance

Still think we would have won that day, our bench was much stronger than Cork on the day who resorted to the likes of Cussen. Would never have won by 9 obviously, but at home, with the likes of Dowling, Downes & Moran in reserve; weren't going to lose.


Condon is 100% going to start, one of the first names on the teamsheet. Lynch will start too, everything points to it. I'm fairly sure Seanie will start but that would be an actual big call... he would have leapfrogged a few players.


I don't think we'll actually beat Clare by 8, it's going to be close. I picked 1-5 in the poll and I do think we'll do it.

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Still think we would have won that day, our bench was much stronger than Cork on the day who resorted to the likes of Cussen. Would never have won by 9 obviously, but at home, with the likes of Dowling, Downes & Moran in reserve; weren't going to lose.


Condon is 100% going to start, one of the first names on the teamsheet. Lynch will start too, everything points to it. I'm fairly sure Seanie will start but that would be an actual big call... he would have leapfrogged a few players.


I don't think we'll actually beat Clare by 8, it's going to be close. I picked 1-5 in the poll and I do think we'll do it.

A brave bold selection that has to be admired if it happens and really postive for limerick

zombieHanalei

Getting the selection right is an important step but will mean nothing if we don't get the tactical set up right, encouraging signs in challenge games that something is being done but I just wish they did this during the league. I'm not confident but at the same time I still feel it's very much there for the taking.

I'm not overly concerned if we lose because we'd have a good six weeks to take stock and set about making whatever changes need to be made before the qualifiers begin.

I'm mainly concerned now in seeing what changes TJ makes in terms of how the team is set up and can he be a bit more ruthless when it comes to selection/substitutions. He's had the legitimate excuse of relative inexperience at this level for the last year but that doesn't really wash anymore; he's had sole charge for 13 months now, plenty of time to put his stamp on it and plenty of time to learn. I believe he is the right man, and I desperately hope not to be proven wrong in the coming weeks.

thinkstoomuch1

zombieHanalei wrote: »

Getting the selection right is an important step but will mean nothing if we don't get the tactical set up right, encouraging signs in challenge games that something is being done but I just wish they did this during the league. I'm not confident but at the same time I still feel it's very much there for the taking.

I'm not overly concerned if we lose because we'd have a good six weeks to take stock and set about making whatever changes need to be made before the qualifiers begin.

I'm mainly concerned now in seeing what changes TJ makes in terms of how the team is set up and can he be a bit more ruthless when it comes to selection/substitutions. He's had the legitimate excuse of relative inexperience at this level for the last year but that doesn't really wash anymore; he's had sole charge for 13 months now, plenty of time to put his stamp on it and plenty of time to learn. I believe he is the right man, and I desperately hope not to be proven wrong in the coming weeks.

A brilliant brilliant post
I said this all week myself picking lads is the ist step but not having a coherent effective plan with full utilisation of its strength and durability of team to negate weak ness is absolutely crucial Sunday and I also believe that as o said before there's going to be a crucial turning point in the game management have to react by changing the system or dynamic of play or making key subs during the game so like a jig saw was never built on one pieces all the pieces have to join together for limerick to win

Mountainlad

glasagusban wrote: »

Wexford.

Yer second last championship game, and your mans alleged second favourite team allegedly. Yell beat Clare anyway.

mickmackey1

Very sceptical about it, all the evidence points to this Clare generation being superior to ours. But hope springs eternal!

slegs

Team announced

1. Barry Hennessy (Kilmallock), 2. Stephen Walsh (Glenroe), 3. Richie McCarthy (Blackrock), 4. Seamus Hickey (Murroe Boher), 5. Seanie O Brien (Patrickswell), 6. Gavin O Mahony (Kilmallock), 7. Tom Condon (Knockaderry), 8. James Ryan (Garryspillane), 9. Paudie O Brien (Kilmallock), 10. Donal O Grady (Granagh Ballingarry)(Captain), 11. Declan Hannon (Adare), 12. Paul Browne (Bruff), 13. Graeme Mulcahy (Kilmallock), 14. Shane Dowling (Na Piarsaigh) 15. Cian Lynch (Patrickswell).

thinkstoomuch1

slegs wrote: »

Team announced

1. Barry Hennessy (Kilmallock), 2. Stephen Walsh (Glenroe), 3. Richie McCarthy (Blackrock), 4. Seamus Hickey (Murroe Boher), 5. Seanie O Brien (Patrickswell), 6. Gavin O Mahony (Kilmallock), 7. Tom Condon (Knockaderry), 8. James Ryan (Garryspillane), 9. Paudie O Brien (Kilmallock), 10. Donal O Grady (Granagh Ballingarry)(Captain), 11. Declan Hannon (Adare), 12. Paul Browne (Bruff), 13. Graeme Mulcahy (Kilmallock), 14. Shane Dowling (Na Piarsaigh) 15. Cian Lynch (Patrickswell).

Ist part done brilliant brilliant team imo
I'd have tom Ryan at seven but still better than mac
Injury actually strengthen ye imo
Ye have a real real chance if tactics compliment the team
I rarely if ever under Ryan terms felt confidence team selection as many know but credit due I'm confident that team

Fireball07

Expected team, and quite a good one.


But as Hanalei says, the tactics are arguably more important. But that team would seem to be set up to play a certain way, a way we didn't play during the league this year and a way that could lead to an improvement from last year.

thinkstoomuch1

http://m.limerickleader.ie/sport/limerick-sport/three-newcomers-in-limerick-hurling-team-to-play-clare-in-munster-shc-1-6758155
I think there's nothing between hennessy and Murphy and it's close call
It's evident to see why margie questioned selection as mentioned on surname limerick in hennessy father was sub twenty one years ago
The one worry slightly is margie was right that hennessy be keeper so fact team was known in advance and leaked our two days before announcement worry you have is the circle trust now broken and Murphy sub keeper Sunday


If this happenes like clare weeks ago it had time to heal but fact broke week match very interesting how it is sorted as if limerick loose this story will gather momentum is the likelihood

What she basically said was politics are at fore limerick hurling and while imo goal keeper issues was tough call I did raise issue before that certain lads were being picked
Lynch and course o brien great calls but it's valid to say would Wayne mac breen fully fit started as all changes have been enforced through injury mainly and while it work to advantage Sunday it imo still give me unconvincing view limerick really changed but style play set up to sweep but must be possession orientated game
If limerick win or loose tactics huge part and imo have to win in light tweet and clare weak team limerick loose no guarantee two players coming back strenghten limerick to any real degree so this is must must win and while it's for Davy is so he probably due injuries has bit immunity imo


We won't know til Sunday has the circle of trust within limerick been affected by Tuesday news
Circle of trust is vital within any team or group and it's easily broken but not as easy to fix
It takes time as time heals all but limerick don't have that time this week



Limerick have not a sports phycologist but a guy motivation skills helping this group and tj said after a game he wasn't at liberty to say more which is fair enough
He'll earn he's cord now this week to rebind the circle of trust

Mehapoy

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://m.limerickleader.ie/sport/limerick-sport/three-newcomers-in-limerick-hurling-team-to-play-clare-in-munster-shc-1-6758155
I think there's nothing between hennessy and Murphy and it's close call
It's evident to see why margie questioned selection as mentioned on surname limerick in hennessy father was sub twenty one years ago
The one worry slightly is margie was right that hennessy be keeper so fact team was known in advance and leaked our two days before announcement worry you have is the circle trust now broken and Murphy sub keeper Sunday


If this happenes like clare weeks ago it had time to heal but fact broke week match very interesting how it is sorted as if limerick loose this story will gather momentum is the likelihood

What she basically said was politics are at fore limerick hurling and while imo goal keeper issues was tough call I did raise issue before that certain lads were being picked
Lynch and course o brien great calls but it's valid to say would Wayne mac breen fully fit started as all changes have been enforced through injury mainly and while it work to advantage Sunday it imo still give me unconvincing view limerick really changed but style play set up to sweep but must be possession orientated game
If limerick win or loose tactics huge part and imo have to win in light tweet and clare weak team limerick loose no guarantee two players coming back strenghten limerick to any real degree so this is must must win and while it's for Davy is so he probably due injuries has bit immunity imo


We won't know til Sunday has the circle of trust within limerick been affected by Tuesday news
Circle of trust is vital within any team or group and it's easily broken but not as easy to fix
It takes time as time heals all but limerick don't have that time this week



Limerick have not a sports phycologist but a guy motivation skills helping this group and tj said after a game he wasn't at liberty to say more which is fair enough
He'll earn he's cord now this week to rebind the circle of trust

Players are told the team the weekend before, stop trying to make an issue out of nothing...

thinkstoomuch1

Mehapoy wrote: »

Players are told the team the weekend before, stop trying to make an issue out of nothing...

I'm not trying to make an issue at all
This story broke Tuesday I didn't break the story
I'm asking a valid question that's all
You're fast enough to discuss Davy incidents in clare thread but when limerick we cant discuss such incidents
I asked a reasonable question that I ask any team same scenario will this affect the build up in any great way

paddy no 11

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'm not trying to make an issue at all
This story broke Tuesday I didn't break the story
I'm asking a valid question that's all
You're fast enough to discuss Davy incidents in clare thread but when limerick we cant discuss such incidents
I asked a reasonable question that I ask any team same scenario will this affect the build up in any great way

I dont think some fella telling his mother at the dinner table that he isnt starting sunday constitutes a break of trust. who we selected in goals wasnt keeping davy awake at night.

thinkstoomuch1

paddy no 11 wrote: »

I dont think some fella telling his mother at the dinner table that he isnt starting sunday constitutes a break of trust. who we selected in goals wasnt keeping davy awake at night.

I don't think that's the question at all and I agree with you as players knew weekend
It's the fact team was with keeper position announced public Tuesday by tweet and team wasn't named officially til Thursday and it's the fact that there was concerns over politics in selection being said
And the circle of trust obviously will come in to question
It may be all fine but if they loose Sunday it's not unreasonable to say in some quarters story won't gather momentum
Even few posters here said on Tuesday that it wasn't ideal that news break publicly in who start as keeper when it's obvious the management didn't want that or of they did wouldn't waited till last night to announce the team publicly
I don't think and agree totally Davy isn't bothered with this at all as he's no reason to be it's the circle of trust within limerick group is the concern now from this story

glasagusban

Hannon is 33/1 for HOTY. If he can recreate his form of the latter half of last season and maintain it...

thinkstoomuch1

glasagusban wrote: »

Hannon is 33/1 for HOTY. If he can recreate his form of the latter half of last season and maintain it...

What's cian lynch for young hurler of the year please ?

Twoman Fullbackline

I'd sooner have Richie McCarthy at 50/1 than Hannon. Shane O'Donnell at 40/1 is also a tempting one. However I'm not sure I'd bet on either side to make it all the way to September at this point.

Cian Lynch 12/1 for YHOTY

thinkstoomuch1

Twoman Fullbackline wrote: »

I'd sooner have Richie McCarthy at 50/1 than Hannon. Shane O'Donnell at 40/1 is also a tempting one. However I'm not sure I'd bet on either side to make it all the way to September at this point.

Cian Lynch 12/1 for YHOTY

Thanks for that

pajoguy

So Conor Mcgrath is 13-2 first goal scorer sunday. Paddy power must be in the know!
Lycnh a good bet at 10-1 but i suppose he will be more in the half forward line if we play two man inside.

Fireball07

pajoguy wrote: »

So Conor Mcgrath is 13-2 first goal scorer sunday. Paddy power must be in the know!
Lycnh a good bet at 10-1 but i suppose he will be more in the half forward line if we play two man inside.

Paddy never change their FGS odds if a player is expected to be out.


Lynch for YHOTY is a good bet imo.

Deise_2012

Fireball07 wrote: »

Paddy never change their FGS odds if a player is expected to be out.


Lynch for YHOTY is a good bet imo.

save your money and go for Tadhg Bourke

Fireball07

Deise_2012 wrote: »

save your money and go for Tadhg Bourke

Well yeah, he'd be the favourite in my eyes. Lynch's odds are a lot better though and I have to believe we'll get to the final so he'll have the chance to showcase his abilities.

Deise_2012

Fireball07 wrote: »

Well yeah, he'd be the favourite in my eyes. Lynch's odds are a lot better though and I have to believe we'll get to the final so he'll have the chance to showcase his abilities.

I'm only messing with ya, I'm tempted to go for Cian Lynch also, the lad has broke my heart at the last two munster minor finals. Top class player ye have. But...what's he at in that video on youtube "i am hurling"...haha

Fireball07

Deise_2012 wrote: »

I'm only messing with ya, I'm tempted to go for Cian Lynch also, the lad has broke my heart at the last two munster minor finals. Top class player ye have. But...what's he at in that video on youtube "i am hurling"...haha

I'm sure if I was a Waterford man, I'd have my money on De Burca or Gleeson; I think De Burca is top class.


As for the video, we'll let him off he's only young :pac: