*Limerick GAA news/discussion thread*

Hockied

paddy no 11 wrote: »

The wider GAA needs to have a serious look at what is going on regards the demands on players at county level.

Professional managers are demanding professionalism of players, this is being got round by students making up half a panel or players being employed by county boards or dubiously by sponsors. This is wide open to corruption and will only end badly for these great games.

There are huge questions out there regarding certain managers, panels and county boards that no one is lifting the lid on but it will have to come eventually addressing it sooner rather than later is the thing to do

Very good points , I agree totally . Rugby and soccer profesdionals are fetting adequate rest following similiarly demanding training. GAA players are going to work or college . No rest there. How do their bodies recover?

There is also a trend of lads with connections getting a place on panel or team despite poor performance.

On another note Barry Nash is going to be a huge loss. Whats going on to make him leave? He seemed so dedicated. Also I am suprised that barry o connell didnt make it. I had high hopes for him. He had a bad game against cork as did all around him and that was that. One chance and out. Surprised really given all the chances gearoid hegarty is getting to prove himself and the morrisseys. I really really hope that we are getting past this 'old boys club' stuff and we concentrate on developing a decent senior team using the best we have.

paddy no 11

The nash thing is related to the professional thing, we was doing what young fellas do but given the levels of professionalism in the GAA that isn't allowed these days.

On hegarty, kiely had him as centre back on his under 21 team so assume he got every chance.

With dowling downes nash and egan unavailable for one reason or another that leaves us short of ball winning half forwards which is presumably why hegarty is staying at half forward

flutered

they need to spread wexford the wing forwards need to sstay out by the side lines, judging by the kilkenny game they have not changed their style of pulling and dragging, a good limerick team lost to them many years ago by playing into wexfords hands and style

flutered

shockframe wrote: »

To be fair the sacrifices a management team makes is all too easily forgotten about too.

they ddo not have exams to pass, travel to training then back to collage, collage games also, they are young and not really battle hardned, something has to give

commonsense.

paddy no 11 wrote:

The nash thing is related to the professional thing, we was doing what young fellas do but given the levels of professionalism in the GAA that isn't allowed these days.

So he hasn't "withdrawn from the panel for personal reasons"?

Rightwing

commonsense. wrote: »

So he hasn't "withdrawn from the panel for personal reasons"?

He has. Some people here talk so much rubbish. Now he made a mistake but then had a falling out, as it was dealt with badly and amateurishly. More players may go.

I will add I'm not surprised. We are in the year 2017, not the 1970s. Management can't treat players like kids. Damning indictment of the set up.

mickmackey1

Rightwing wrote: »

He has. Some people here talk so much rubbish. Now he made a mistake but then had a falling out, as it was dealt with badly and amateurishly. More players may go.

I will add I'm not surprised. We are in the year 2017, not the 1970s. Management can't treat players like kids. Damning indictment of the set up.

You haven't got the foggiest idea what the background is, stop talking garbage.

Rightwing

mickmackey1 wrote: »

You haven't got the foggiest idea what the background is, stop talking garbage.

This makes me laugh. It's just about as accurate as all of your other posts i.e. complete and utter drivel.

The reason I have such doubts about this current set is precisely because I have the inside information.

Hockied

paddy no 11 wrote: »

The nash thing is related to the professional thing, we was doing what young fellas do but given the levels of professionalism in the GAA that isn't allowed these days.

On hegarty, kiely had him as centre back on his under 21 team so assume he got every chance.

With dowling downes nash and egan unavailable for one reason or another that leaves us short of ball winning half forwards which is presumably why hegarty is staying at half forward

Kiely had hegarty at wing back under 21. He was o.k there. Half back line strength mainly came from byrnes on other wing and o connell at centre back.

It is madness if nash thing was a result of a night out or something. Are these young lads supposed to live at all or just bypass their 20's and make an amateur game their life. If they were allowed enjoy hurling again they might live up to their potential.

Rightwing

Hockied wrote: »

Kiely had hegarty at wing back under 21. He was o.k there. Half back line strength mainly came from byrnes on other wing and o connell at centre back.

It is madness if nash thing was a result of a night out or something. Are these young lads supposed to live at all or just bypass their 20's and make an amateur game their life. If they were allowed enjoy hurling again they might live up to their potential.

A couple of nights out.

lim4ev

Rightwing wrote: »

This makes me laugh. It's just about as accurate as all of your other posts i.e. complete and utter drivel.

The reason I have such doubts about this current set is precisely because I have the inside information.

I don't know what inside info you have but I was at the game on Sunday in doon and everyone around us anyway commented on the level of commitment the players showed if more were to follow as you suggest could happen they sure as hell put in some effort on Sunday to be walking away so that won't be happening (I hope!)

Re the Nash situation I think the whole system is gone crazy when a lad can't drink a few pints if that was the problem

commonsense.

Did Nash walk or was he dropped for disciplinary reasons?

Rightwing

lim4ev wrote: »

I don't know what inside info you have but I was at the game on Sunday in doon and everyone around us anyway commented on the level of commitment the players showed if more were to follow as you suggest could happen they sure as hell put in some effort on Sunday to be walking away so that won't be happening (I hope!)

Re the Nash situation I think the whole system is gone crazy when a lad can't drink a few pints if that was the problem

Absolutely agree. Lot of the players have been complaining for quite sometime that there is too much work involved (5 days between match, training and gym work), and training too hard.

commonsense. wrote: »

Did Nash walk or was he dropped for disciplinary reasons?

Both.

elastico

Another generation fcuked by the sounds of things.

flutered

elastico wrote: »

Another generation fcuked by the sounds of things.

not really, there has been a socialising for the want of a better word in limerick hurling with donkeys years, what has it done, the old saying comes to mind, when you enlist you must march and the bargain is not to grumble

cnoc

Should John Kiely have ignored the "so-called supporters"? I think he should have said nothing about it. I also find it very strange that he has set no goals to achieve with the team.

flutered

did he not say that his first priority was to get out of div 2

mickmackey1

cnoc wrote: »

Should John Kiely have ignored the "so-called supporters"? I think he should have said nothing about it. I also find it very strange that he has set no goals to achieve with the team.

If anything, the supporters who travel down to a Mickey mouse match are the real supporters, unlike the summer bandwagon-hoppers. Things are getting off to a predictably contentious start, but then we are Limerick

paddy no 11

On Nash apparently he wasn't up to it against cork and a couple of scores from him would have got the win, he let the side down and got called out on it by his teammates he had to leave

Jack O' Shea was sitting in the pub at 19 years of age and someone said you can either be a great Kerry footballer or a great Kerry drinker, im sure he's happy with his choice

Rightwing

cnoc wrote: »

Should John Kiely have ignored the "so-called supporters"? I think he should have said nothing about it. I also find it very strange that he has set no goals to achieve with the team.

Yes he should, but some fans were very abusive and out of order, but the ire was directed mainly at him and not the players.

He has, (whether it's public or not I'm unsure - might be trying to keep pressure off).

Stated goals:

Year 1: Promotion.
Year 2: AI semi final appearance.
Year 3: Win the AI.

If he achieves these, I will admit to being wrong and will apologise accordingly, although we should be targetting the Munster this year, easy draw.

washman3

Rightwing wrote: »

Yes he should, but some fans were very abusive and out of order, but the ire was directed mainly at him and not the players.

He has, (whether it's public or not I'm unsure - might be trying to keep pressure off)..

It was a tiny minority TBH, most people at the game weren't even aware of it.
Kiely is probably angry because he saw the game for what it was, a glorified challenge match and played virtually a second string team. Might even known at the time that it was odds on that both teams would meet again in the final as Clare weren't really interested in playing Cork again.
We saw in the rematch when he picked a strong side that things were completely different, Cork failed to score a goal until deep in injury time.
These clowns are probably the same few that booed Anthony Foley in Thomond Park last year and threw a banana at a black Man. City player when they were here for a friendly some time back. They live for days like that.

flutered

Rightwing wrote: »

Yes he should, but some fans were very abusive and out of order, but the ire was directed mainly at him and not the players.

He has, (whether it's public or not I'm unsure - might be trying to keep pressure off).

Stated goals:

Year 1: Promotion.
Year 2: AI semi final appearance.
Year 3: Win the AI.

If he achieves these, I will admit to being wrong and will apologise accordingly, although we should be targetting the Munster this year, easy draw.

promotion is required to win anything, as it will pit limerick against the strong teams every second week in next years league, the team cannot learn or make progression playing weak teams, if they cannot be the big frog in a small pool what chance have they against the big frogs in the big pool

Hockied

commonsense. wrote: »

Did Nash walk or was he dropped for disciplinary reasons?

He walked. He was approached and asked about reports of drinking after final with cork
which he denies and who knows may be false or over cooked.

Copper_pipe

Limerick 0-10 Wexford 0-4 at half time

Wexford have the breeze in the second half.

Rightwing

Wexford well in control.

Copper_pipe

Beat 1-14 to 14 points

Rightwing

Dreadful defeat.

In previous campaigns we were missing players from Na Piarsaigh etc. We'll finish this league in 3rd position.

Still, we must credit a limited Wexford and Davy Fitz. He won the battle hands down.

cabledude

Rightwing wrote: »

Dreadful defeat.

In previous campaigns we were missing players from Na Piarsaigh etc. We'll finish this league in 3rd position.

Still, we must credit a limited Wexford and Davy Fitz. He won the battle hands down.

Hearing reports that Limerick didn't score for 22 minutes of the second half?

Rightwing

cabledude wrote: »

Hearing reports that Limerick didn't score for 22 minutes of the second half?

Ya, wiped out. Predictable enough in fairness though.

Rightwing

I wasn't overly impressed with Kiely and his complaints about the ref with 'players being hacked down'. The typical telltale sign for the County board that they have backed the wrong horse....nd 1 that will be running for 3 years :mad:

Fewer excuses and less talk.