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M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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    #1232
    spacetweek
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    Well I can certainly imagine that the N30 element could open on its own.


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    #1233
    Panjandrums
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    #1234
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Panjandrums wrote: »
    What do we think will happen during morning commuting hours?
    Will this cause traffic to worsen at Glen of the Downs as people will be more certain about how long it takes to get past enniscourthy ferns etc

    Is there really that many people commuting from south of Enniscorthy to Dublin ?


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    #1235
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,433 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The tailback is normally going south in the morning.

    And the evening.


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    #1236
    prunudo
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    Panjandrums wrote: »
    What do we think will happen during morning commuting hours?
    Will the new road cause traffic to worsen at Glen of the Downs as people will be more certain about how long it takes to get past enniscourthy ferns etc

    If the problem in the Glen of the Downs gets worse due to this project we really do have an issue with planning in this country from both infrastructure and housing/employment needs.


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    #1237
    Cantona's Collars
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    One new bridge taking shape at the Finchogue interchange, you'd nearly miss it driving past as it's on the same level as the existing road.


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    #1238
    jca
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    Cantona's Collars wrote: »
    One new bridge taking shape at the Finchogue interchange, you'd nearly miss it driving past as it's on the same level as the existing road.

    I noticed that this evening. The dual carriageway is really taking shape at the gap cross I got 2 pics as the light was just right I'll put them up tomorrow. With the big improvement in the weather there'll be a strong push to gets things moving again.


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    #1239
    JupiterKid
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    It’s so frustrating that there are so few progress pics of this scheme. If I lived in Enniscorthy I’d get myself a drone and get pics.


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    #1240
    jca
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    It’s so frustrating that there are so few progress pics of this scheme. If I lived in Enniscorthy I’d get myself a drone and get pics.

    It's very difficult to access the works, there was a lot of equipment damaged/stolen, diesel being robbed etc so the security guys are very aggressive if you approach it at all. In some of the places the road is completely blocked with wire from ditch to ditch making it impossible to even see the works never mind photograph it. Anyway, here's my two pics,

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18gP9bpJ5ZSR140eer9vrAsW_gr4tq2lulg/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/15l4aUuvRUEDtu-MR7yHU23rnMZFJziLUJA/view?usp=sharing


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    #1241
    kneemos
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    It’s so frustrating that there are so few progress pics of this scheme. If I lived in Enniscorthy I’d get myself a drone and get pics.


    High ditches and rolling hills.


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    #1242
    Kevwoody
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    Simple fact is its a building site and the public is not permitted to enter.
    If someone was in taking photos and got injured, the contractors would be in serious bother.
    That being said, after seeing the way m17 documented the M17/18, there's a good case to be made that perhaps an amatuer photographer could be inducted on site to provide regular updates. It would keep the public updated and provide an interesting catalogue of photos for future generations.


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    #1243
    Reuben1210
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    jca wrote: »
    It's very difficult to access the works, there was a lot of equipment damaged/stolen, diesel being robbed etc so the security guys are very aggressive if you approach it at all. In some of the places the road is completely blocked with wire from ditch to ditch making it impossible to even see the works never mind photograph it. Anyway, here's my two pics,

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18gP9bpJ5ZSR140eer9vrAsW_gr4tq2lulg/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18gP9bpJ5ZSR140eer9vrAsW_gr4tq2lulg/view?usp=sharing

    Nice pic, but think it's the same one twice?


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    #1244
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Reuben1210 wrote: »
    Nice pic, but think it's the same one twice?

    Changed it:o Thanks for that I never noticed:)


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    #1245
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Balorill today.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/12mpkcT0v32GFGQ_xPGmT9JZXoLzGyiGr0Q/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UF5jxjnypNt7ImjSLtHIjvNv_KzuufPUZA/view?usp=sharing


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    #1246
    BoatMad
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Is there really that many people commuting from south of Enniscorthy to Dublin ?

    personally I wouldn't say theres many actually commuting south for Arklow in my experience, the feed-in from Arklow North is where the vast majority of traffic comes from


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    #1247
    BoatMad
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    I was was down that way recently, I cant beleive the idea that the motorway terminate before Oilgate , sheer madness


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    #1248
    kneemos
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    BoatMad wrote: »
    I was was down that way recently, I cant beleive the idea that the motorway terminate before Oilgate , sheer madness


    Everyone's agreed on that.
    Even if it was for a short period while it was extended beyond Oilgate (probably never happen) it's still lunacy.


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    #1249
    betistuc
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    It will definitely be extended past Oilgate all the way to Rosslare Harbour if the reports of new freight ferry routes to Zebrugge and Rotterdam are anything to go by. They will operate out of Rosslare quite soon and will allow trucks to by pass UK mainland which will no doubt be a total mess at their cross channel ports after Brexit.
    M11 will see a big increase in HGV traffic as a result. Motorway extension is inevitable


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    #1250
    josip
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    betistuc wrote: »
    It will definitely be extended past Oilgate all the way to Rosslare Harbour if the reports of new freight ferry routes to Zebrugge and Rotterdam are anything to go by. They will operate out of Rosslare quite soon and will allow trucks to by pass UK mainland which will no doubt be a total mess at their cross channel ports after Brexit.
    M11 will see a big increase in HGV traffic as a result. Motorway extension is inevitable

    Is there much of a business case for using Rosslare as the nearest European port versus going to Dublin or Cork where the majority of the end consumers are?
    How much time will it save?
    Are port costs significantly different?
    Will there be any freight impact/opportunity for the near-derelict rail line from this?


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    #1251
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭jd


    betistuc wrote: »
    It will definitely be extended past Oilgate all the way to Rosslare Harbour if the reports of new freight ferry routes to Zebrugge and Rotterdam are anything to go by.
    Any links to those reports, or is it word of mouth at the moment?


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    #1252
    kneemos
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    Why would they bypass Dublin and put cargo on a trailer back to Dublin?

    Sounds like nonsense.


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    #1253
    betistuc
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    https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/irish-shipping-firms-plan-to-bypass-british-ports-with-direct-routes-to-europe-36782777.html

    sorry, my mistake. Was sure I read Rosslare. Stronger reading glasses on order


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    #1254
    andrewfaulk
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭andrewfaulk


    josip wrote: »
    Is there much of a business case for using Rosslare as the nearest European port versus going to Dublin or Cork where the majority of the end consumers are?
    How much time will it save?
    Are port costs significantly different?
    Will there be any freight impact/opportunity for the near-derelict rail line from this?

    Saves four hours on a ship versus two hours by road.. Doubles the cost of delivery from the ship to end destination.. makes next to now sense

    Railfreight would also be unlikely as the south east line is very limited operationally and there isn’t a whole lot of business to justify train loads of tanks and containers on a regular basis


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    #1255
    Sam Russell
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    andrewfaulk wrote: »
    Saves four hours on a ship versus two hours by road.. Doubles the cost of delivery from the ship to end destination.. makes next to now sense

    Depends on where the truck start from - or finishes.


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    #1256
    kneemos
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    Much easier to get anywhere from Dublin.
    Even Cork is easier and quicker than from Rosslare.

    Can't see an logic in having it as a freight port.


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    #1257
    Cantona's Collars
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    More precast bridge sections being transported through Enniscorthy yesterday,they headed out towards the N30 section.


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    #1258
    jca
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    Cantona's Collars wrote: »
    More precast bridge sections being transported through Enniscorthy yesterday,they headed out towards the N30 section.

    There's a crane dropping the sections into place at the old N30. I tried getting a few pics but it's just so muddy after the terrible weather I had to abandon the exercise.


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    #1259
    Cantona's Collars
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    jca wrote: »
    There's a crane dropping the sections into place at the old N30. I tried getting a few pics but it's just so muddy after the terrible weather I had to abandon the exercise.

    It's amazing how much of the project is tucked away into the landscape. I went up to Vinegar Hill before as I thought I'd have a good vantage point to see the scale of it. You can see virtually none of it even from that height.


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    #1260
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    This was posted by BAM today



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    #1261
    jca
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    Got a whisper last week that Glenteigue was close to opening, took a spin down there today and begod she’s open alright. It’s a very impressive structure indeed, it was busy so I couldn’t stop to get a photo but I’ll try and get one over the weekend. I see McGuires trucks driving on what will be the new road, it’s starting to come together now.


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