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Lil Kitten wrote: »Why?
Because I want to save up for a bit before getting out there. I want to move out with friends. It's ok with my parents.0 -
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Exactly. That's why it's best not to judge people who still live at home in their 20s until you know what their situation is.
The persons parents, don't know what the kids situation is?
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The persons parents, don't know what the kids situation is?
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Lil Kitten wrote: »I knew so many students going around with designer handbags and MAC make up a few years back. All seems ****ing stupid to me. I guess I'm just jealous. All I want is for my Daddy to buy me Armani sunglasses... Maybe your parents will adopt me IamXavier?
I would need to see pics first.I'm 25 now, been working since I was 17 in 5th year,
I got my first job when I was 13.saved all summer to support myself in 6th year. I moved out at 21 (to mind my Gran) and kept a part time job and used my grant to support myself like most of the girls in my college that moved up to Dublin to flat share (having gone to college at 18 themselves).
Well aren't you just great... You done what most kids do (apart from minding your gran, fair dues), although they tend to start working at a younger age. Why did you leave it so late to start working if you are so worried about being a dependant??? That part does not make one ounce of sense.My big brother kept moving out and back again. Saved up to travel around Asia for 18 months. Returned and got a job in a DIY shop. Dad (retired!) waking him, driving him to work, Mam making his lunch & dinner, doing the cleaning and his laundry. Brother saves enough to **** off to S. America last year and is still there. Well for some eh?
Snap, although it was my younger brother that done this. Although, he was let off work and had no option but to go abroad, he's making a nice wage in oz now.I'm sure many of you see nothing wrong with this picture,
That's because there is nothing wrong with it, what so ever... It just seems like you are resentful that your brother got this chance to go abroad.I wouldn't do that to my parents.
Do what? Did your brother commit some kind of crime?They raised me to have a healthy attitude to money, seems only a handful of posters here understand what I mean...
How have you come to that conclusion? I have a great understanding of money, I worked in a bank once
I don't know what everyone is getting so snippy about, maybe you just know I'm right. Gravy train has proved it can't last forever. I wonder which of us will fair better?
I don't think you are right
Lil Kitten wrote: »It's your whole attitude, EVERYTHING you write.
Everything? I have an attitude? Maybe you can tell me a little more about myself while we are here. I'd never say no to a free psychoanalysis.
Also, you are making a lot of assumptionsYou can't even tell. That's sad
Now now. Lets not go down this road :PThis is called taking advantage of someone's generosity. Most parents will disappear backwards and diaapear up their own asshole for their kids. It's up to you to be decent enough to say, "No it's fine. You relax, I'll take care of myself." Again, concept lost on you...
You keep making assumptions about me. It's hilarious. Concept lost on me? You will find it's not.
Since you have made soooo many assumptions, I invite you to tell me a little bit about my history and myself. However much you think you know.
If they offer you money, and you have none, you would still say no? Even if they have 3 houses, a couple of cars and are pretty well off? Why? Pride??? Don't make me laugh.Yea, it's the friends that are sad...
Well, they are for begrudging their "friends" what their parents give them. Why is it any of their business?Some people that move out are capable of putting on a wash and buying and cooking a healthy meal. Some people even get satisfaction out of that. I always find that the jealousy argument is used when someone has run out of logical points.
It's pretty obvious, either way, what's it to ya? It's none of your business yet you vent your anger and fustration at people who recieve a lot from their parents. Why?Ever hear of KIPPERS?
Nyom nyom nyom, I loves kippers...I wonder what the statistics for Ireland are?
Me too...London is far more expensive than anywhere in Ireland by a long, long way and people in London only get £65 a week.
I haven't lived in london, I don't know what it's like, but I do have the internetz and I can see the prices pretty clearly of houses, apartments and bedsits in certain areas.Luxuries, like eating out, electronics and communications can be cheaper here but the actual basics that people need to survive are more expensive. You have to pay for every last drop of water that comes out of your tap. You have to pay the council for your right to live in your area.
I am not sure about your ESB, gas or oil charges, I do know your grocery shopping is a lot cheaper than here...And you get far less money to cover all that with. There are plenty of people on the dole in London and they get by, it's tough, but it's possible. And it's easier in Ireland.
Have you been on social welfare in both countries? Living both in Dublin and London at the time you were on social welfare? If not, then you can't possibly say which is more difficult.I have checked it out. You are an adult in Ireland at 18.
Correct, legally you are an adult. You can drink alcohol and smoke. That's all great.You are either talking complete nonsense, trolling or you have the completely misinterpreted the allowances given to parents with adult dependents in full-time education.
The state sees you as being a dependant if you are under 23 and are in fulltime college. Even if you are not in college, they do not pay you the full social welfare payment, any idea why?
[quote=[Deleted User];64803878]Eh...yes, you need to know what you're talking about or you're just talking out of your a*se. I've lived in Ireland and England, and you're very, very wrong if you think Dublin is anywhere near as expensive as London.
I just checked two websites, I checked the whole list of available apartments, houses and bedsits for both Dublin and London. They were very similar. If anything the dearest house I seen for rent was in DublinYou said Kings Cross was expensive,
It is.then you said you can get a room for sweet FA in Kings Cross.
You can.Which is it?
Both, why does it have to be one or the other... All I did was searched. I found expensive places and rather cheap places too. Can you comprehend that?You have no idea what you're talking about.
I done a pretty simple search, checked a few websites and got my answers. You can do it too. Check the prices and come back to meI live in London.
That must make you an expert auctioneer then...Even the worst kip of a house in the worst kip of an area is expensive.
It can be, if you are unable to shop around for an apartment, or are seriously stuck and need immediate accomodation. Not eveything is going to be extremely expensive.Or perhaps you think £530+ pcm plus bills and council tax isn't expensive.
It's not. Try €1200 a month, plus bills etc etc.Perhaps you are forgetting that if you live out in zones 4 or 5, your weekly travel costs are ridiculously high.
I bet your traveling costs are not 400+ a monthPerhaps you don't know how low a lot of the salaries are in London
Em... a lot of the salaries in Dublin are low... How is this a point?or what the minimum wage is.
£5.73 Or has it gone up last year?Plenty of nice, big apartments you can have all to yourself in nice areas are above 1K. You wouldn't get a horrid little bedsit for that in most parts of London.
Em... I think you need to check out the prices again, I guess it has been quite some time since you have checked out the market?Just because parents offer doesn't mean you have to take it.
No it doesn't, but if somebody takes it then why should they be given crap about it?Lots of parents are well intentioned and worried about their kids - that doesn't mean you should just take, take, take.
That's not a problem, if you are taking what is being offered to you, how is that wrong? If they starve to death after they give you a few pound, then it would be a problem, but that is not the case.You really don't have to take everything offered to you.
You don't have to, but there is nothing wrong with taking. Parents are happy to know they have helped financialy in troubled times. Most of them anyway.It's quite nice standing on your own two feet, you should try it sometime.
Assume much? Why is it you think I am not already standing on my own two feet? You have made a lot of assumptions tonight... why?Oh so we can be right or wrong now, can we?
Yea, you have been wrong quite a lot in this thread.Incredible arrogance there.
No need for that. Have I aimed any insults at you tonight? No? Then don't insult me, good girl.You might want to educate yourself a bit more if you want to talk of right and wrong,
You know about my education too? Do I know you or something? No? How is it that you have come to yet another wrong conclusion?as most of your info on London is complete garbage.
You mean the info I got from property managment sites? I only recited what I read.I wouldn't be as crass as to dismiss your opinions as being 'wrong', however.
Where have I stated that your opinions have been wrong? Opinions can't really be wrong. Different? Yes.
Here, read this part againCringe all you want... you have been wrong a few times in this thread and postI can debate just fine, thanks. It was simply an observation.
Keep it to yourself in future? You know nothing about me, so you are not capable of making such observationsNo, you think they're jealous. I could think of nothing worse than having to live with Mammy and Daddy as an adult
Good for you, a lot of young adults love living at home, they have a great relationship with them etc etc. What has it got to do with you exactly? Nothing... Why comment on it? Only to vent your hatret, angst and begrudgery... If it is something else, then please tell us.having to ring home if I was going to be late for my dinner, as if I were a ten year old.
That's common courtesy, letting the person who cooked you food that you will be a little late.I actually felt quite sorry for people still stuck at home during college. The whole student house thing was a huge part of the college experience for me. Horses for courses.
Why? If that's what they wanted, why feel sorry for them? If anything, they should be feeling sorry for you.Haha you're actually pulling that card,
Card? The living in modern Ireland part? Well it's not so much a "card" as it is a fact.after accusing another poster of being jealous and rubbing it in her face that you've been lucky?
Mind pointing that out to me? Where I said I was lucky? What is the corelation between me saying I am lucky and saying others are jealous?You're really something else.
Thank you :cool:My point was, my parents are as wealthy or even better off than those of the people parading around in Abercrombie hoodies acting like their sh*t didn't stink.
Mine too.I just wasn't brought up to believe the world owed me anything.
Nor was I.Your posts don't strike me as being written by someone who knows the value of money.
Where have I mentioned anything about me squandering money, pissing it up against a wall, wasting money? Anywhere at all?
Another assumption.Yep. Loads. I used to give grinds in South Dublin and could hardly believe the sense of entitlement among the 16-17 year olds. I've never, ever seen anything like it. I go to college with former Etonians, my sister's friends are all Cambridge students from seriously wealthy backgrounds, and I've still never seen anything like the spoiled South Dublin princess.
I lived in South Dublin for 17 years, I rarely witnessed this "South Dublin Princess" type person.
I know you find it difficult to understand, but parents that could, gave their children a lot. What are they to say? No daddy, thanks for the A&F hoodie, but I would rather a Primark one, or none at all? That's definately the least logical answer.Me too. That's great, once the kids appreciate it. I'd love to give my kids as much as I could. The moment I felt they were becoming spoiled or taking it all for granted, that would be it. I'd be ashamed to raise a spoiled, entitled Celtic Tiger cub-like brat.
If they appretiate it, they can take all they want. If they don't appretiate it you are going to be ashamed? It's quite obvious that a lot of children don't appretiate what they have, but most do.Lil Kitten wrote: »Are you a cub? No, then this doesn't apply to you. Did I say you were all spoiled? No.
Chip on my shoulder.. Yea right. Astounding and dumbfounded by how many people can't get their head around the fact that some of us just aren't interested in all that shallow crap that came with flash, crass, New Money Ireland.
What shallow crap? Who here is interested in shallow crap exactly? Is this another assumption? It very well could be, but I will wait for your answer before I concludeLil Kitten wrote: »Why?
You do seem very confused. Where is it you live? Is it on this planet? Can you think of any reason why, in this current economic climate (there's the hint) that this young person might be living at home with his parents?No, I'm not. I was never spoiled. I missed that waste, greed and sense of entitlement that defines a cub. Thank **** for that! Just because I was born to this generation does not make me a product of it.
Who gave you the right to point out who is and who is not a celtic tiger cub? Well? You have such hatred for those who have a lot. Why? I think there is a subtle hint hidden in the following quote.My parents never really benefitted hugely from the Celtic Tiger. No new cars, house extension, massive 18th/21st party or foreign holidays. Just my dad doing his normal job that he did all my life and my Mam stayed at home.
Ah, your posts make a lot more sense now. Thanks for clearing that up for us.Because I want to save up for a bit before getting out there. I want to move out with friends. It's ok with my parents.
It may be ok with your parents mate, but Lil Kitten ain't going to be happy, you best move out dude...I can't believe Iamxavier got post of the day, I literally got half way then had to stop cause I nearly got sick...
Woohoo, post of the day... Thanks for showing me, I would never have known.
But why did you nearly get sick? Come on, tell me.No-one has all the answers.
Situations in life and answers to those situations are all very specific.
I know at least when My sis got out of Uni she couldn't get a job in Ireland and my mother wouldn't let go on the dole!
Why did your mother not let your sister go on the dole? Why did your sister not go on the dole anyway?She bought my sister a ticket to France, My sis then got a job there and that was it. In hindsight what seemed cruel ended up being the best option going. She made my sister really live, fend and work for herself. We all have that survival ability and even in this modern world it's what keeps us surviving and successful.
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Lane Raspy Mackerel wrote: »I just checked two websites, I checked the whole list of available apartments, houses and bedsits for both Dublin and London. They were very similar. If anything the dearest house I seen for rent was in Dublin
Oh.My.God. You checked a few websites. I'm sure if I'd just checked a few websites, I'd have a very different view of London prices as well. For a start, most of the affordable places on Gumtree etc are scams. Secondly, you obviously have NO IDEA of how many extras you need to pay on top of the rent. Have you ever heard of council tax? Water rates? These aren't £20 a month or whatever you seem to think they are. They easily add another couple of hundred onto the rent each month.It is.
OK, define 'cheap'. Include all the relevant council tax etc. I'm curious to know how 'cheap' you think it is to live in Kings Cross. I have a very good idea since it's 5 mins away and most of my friends live there but I'd quite like the laugh.Both, why does it have to be one or the other... All I did was searched. I found expensive places and rather cheap places too. Can you comprehend that?
You might want to work on your English, then. The way it was phrased made it look like living in Kings Cross was extravagant, then that living in Kings Cross was cheap. As if you were comparing two areas. There are cheaper and more expensive properties everywhere - why even make a point of mentioning Kings Cross when saying you can get a room for £1000 a month if you want to be extravagant? It's not one of the nicer areas of London.I done a pretty simple search, checked a few websites and got my answers. You can do it too. Check the prices and come back to me
Oh you 'done' a search, that means you now have an excellent idea of the London rental market. You are clueless. You can find anything online. The question is, does the place even exist? Lots of ads are 'bait and switch' to drum up interest in an agency who will then turn around and tell you that place is gone but they've another for £300/month more. Lots of houses advertised for a low rent are absolute hellholes you couldn't live in. Do you have any idea about the areas of London? I'm sure you can find a cheap-ish place in council estate where people get stabbed every day, but that's hardly comparing like with like. And again, COUNCIL TAX AND WATER RATES. You don't pay these in Dublin.That must make you an expert auctioneer then...
I actually live in London and have helped several friends search for rooms, including one just last week. I would dare to say that I have a much better idea of how much things cost than you do.It can be, if you are unable to shop around for an apartment, or are seriously stuck and need immediate accomodation. Not eveything is going to be extremely expensive.
Everything is expensive, with the exception of council or student housing.It's not. Try €1200 a month, plus bills etc etc.
What is this, 2005? Even then, what room in Dublin ever cost 1200 euro? You could get a nice 2-3 bed apartment in a lovely area for that, easily. You really have no idea, do you? Have you ever left home? I'm thinking of returning to Dublin later in the year and have viewed a number of properties, lovely one and two bed apartments, for *well* under a grand. No council tax, no water rates. I rented in Dublin for 6 years, I'm well aware of how much things cost.I bet your traveling costs are not 400+ a month
Another 'fact' pulled from your bumhole. How on earth are your travelling costs 400 euro a month? If they are, you're not using the available discounts/unlimited tickets or you're commuting from God knows where, which makes your argument invalid. I'm sure I could easily spend 400 a month if I paid cash every time, given that the trip out to my boyfriend's and back, a distance of about 5 miles, costs almost £6 *with* my Oyster card and the minimum Tube fare, even to go one stop, is £1.80. I lived in Dublin for years. It's not a cheap city. But I've never met anyone other than you who tried to claim transport was more expensive in Ireland.Em... a lot of the salaries in Dublin are low... How is this a point?
You think the minimum wage is low? It's one of the highest in the world.£5.73 Or has it gone up last year?
Yep. Now google 'London Living Wage'. You'll find there's a big difference between the minimum wage and the amount on which one can live in relative comfort.Em... I think you need to check out the prices again, I guess it has been quite some time since you have checked out the market?
Nope, last week in fact. Only I checked out the real market, not some vague Internet prices.No it doesn't, but if somebody takes it then why should they be given crap about it?
They shouldn't. The thing is, you're acting as if it's completely out of the question to turn down money. As if only an idiot would do that. As if it's a ridiculous thought.That's not a problem, if you are taking what is being offered to you, how is that wrong? If they starve to death after they give you a few pound, then it would be a problem, but that is not the case.
You don't have to, but there is nothing wrong with taking. Parents are happy to know they have helped financialy in troubled times. Most of them anyway.
Because lots of people just like to be independent! You just don't seem to get this. My parents wouldn't really miss a few hundred quid every month, does that mean I should ask them to pay my rent so that I can save my wages to go on holiday in the summer?Assume much? Why is it you think I am not already standing on my own two feet? You have made a lot of assumptions tonight... why?
Just some of the things you said and the fact you seem to have absolutely no idea of how much things cost.You mean the info I got from property managment sites? I only recited what I read.
Well if you read it on the Internet, it MUST be true! :rolleyes:Good for you, a lot of young adults love living at home, they have a great relationship with them etc etc. What has it got to do with you exactly? Nothing... Why comment on it? Only to vent your hatret, angst and begrudgery... If it is something else, then please tell us.
Again, twisting my words. There's nothing wrong with liking to live at home. You were the one who stated that people were jealous of you. I honestly have never in my life felt jealous of anyone who was living at home during college. If anything, I felt sorry for them, that they weren't getting to experience as much as I was. That's my personal feeling, I'm sure they felt perfectly happy at home. My point is, you think people are jealous and begrudge you - what is there to begrudge? What is it you think people are so jealous of?That's common courtesy, letting the person who cooked you food that you will be a little late.
Wow, point sailing over heard. The point is, college is about independence for a lot of people. Cooking your own food, cooking what you want, when you want, coming home when you want. Becoming an adult. That's why a lot of Londoners move away for college when they have some of the world's best institutions on their doorstep. Sure, it would be 'easy' to live at home, but that's not the point.Why? If that's what they wanted, why feel sorry for them? If anything, they should be feeling sorry for you.
Why? Sorry that I was totally independent and could do exactly what I wanted all the time? As I said, if they were happy with that setup, fine. I wouldn't have been. If I'd wanted that, I could have stayed at home. So why on EARTH would I be jealous?I lived in South Dublin for 17 years, I rarely witnessed this "South Dublin Princess" type person.
It's probably normal for you, then. Because they're everywhere.I know you find it difficult to understand, but parents that could, gave their children a lot. What are they to say? No daddy, thanks for the A&F hoodie, but I would rather a Primark one, or none at all? That's definately the least logical answer.
No, no, YOU are the one who finds it difficult to understand. Of course I understand why people would say yes. But I also understand why people would say no thanks, I'd prefer to buy it myself. The fact you think this is so crazy speaks volumes. I know quite a few people who regularly turn down offers from their parents and have done so since they were in their mid teens.If they appretiate it, they can take all they want. If they don't appretiate it you are going to be ashamed? It's quite obvious that a lot of children don't appretiate what they have, but most do.
I don't think they do. I have been a bit harsh on Celtic Tiger cubs here. True, some of them are great and do appreciate what they have. But from what I've seen, they are the exception to the rule. I've yet to meet a privately schooled student from Dublin who had even the slightest idea of how lucky they were.0 -
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You ask what is “that shallow c**p” that most of you don’t have an interest in, then say I’m a begrudger because we didn’t have stuff like extensions and big cars and foreign holidays. As mentioned before the disposable, take take take, now now now attitude that helped lead this Credit crunch anyways. You don’t think you have it but everything you post says otherwise. Although you’ve been horribly wrong about me, so maybe I’m wrong about you.
Shocking to believe that maybe we didn’t NEED that stuff I mentioned. There’s a difference between want and need you know. We didn’t want it either. Had a beat up old Fiesta that we got from my aunt and used to drive to the countryside every year to a relations farmhouse. We had the cove and the rock pools and the local farm to play on and we were happy. No TV or anything. Better than going on some sun holiday to be babysat by the Entertainments people while my parents lazed by the pool. Didn’t need a huge house either, but luckily I had my own bedroom, cos I’m a girl
A lot of similar minded people on here, and I think they know what I’m talking about. I guess we aren’t on the same plain in our thiking, Xavier so will butt heads.
I guess it’s the difference between when I was a kid in the 80s and early 90s, to now –like we made our own Halloween costumes. Now they’re all just bought in Smyths. Where’s the fun in that? Come to think of it, when’s the last time you saw a kid washing cars, or running a sale of work or making “perfume” to make 50p to spend on 10p crisps, Smilie bars and penny jellies? Give me that childhood over what I see these days.. And as for me not working sooner, I didn’t think it relevant to say that I earned £4 a week delivering newspapers aged 12. :rolleyes:
You seem to be under the impression that money = success and be all and end all to life. I guess that why you say people are jealous or begrudging when they disregard this life style. This might not be true, but some of us have picked up that vibe.
My brother didn’t commit a crime no, but that doesn’t mean that it was right or just or ethical. It wasn’t. Like I said, I COULD turn around and ask my dad for five grand to do what I want but I don’t want to. I have gone on 3 or 4 foreign city break holidays in a year. So I’m not jealous, and I paid for these myself. Although I do get 2 months summer holidays paid a year, so I guess… hmm they pay for themselves.
You mention turning down free money. It’s not FREE, it’s your parents’ money! That they worked for, it didn’t grow on a tree. Just because your parents made some cash in life deosn’t mean thay have to share it with you. It’s their discretion. That’s what’s being lost on a lot of people. If parents dion’t take you in and provide for you while you save for your own place are they cnuts that deserve a slap in the jaw too? It’s like these D4 girls that think they’re rich. Um, no, your Dad may be but you have nothing and are relying on their generosity. You’re well ****ed if daddy leaves his money to charity and not you. Too many kids being taught that they can buy their way through life. Even if your parents do have big cars and 3 properties. Why do they feel the need for this anyways? Insecure? Keeping up with the Jone’s mentality? Got something to prove? I don’t know, seems silly to me. I lived in Clontarf for 3 years and the mindset out there was driving me demented.
Don’t talk about the current climate blah blah. I’m not different. Public sector job (lucky to have one, but salary is cut to bits), him in private, saving for a mortgage, saving for a wedding… We aren’t going to go running to mammy and daddy to be bailed out. His parents had him at 18 so they need their own life. We’ll manage. We’re getting there. Ok for some but I’d rather not give my/ his parents that burden. My Dad is comfortable in knowing that one of his brood is up and running and he doesn’t have to worry, he feels he did his job in raising me well. I can’t just turn around now and move back home or whatever. He will keep an eye on me and an interest but doesn’t have to mind me. Anyways I could not live at home with the under my roof, my rules attitude. Or the infamous “I pay for the computer, TV, phone so I control all”. I can’t imagine my boyfriend not being able to stay over, or being given out to for coming in late waking them up, or ringing home if I’m late for dinner. Not my cuppa tea at all!
If people need to do this fair enough, and if parents think it’s the right thing to do that’s ok too. It’s the ingrateful attitude that I have a problem with. Some of the responses here have been an eye opener.0 -
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spinandscribble wrote: »I wouldn't really know any true "celtic cubs" that have been described. Those who expect families to pay for aroun the world trips ect.
I'm sure they exist but maybe not many outside of dublin?
Well the basis for Ross o Carroll Kelly wasn't plucked from thin air!
They're dying off now because the wealth is. They were all over the place a few years ago. Definitely all over Dublin. My friend & his wife got €1 million house in Dublin (got €700,000 towards it from his Mam). It's only worth half that now, poor suckers in negative equity. Not like they weren't warned by anyone, but they would only buy in SoCoDu. :rolleyes: They got the wedding paid for by her parents, had it in a castle, black tie only (!) and the registry from Brown Thomas...
My cousins went to fee paying colleges and got an apartment when they finished. Don't even appreciate it or realise what a boost to the rest of their life that is, one says "Well I had to pay a bit of rent to my mam like, so it's not as if it's free!". I asked one of my cousins if she expects her Dad to pay for her wedding "Well he paid for my sisters', he can pay for mine!" Same girl also wants at least 5 bedrooms in her house. She was working in House of Fraser, spending all her money on designer make up and handbags.
I teach with a girl from Kildare, she apparently has "no money". She lives at home and earning 36k a year. Had to get a loan to pay for half her trip to Oz for a year and saved the other half herself. Her Mam does EVERYTHING for her. Including forcing her to go to Mass and ringing looking for her when she's not home! She's back now, broke as fcuk and in debt, teaching, living back with her parents. She's 23!
There is no word of a lie there. So believe me, it happens.
And I don't give a **** if I sound moaney, "begrudging", judgemental or apparently "jealous" whatever.... If you can't see my POV then don't respond because we have absolutely nothing to say to each other.0 -
Lil Kitten wrote: »If you can't see my POV then don't respond because we have absolutely nothing to say to each other.
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And no one has said that people "should" live at home til they turn 23 (I think it was Jasiah Tall Whirlpool who was under the impression that this had been said).
Lane Raspy Mackerel has argued (wrongly) this many times during the thread. That your parents are responsible for you until you are 23 because you are apparently not an adult. I think he's confusing it with grants maybe?
If you can drink, get married, earn minimum wage, be tried as an adult etc etc etc at 18, then you're an adult! 0 -
Why are you on boards?
Hahah! Not aimed at you!! I'm just sick of (the same few) posters that either don't have an utter clue what I'm saying or are misreading my comments and getting all defensive or attempting to line for line tear down my posts (failingly). You know how it is.
I think Iguana, Jasiah Tall Whirlpool, Prinz and O1s1n are saying roughly the same thing. Everyone else getting offended though. 0 -
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