Expired NCT, caught at checkpoint

daveharnett

Anan1 wrote: »

Seriously, how can you argue that the NCT is not a safety check? It may be imperfect, but it's a safety check nonetheless.

Lots of parts of the test do address safety - tyres, lights, brakes, suspension, rust, all safety issues.

That's not all it's about though - for example, it puts perfectly safe cars off the road every day for emissions problems. From a government point of view, i see the major 'benefit' of the NCT as taking older cars out of circulation as soon as possible. Fewer older cars => more newer cars =>more vrt, vat.

galwaytt

Anan1 wrote: »

Seriously, how can you argue that the NCT is not a safety check? It may be imperfect, but it's a safety check nonetheless.

I don't need to argue, I'll just quote the Gubberment: Vehicle factors only contribute to 0.5% of fatalities

or, only 0.3% page 38

jimmycrackcorm

SARASON wrote: »

Hope you do get a summons and 5 penalty points and a fine. The guard you met was totally sound he should have seized your car on the spot. I have vehicles on the road for a living and i test them a month before they are due in case extra work must be carried out. You left it 6 months after and never would have bothered until you were stopped. Shame on you

A friend once had a car fail because it was a hatchback and the hydraulics on the read door wouldn't hold it up properly - the single fault. He didn't get it re-tested out of annoyance and just traded it in. Would that deserve 5 penalty points and shame?

Anan1

galwaytt wrote: »

I don't need to argue, I'll just quote the Gubberment: Vehicle factors only contribute to 0.5% of fatalities

or, only 0.3% page 38

I'm lost now. How does that prove that the NCT is not a safety check?

Fizman

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

A friend once had a car fail because it was a hatchback and the hydraulics on the read door wouldn't hold it up properly - the single fault. He didn't get it re-tested out of annoyance and just traded it in. Would that deserve 5 penalty points and shame?

Did he drive it around for 6 months in the mean time though, before trading it in?

If he didn't, then that's not the best example to introduce in this argument.

muppet26

ooh look at all the self righteous people on here! Meh read the post properly and understand the guys situation before posting.

corktina

Its a peculiar Irish thing to make up a version of the Rules that suit you and then try to persuade the rest of the country to adopt them in favour of the official rules.

The Official Rule is , if you dont have that square of paper (that is called a DISC :rolleyes:) on your windscreen, you arent entitled to be on the road.

dodzy

SARASON wrote: »

Hope you do get a summons and 5 penalty points and a fine........

Hope you go to court / hope you get a fine / hope you get penalty points / serves you right / shame on you / you'll burn in hell .....BLAHBLAHBLAH ..........Jesus, its a feckin witch-hunt :rolleyes:

But on a serious note, 6 months was pushing it a bit OP, as other ( not so hostile ) posters have pointed out, and at this juncture it's fair to say you have been lucky.

EPM

OP, I wont pass judgement.

You can get an NCT quickly if you try. Pay the money - can't bankrupt you. It will make life easier. You got done and unfortunately need to sort this rather than wriggle out. I know we'd all like an easy way out but is it really worth the risk. 5 points and a fairly substantial fine for what, a couple of hundred?

deman

cpoh1 wrote: »

You got pretty unlucky there i must say.

What???

How can you say he was unlucky??

He was lucky that the garda didn't take the car off like he was perfectly entitled to do!
He was lucky the garda gave him a chance to do the right thing!

Yawns

The NCT can be gotten quickly. I even manged to get a car booked online for 2 months, went back 2 days to recheck and a slot was free for 3 days time. Didn't even have to go looking for a cancellation.

If you had failed the first NCT, booked another for a few months time, fixed the prob & then drove you would prob have more sympathy but as it is: You failed, didn't fix and didn't book a new one. Guard was way too nice.

It's not like it failed a major thing. If it did go to court then a Judge will not believe you couldn't find a mech or book nct in 6 months.

cpoh1

deman wrote: »

What???

How can you say he was unlucky??

He was lucky that the garda didn't take the car off like he was perfectly entitled to do!
He was lucky the garda gave him a chance to do the right thing!

He was unlucky because 99% of gardai have no interest in the NCT and understand that its a farce of a test and system (i understand its all we have!).

He was also unlucky because there are 1000's of cars on the road all over the country with expired/no ncts with no problem from gardai.

Lets face it a lack of nct is a very minor offence when you consider the amount of uninsured/drunk/unlicenced drivers on the roads and considering the paucity of real safety checks (my pushbike brakes on a car would pass the nct braking criteria) its driver is not really safety orientated either no matter what spin is put on it.

Any common sense garda will turn a blind eye to a lack of nct on the dash, most will tell you its too much hassle to prosecute anyway. 5 points and large fine is the MAX fine you can get, the are very very few people getting anything near that punishment in court.

I know there are loads of model citizens on here but this is reality in a imperfect world!

caspa307

SARASON wrote: »

Hope you do get a summons and 5 penalty points and a fine. The guard you met was totally sound he should have seized your car on the spot. I have vehicles on the road for a living and i test them a month before they are due in case extra work must be carried out. You left it 6 months after and never would have bothered until you were stopped. Shame on you

CHRIST almighty mate youd wanna be careful your halo's about to fall off, it could be that he has tried to get it done or maybe he is just busy i hope one day something like this happens to you and you try to get advice and you meet some tool like you shouting the odds at a pc screen cos your hardcore, TOOL

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Let me get this straight.

Your NCT is out almost 6 months, due to failure on a fairly important componant of the vehicles suspension.

You get stopped at a checkpoint recently, and now you are looking at 5 points and a thousand euro fine.

However, you seem to feel this is unjust, so your looking for a way out.

How many opportunities have you had in the last 6 months to repair the car and book a retest? I could have built a car from the wheels up in 6 months, never mind getting this work done!

Your middle name must be Shylock.

while i have no problem with your quote, shylocks a bit harsh aint it funny though

Theta

caspa307 wrote: »

TOOL

Calling names makes your point even more valid and makes you sound mature!

To be honest I would rather they seized his car also. The cop was doing him a serious favor by not taking his motor off him.

-Corkie-

caspa307 wrote: »

CHRIST almighty mate youd wanna be careful your halo's about to fall off, it could be that he has tried to get it done or maybe he is just busy i hope one day something like this happens to you and you try to get advice and you meet some tool like you shouting the odds at a pc screen cos your hardcore, TOOL



while i have no problem with your quote, shylocks a bit harsh aint it funny though

Your obviously someone that dont give a toss about the law. If he crashed into your car and killed your kids and another loved one because his car wasnt roadworthy you might have a different attitude. What would you do then..... Call him names on the roadside???????????????????

Cabaal

muppet26 wrote: »

ooh look at all the self righteous people on here! Meh read the post properly and understand the guys situation before posting.

Your post is pretty pointless, atleast if your going to say people don't understand the OP's situation how about you actually post examples of why you "think" this.

Without anything else your most might as well have been posted in another random forum for all the meaning it has

cpoh1 wrote: »

He was unlucky because 99% of gardai have no interest in the NCT and understand that its a farce of a test and system (i understand its all we have!).

Hearsay, please back this up with actual facts

He was also unlucky because there are 1000's of cars on the road all over the country with expired/no ncts with no problem from gardai.

Oh I guess that makes it ok right?
Sure I guess tomorrow I'll drive with no insurance because there's 1000's of idiot motorists doing it and not getting caught :rolleyes:

I know there are loads of model citizens on here but this is reality in a imperfect world!

I'll continue to be an imperfect world as long as people like you are around that don't seem to give a rats arse about the laws

caspa307 wrote: »

CHRIST almighty mate youd wanna be careful your halo's about to fall off, it could be that he has tried to get it done or maybe he is just busy

Busy for almost 6 months?
Yeah thats a great excuse

i hope one day something like this happens to you and you try to get advice and you meet some tool like you shouting the odds at a pc screen cos your hardcore, TOOL

Yeah nice argument, reduced to childish name calling

while i have no problem with your quote, shylocks a bit harsh aint it funny though

Sure a smiley face makes it all better.....

Alanstrainor

caspa307 wrote: »

CHRIST almighty mate youd wanna be careful your halo's about to fall off, it could be that he has tried to get it done or maybe he is just busy i hope one day something like this happens to you and you try to get advice and you meet some tool like you shouting the odds at a pc screen cos your hardcore, TOOL



while i have no problem with your quote, shylocks a bit harsh aint it funny though

You can take a weeks break for that one. Let's keep things civil.
Thanks