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Anyone else think Metallica have gone crap?
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projectmayhem wrote: »This thread is bound to go well.
But either way, here's my opinion. I loved Metallica. Loved them. So much so that it brings a burst of blood to my cheeks to admit it nowadays. Then napster happened, and in a blind rage at the sheer pompous ignorance of the band, I stopped caring. I ignored them, got rid of my CDs and moved on. In the last few years I've been paying more attention to them, but with some amount of contempt.
No, they're not as good as they were. Neither are Led Zeppelin. The Beatles would even be crap now. Why? Because, contrary to popular belief, they are old men. They're not young, energetic booze hounds anymore. They're old men, fathers of kids and their bones can't really keep up with the music they used to make. Their tastes have changed. I'm sure even Lars has managed to introduce types of music that aren't from scandanavia to his collection.
Fans need to build a bridge and get real here. Sure, they make less-then-brilliant music, and their live shows aren't as good as they used to be - but that's what happens. I'm not sure why Metallica are held up to this odd mantle that they absolutely MUST live up to. "Anything else is just muck". Maybe lasting this long is a bad thing for a band... as the fans will only recall the "good old days". Perhaps a lot of fans want to re-live their youths through the band they love instead of growing up.
It's the same argument used when Nine Inch Nails released two albums that were devoid of epic depression and drug references. It's because he wasn't on drugs, and was rich. He grew up and changed his style, listened to music other then Skinny Puppy and produced pieces that meant more to him at that point in his life.
As much as I want to be non-chelant about Metallica, I have to say they're in a no-win scenario. Death Magnetic was a fairly "meh" album for me, but it was as close to "old school" as they're going to get. Yet fans were as divided as ever. Sadly, threads like this will always show up... and always cause stupid trollish debates. Ultimately, these debates are pointless because the band are sitting in pools, surrounded by supermodels and not really caring about you while you think they care and wish they would pour as much time and love into music as they used to. Instead, they're taking private jets to take the kids to school.
+1 to this. Very well summed up.
Expecting bands to churn out the same quality and same type of music over a 28 year period is narrow minded and retarded. Do you as a music appreciator expect to listen to the same type of music and same bands over the same period? I expect not. I know my tastes have expanded and changed over a period of 15 years. I still listen to metal but ive lost interest in death metal and all the new age metal/nu metal i find boring and unimpressive.
I still love metallica, but i dont like load or reload. But thats ok. Its for bands to bring out not so hot albums. Metallica still put on a great live show and put alot of effort into the relationship with their fans.0 -
+1 to this. Very well summed up.
Expecting bands to churn out the same quality and same type of music over a 28 year period is narrow minded and retarded. Do you as a music appreciator expect to listen to the same type of music and same bands over the same period? I expect not. I know my tastes have expanded and changed over a period of 15 years. I still listen to metal but ive lost interest in death metal and all the new age metal/nu metal i find boring and unimpressive.
Ive actually gotton back into the old original death metal again, cant stand the new genre bands though they really do nothing for me or the music itself. I do love Metallica but the way they went after the black album is unforgivable, the likes of Slayer and Iron Maiden (although im not a major fan of either) seem to have kept to their origins all through their career, I really do think Metallica would have produced better albums and improved on the likes of MOP/ANJV had they kept tho their origins, hopefully we will get one more album before the hang up their boots that just screams METALLICA 0 -
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einheisserschre wrote: »What's this? Don't you mean AJFA????
woops my bad I really should stop abbreviating everything I never get it right........AND JUSTICE FOR ALL
FOOKIN LOVE THAT ALBUM
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fartmaster wrote: »Ive actually gotton back into the old original death metal again, cant stand the new genre bands though they really do nothing for me or the music itself. I do love Metallica but the way they went after the black album is unforgivable, the likes of Slayer and Iron Maiden (although im not a major fan of either) seem to have kept to their origins all through their career, I really do think Metallica would have produced better albums and improved on the likes of MOP/ANJV had they kept tho their origins, hopefully we will get one more album before the hang up their boots that just screams METALLICA
Im not sure why you would feel something is "unforgivable" but each to their own I guess.
Slayer and Maiden have stuck to the roots (as has Megadeth for the most part) but alot of it sucks and gets boring to us older fans. It becomes same all same all.0 -
projectmayhem wrote: »Perhaps a lot of fans want to re-live their youths through the band they love instead of growing up.
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Ash.J.Williams wrote: »No need to argue!! Alcoholism and bad relationships within the band were brought to their ultimate levels during that tour.
But in fairness it was a 2 and a half year tour. That would drive anyone to murder their bandmates! It took them to Death Magnetic to recover! Rather them than me! 0 -
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