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Applegreen service stations

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  • 09-03-2010 1:11am
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    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭


    Applegreen service stations are fooling their customers into thinking they can stay free at a hotel for 3 nights if you collect 50 stamps and pay 19.99 for a voucher. A stamp is issued when you spend 10euros on fuel - so a total of 500euros would be required in fuel expenditure to fill the loyalty book.

    However upon closer inspection it says that you must eat breakfast and dinner in the hotel.

    However after filling in the booklet and exchanging it for my voucher I find that the directory of hotels has a stipulation that you must spend a min. of 49-75 euros per person per day on breakfast and dinner excluding drinks.

    Its a complete joke to get people to buy fuel in Applegreen garages without any benefit to the customer.

    I religiously went out of my way to to purchase petrol with applegreen and am appauled at this applegreen scam of a promotion.They are just fooling their customers into thinking they can get a free break in a hotel when really the deals they are offering are much more expensive than most deals on www.discoverireland.ie


    It was talked about on liveline(skip to approx. 17mins in clip) today and its just a disgrace.

    I am boycotting Applegreen service stations after this and refuse to use their stations for fueling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    eh, i'm gonna spend the money on petrol anyway and the applegreen near me is the cheapest one around so doesn't really worry me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭The Express


    Did they specifically use the word 'free' in the promotion???

    Bring back the 'auld Esso Tiger tokens. They may have nearly burst open the glovebox but at least you knew that 4000 of them would get you a nylon holdall!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I am boycotting Applegreen service stations after this and refuse to use their stations for fueling.
    What exactly do the other petrol stations give out? I like Applegreen station, as they are usually the cheapest nearby. Must look into this booklet thing, as I top up by €20 every so often there...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Did they specifically use the word 'free' in the promotion???

    Bring back the 'auld Esso Tiger tokens. They may have nearly burst open the glovebox but at least you knew that 4000 of them would get you a nylon holdall!!

    Forgot about them! Still have my sports bag somewhere!! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,984 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Listen everyone, this is a long established silly and nonsensical promotion <> run my various third party companies who claim to offer discounted deals in Hotels and restaurants offering anything from free accommodation, meals in restaurants Blaa Blaa Blaa.

    It is not apple green who run these promotions although they are foolish to permit them in their outlets. The most infamous one is the super value breaks which have almost bankrupted hotels. Hotels have now caught on that people using these cheap and nasty deals don't purchase alcohol or drink during their stays so the new catch is the discounted accommodation is only on the basis guests Have to have Breakfast and dinner (Not bar food), if they don't they are charged.

    Take my advice (I'm in hospitality) book leisure breaks directly with Hotels, there are great deals out there and forget about these BS third party companies. I heard about this on Live line today and its not and certainly won't be the last time its featured, its becoming quite tiresome.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I think this is better suited for the consumer issues forum


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭badinfleunce


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    It is not apple green who run these promotions although they are foolish to permit them in their outlets.

    It is in conjunction with applegreen service stations and stamps are only issued by applegreen so in my book although it may be run by a different company my contact was with applegreen and they took 1000euros in fuel from me by misleading me into believing that I would get a holiday in my case for free as I had collected 100 stamps on the original booklet.

    The new booklet charges you 19.99, payable at the garage in return for a directory of hotels with a voucher in the back page - which in my mind is a bigger scam as the garage is now making 19.99 for the priviledge of ripping you off.

    There is no benefit to the customer whatsoever and the only ones benefiting from this are applegreen and their business partners Lesuire breaks.

    Its a shame to see a new company and a company of this size to engage in this type of rip off.

    Personally I will not use their services again as they have broken my trust as a customer. I am a firm believer that if a business doesn't deliver on what is percieved to be quite clear from the outset then I will no longer be loyal to that business and will withdraw from using their services/garages for fuel.

    There are planty of other garages that compete on price with Applegreen and I will go that extra mile rather than give Applegreen my business in future.

    I am not the only one who has this gripe - liveline yesterday was full of callers livid about this and in some cases one caller was forced to spend 480euros for 3 nights to cover the min. spend requirement per person for meals at the hotel. I suppose I am lucky that I did notice this in advance as I guess I would have been one of those callers yesterday if I hadnt read the small print.

    I wont be taking my break with Applegreen and Lesuirebreaks and I will be throwing my voucher in the bin as my wheelie bin charge to dump my voucher will be a much cheaper option than availing of this rip off.

    Shame!


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭badinfleunce


    sexdwarf wrote: »
    This is disappointing. I do a lot of mileage and only have 5 stamps left to get. So for two of us for the three days we'd need to spend a minimum of 300 euro on food alone? That's crazy. I wouldn't spend that much money in a month on food. I'm disappointed now because it seemed to be the only holiday I was likely to afford this year :(

    I feel the exact same and betrayed by Applegreen. Look on the brightside that you havent parted with any money yet except on your fuel.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    We were collecting these tokens until one of the girls in our local Applegreen quietly showed us the booklet you buy for your 19.99. This is where you finally see the catch of the minimum spend (though the promotional posters do say you must pay for meals, no minimum spend is mentioned).

    We priced a three night stay in one of the hotels directly, it was half what it would be on this promo, with no loyalty to Applegreen or 19.99 payment required.

    Beware these offers, always check the small print. Though in this case by the time you see it, its too late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Depuy lady


    Hi,

    Can I ask every time I pass an apple green station they have two prices up for petrol, how can a customer buy petrol at the cheaper price?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Shifty


    If you buy a carwash from Applegreen you can buy your petrol at a cheaper price!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kensington


    Depuy lady wrote: »
    Hi,

    Can I ask every time I pass an apple green station they have two prices up for petrol, how can a customer buy petrol at the cheaper price?
    By buying a carwash at the same time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Shifty wrote: »
    If you buy a carwash from Applegreen you can buy your petrol at a cheaper price!

    Or you could just wash your car at home and save even more money by not buying a crappy garage wash.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    qz wrote: »
    Forgot about them! Still have my sports bag somewhere!! :D

    I will never forget those things..... I used to work in the office that took care of all the orders from the garages and every month I spend 3 days hand counting the vouchers returned from garages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,984 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It is in conjunction with applegreen service stations and stamps are only issued by applegreen so in my book although it may be run by a different company my contact was with applegreen and they took 1000euros in fuel from me by misleading me into believing that I would get a holiday in my case for free as I had collected 100 stamps on the original booklet.

    The new booklet charges you 19.99, payable at the garage in return for a directory of hotels with a voucher in the back page - which in my mind is a bigger scam as the garage is now making 19.99 for the priviledge of ripping you off.

    There is no benefit to the customer whatsoever and the only ones benefiting from this are applegreen and their business partners Lesuire breaks.

    Its a shame to see a new company and a company of this size to engage in this type of rip off.

    Personally I will not use their services again as they have broken my trust as a customer. I am a firm believer that if a business doesn't deliver on what is percieved to be quite clear from the outset then I will no longer be loyal to that business and will withdraw from using their services/garages for fuel.

    There are planty of other garages that compete on price with Applegreen and I will go that extra mile rather than give Applegreen my business in future.

    I am not the only one who has this gripe - liveline yesterday was full of callers livid about this and in some cases one caller was forced to spend 480euros for 3 nights to cover the min. spend requirement per person for meals at the hotel. I suppose I am lucky that I did notice this in advance as I guess I would have been one of those callers yesterday if I hadnt read the small print.

    I wont be taking my break with Applegreen and Lesuirebreaks and I will be throwing my voucher in the bin as my wheelie bin charge to dump my voucher will be a much cheaper option than availing of this rip off.

    Shame!

    Fair point re the Joint promotion and yes apple green should take responsibility. I made the point that this is not a new scam, a number of third party companies have been at this lark for quite a while. Originally Hotels where happy to fill rooms on the assumption punters would spend in the bar and restaurant. The opposite in fact happened so combined with rooms being given away for free practically, punters dined a drank elsewhere mindful of value for money. For the record, a hotel room charged at less than €35 per night is running at a loss. Live line did indeed feature this issue yesterday but again, its not the first time such an issue was raised. finally for anyone using these vouchers, rest assured the menus you are offered at basic with poor if any choice.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    The gross profit on fuel is about 10c per litre between distribution & retail (pumps.ie) - so when you take into account all the costs (staff, stations, utilities etc) there's feck all net profit, so no offer from a petrol station will be amazing.

    I got one of these cards, read the T&C's quickly and binned it as its not any exceptional offer and there are too many hoops to jump through to save a few quid.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    People. it is nearly always far far more cheaper to book a hotel in ireland directly rather than go thru a promo.

    Some hotels on the super-value breaks require u spend so much aswell, then some hotels don't. The ones that don't require a minimum spend usually only provide a seperate menu for you with less choices and all lower priced items anyway.

    If you can haggle on the phone you will get a cheaper price. Hotels are screaming for business these days


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭richieb


    petrol station in ticknock cobh co. cork is running the same promotion if you could call it that


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭here.from.day.1


    Quite disappointed with this, got all the stamps and planned to buy the voucher today.. was looking forward to a little break. :(


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    To all who arent getting a holiday after all... there are a lot of breaks on offer that are madly reasonable compared to normal times. My parents just came back from Gleneagle, Killarney, 4 nights B&B + 3 dinners €120 pps. Commodore in Cobh was doing B&B for 26 quid a few weeks ago too.

    If theres a place you like ask to be put on a mailing list for offers. Hotels are crying out for business right now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    I will never buy fuel from Applegreen again after this clearly deceitful campaign.


    The Supervalu promotion is excellent. If hotels don't like the scheme then why would they join it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Has ANYONE on this thread who has an issue with this emailed or otherwise contacted applegreen, by any chance? Just a thought.

    Personally I always use them because other than Tesco they're the only station anywhere near me with cheap prices; they give a better price (2c cheaper per L) if you fill up after 11pm, and 5c a litre off when you buy a carwash - and when I get in the door they give me 2 500ml bottles of Coke for €2 which is cheaper than a supermarket.

    Honesty is important allright (not that I think this campaign is any more dishonest than many others are), but the money coming out of my wallet has a higher influence on me tbh. They'll definitely be keeping my business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,984 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Curious about tesco petrol being the cheapest in your area, come to Tullamore, they are riding us. Off the wall prices. Someone else asked why do hotels use the super value promotions. Quite simple really, this scheme started at a time when occupancy rates where low, the focus was initially aimed at attracting customers mid week only, the naive hope was that punters would make up for discounted rooms by spending in the bars and restaurants. This back fired as punters sought better value and in some cases better standards elsewhere, local pubs etc. Now the Hotels are hitting back, insisting punters dine in house and if not, they will charge anyway for what would be basic menu choices and options. It is very, very difficult to get a super value break at weekends or peak times, although i suspect this has changed now the hotel business is in the toilet.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭SueWho


    I can't understand the problem you people have.

    -Collect 50 stamps (free since you've to buy petrol anyway)
    -Pay €20 for voucher
    -Use voucher code to book up to 3 nights in a hotel, all you pay for is breakfast and dinner
    -Hotels have minimum spends of €40-60 per person per day on breakfast and dinner (combined)

    So for a 2 night stay a couple would pay (including €20 voucher cost) €180-260 including breakfast and dinner on both days. What is wrong with this?

    €260 wouldn't even cover the cost of paying for one member of staff the minimum wage for 48 hour

    And why the rage over the minimum spend? Were you going to try to get away with buying a cup of tea for "breakfast" and a starter for "dinner"? Or were you going to pack sandwiches and your own alcohol? i.e. you really expected to get a hotel room for 3 nights for the voucher cost of €20 and then spend next to NOTHING in the actual hotel.

    I know there's a recession but people need to get real. As this offer already stands the hotels seems to be selling below cost. How can they go any lower? It's no wonder hotels are closing down and letting people go- the lot of ye on this forum seem to want to s*crew them over and not pay a fair price at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    It works out much cheaper to book a hotel and just eat where you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭sexdwarf


    SueWho wrote: »
    I can't understand the problem you people have.

    My only problem is that you have to pay out money before you get the brochure where this 'minimum spend' is revealed. If you then discover that you can't afford the minimum spend, there's twenty euro down the toilet for nothing. 20 euro might not be much to some people, but for many at the moment - especially those likely to be looking for a very cheap holiday - it's a week's worth of grocery shopping!

    Also you need to pay for three days, not two, which racks the cost up to €300 MINIMUM for two of you. There is no deal here, I could go out and book the same if not much cheaper for myself for a hotel if I shopped around. Why advertise it as a €20 euro deal when it's nothing of the sort. It's not even the cost that irritates me, it's the sneaky way of doing the business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    SueWho wrote: »
    I can't understand the problem you people have.

    -Collect 50 stamps (free since you've to buy petrol anyway)
    -Pay €20 for voucher
    -Use voucher code to book up to 3 nights in a hotel, all you pay for is breakfast and dinner
    -Hotels have minimum spends of €40-60 per person per day on breakfast and dinner (combined)

    So for a 2 night stay a couple would pay (including €20 voucher cost) €180-260 including breakfast and dinner on both days. What is wrong with this?

    €260 wouldn't even cover the cost of paying for one member of staff the minimum wage for 48 hour

    And why the rage over the minimum spend? Were you going to try to get away with buying a cup of tea for "breakfast" and a starter for "dinner"? Or were you going to pack sandwiches and your own alcohol? i.e. you really expected to get a hotel room for 3 nights for the voucher cost of €20 and then spend next to NOTHING in the actual hotel.

    I know there's a recession but people need to get real. As this offer already stands the hotels seems to be selling below cost. How can they go any lower? It's no wonder hotels are closing down and letting people go- the lot of ye on this forum seem to want to s*crew them over and not pay a fair price at all.

    No Offense but this is utter nonsense. €260 is expensive these days for a hotel especially when you could probably get the room a lot Cheaper by going through the hotel directly without being bound to eat there.

    What has the over heads of the hotel got to do with anything? I stayed in a travelodge recently for €29 for a night. €29 barely scratches the surface of the overheads the Hotel has.

    The simple fact as others have mentioned the tourism industry is suffering badly right now and Hotels are doing deals all over the place. You can even negotiate with Hotels these days.

    Back on topic that the OP mentioned. I would hardly call this a scam. I'm sure you will find the Terms and Conditions state the the "Actual" cost. I don't understand why so many fail to read terms and conditions and know what the deal is before jumping in head first. So many people get bought in by the word "FREE" far too often. Nothing in life is free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭sexdwarf


    I'm sure you will find the Terms and Conditions state the the "Actual" cost. I don't understand why so many fail to read terms and conditions and know what the deal is before jumping in head first. So many people get bought in by the word "FREE" far too often. Nothing in life is free.

    Ahh but you're missing the point, the minimum spend is NOT in the terms and conditions of the loyalty card. It's not until you part with your 20euro to get the details that this sum is revealed in the hotels brochure you're handed...that's the problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭sexdwarf


    sdonn wrote: »
    Has ANYONE on this thread who has an issue with this emailed or otherwise contacted applegreen, by any chance? Just a thought.

    Yes of course!


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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I priced an actual three night stay directly with one of the hotels with meals and it was cheaper than the 'offer' from Applegreen. Also, the loyalty card ann posters just specify that you must buy meals, I saw no mention of minimum spend, until youve paid for the voucher (or in our case were given a sneaky peek).

    So that is my problem with this special offer, its not special, its paying over the odds, while making you feel youve got deal. The actual facts of the deal are hidden till youve paid your money, when it is too late. Its not a fantastic deal, and they are misleading people into paying over money without being fully informed of the t&cs before they pay. They may have covered themselves legally with the small print they DO have on the card, but its still underhanded.


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