Dublin Metrolink (just Metrolink posts here -see post #1 )

Idbatterim

I dropped my mum off at windy arbor luas yesterday at 6:30pm and it was a sardine can heading into the city centre. I didn’t expect that , I knew outbound it would be mental , but didn’t expect that inbound!

The below just appeared in Irish times, doesn’t surprise me and unlike the many many many fianna or Berlin Wall gob****es, knocking down people’s homes, I am not surprised it meeting opposition, any of us here, even the biggest anti nimby, would do the same!

https://www.irishtimes...p-1.3690751?mode=amp

marno21

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/campaign-to-save-dublin-buildings-from-metrolink-demolition-steps-up-1.3690751

This agenda does not surprise me.

D.L.R.

Can we not build this station underneath the existing Tara St forecourt outside the station, and knock Kennedys pub to make room.

Two birds, one stone.

salmocab

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/campaign-to-save-dublin-buildings-from-metrolink-demolition-steps-up-1.3690751

This agenda does not surprise me.

The article actually says owners are worried they wouldn’t be able to buy in the same area, I’d be happy enough that they will mostly take the CPO cash that’s offered if the premium over market value is enough.
Money will be regained when the station is built and a new apartment block can go in with extra apartments.
They can afford to give these people a good pay off because unlike most CPOs the land can be used again once the works are done (obviously the station needs to be built in a way that allows a building go up over it).

marno21

RTE also reporting it now

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1108/1009649-metrolink-townsend-street/

Sam Russell

The Metro will not start construction for a few years and not finish for nearly a decade. They may not reach Tara St for five years, by which time those currently living in that tower block could well have moved out.

I did not think 500 people lived there. It is certainly a small price to pay to have a Metro service to the airport from the city centre. They could build a larger block of flats apartments nearby with a big leisure centre in the basement.

More negative reporting.

not1but4

I seen this poster at a bus stop in Harold's Cross by none other than Eamon Ryan :rolleyes:

What he is talking about here is doubling if not more the cost of Metrolink rather than relatively small cost of upgrading the Luas. Thankfully he seems to be the only person shouting for it and its just vote winning exercise for him as he has nothing to lose.

BonnieSituation

D.L.R. wrote: »

Can we not build this station underneath the existing Tara St forecourt outside the station, and knock Kennedys pub to make room.

Two birds, one stone.

You won't be touching Kennedy's. There's a reason it's still there.

Very listed and very important part of historic Dublin. On site since 1800s. Soz bbz.

MetroLinker

BonnieSituation wrote: »

On site since 1800s.

It was built in 1905 (http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=DU&regno=50020311) but an "earlier building on this site served as an hotel and public house from the middle of the nineteenth century."

CatInABox

D.L.R. wrote: »

Can we not build this station underneath the existing Tara St forecourt outside the station, and knock Kennedys pub to make room.

Two birds, one stone.

Doesn't look like there's enough room there to dig the station box without knocking the ground floor Tara St station building, which would essentially remove one of the busiest stations in Dublin for months, possibly (probably, in my opinion) over a year.

Then you're left with the fact that all interchange passengers will be joining at the north end of the platform again. Even now, it can be crowded at that end of the platform, people don't seem to want to move down for some reason.

Dats me

@MetroLinker is there any chance you could update is re NTA and College Gate? I don't mean to pry or anything, just if you were able/felt comfortable I'm sure people would be interested

MetroLinker

Dats me wrote: »

@MetroLinker is there any chance you could update is re NTA and College Gate? I don't mean to pry or anything, just if you were able/felt comfortable I'm sure people would be interested

I didn't attend the meeting so can't update you. When I spoke to someone, they said that the delay to January was mentioned.

Dats me

MetroLinker wrote: »

I didn't attend the meeting so can't update you. When I spoke to someone, they said that the delay to January was mentioned.

Very fair, thank you.

BonnieSituation

MetroLinker wrote: »

It was built in 1905 (http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=DU&regno=50020311) but an "earlier building on this site served as an hotel and public house from the middle of the nineteenth century."

I should've said, "pub on site".

bk

not1but4 wrote: »

I seen this poster at a bus stop in Harold's Cross by none other than Eamon Ryan :rolleyes:

What he is talking about here is doubling if not more the cost of Metrolink rather than relatively small cost of upgrading the Luas. Thankfully he seems to be the only person shouting for it and its just vote winning exercise for him as he has nothing to lose.

God, that is mad! That would turn the Metrolink into a 5 to 6 billion project! Not a hope it would get built then.

Fecking Ryan and the Greens, first they gave us cancer causing Diesel cars, now they want to kill the Metro! :mad:

salmocab

bk wrote: »

God, that is mad! That would turn the Metrolink into a 5 to 6 billion project! Not a hope it would get built then.

Fecking Ryan and the Greens, first they gave us cancer causing Diesel cars, now they want to kill the Metro! :mad:

Ryan is a terrible green, he cares far more about elections than the environment

Also apparently he draws like a child

D.L.R.

Ryan's off his rocker with that proposal. Its like a child's drawing. And its 3 separate projects.

Baffling.

dublinman1990

Eamon Ryan is completely off his nut with that proposal for linking up the Metro with the Luas; especially for the proposed Luas link to Booterstown DART Station. The proposal for that area will never happen whatsoever. It is just plain nonsense & an utter farce.

salmocab

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Eamon Ryan is completely off his nut with that proposal for linking up the Metro with the Luas; especially for the proposed Luas link to Booterstown DART Station. The proposal for that area will never happen whatsoever. It is just plain nonsense & an utter farce.

I think it should go without saying that anything Ryan suggests will never happen. His party couldn’t be more irrelevant which is impressive as now more than ever people are concerned for the environment.

Sam Russell

Mod: Can we leave Eamonn Ryan with the fairies and concentrate on the published route. There is a thread for alternative dreams for Metrolink

marno21

Full page article on the various options including CPOs in today's Sunday Business Post for anyone interested

Dats me

Any chance you could post a photo of it? I don't have a subscription

CatInABox

Turns out Dublin City Council have no problem with tearing down buildings around Tara St, they voted to delist Pearse House and Markievicz House from the Record of Protected Structures, and hope to press ahead with the demolition and total replacement of the structures.

See here.

In fairness to them, I also agree with the decision. As much as I love the look of those buildings, I don't have to live there. Sounds like a right hellhole right now.

L1011

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You won't be touching Kennedy's. There's a reason it's still there.

Very listed and very important part of historic Dublin. On site since 1800s. Soz bbz.

The refurb to generic hipster pub has removed any character and made it ripe for delisting.

Old Kennedy's was worth saving, the same owners decided to make it pointless to protect

D.L.R.

https://www.fm104.ie/news/ranelagh-row-set-to-rumble-on/

RANELAGH ROW SET TO RUMBLE ON

Keeping Dunville Avenue open after the construction of the Proposed Dublin Metro could cost €77 million.

That's according to the Sunday Business Post.

Local residents oppose the opening of a metro station at the current Beechwood Luas stop, as it would mean they have to travel through Ranelagh village to get to Rathmines, a journey of 1.2 kilometres.

The paper reports that the ReThink MetroLink group are looking for the tunnel to be extended further south - but a tunnel as far as Milltown could add a further 300 Million euro to the cost of the project.

cgcsb

not1but4 wrote: »

I seen this poster at a bus stop in Harold's Cross by none other than Eamon Ryan :rolleyes:

What he is talking about here is doubling if not more the cost of Metrolink rather than relatively small cost of upgrading the Luas. Thankfully he seems to be the only person shouting for it and its just vote winning exercise for him as he has nothing to lose.

Well we might as well abandon transport modelling and planning altogether then. Sorted. Now we just need to start printing money.

Brian CivilEng

cgcsb wrote: »

Well we might as well abandon transport modelling and planning altogether then. Sorted. Now we just need to start printing money.

That explains why there is a proposed stop at The Mint.

Kellyconor1982

Ridiculous that in ten years all of these folks in Glasnevin/Ranelagh will be giving out if things don't change, yet they have the opportunity to have a top class rail system on their door step and seem miserable about it. I know it's a minority in these areas but a vocal one. Spoiled brat syndrome.

The only reason I want this luas line prioritised to metro is that it will lead to another two metros in the next 20 to 25 years imo. This with a dart underground could give us a top class transport system.
The harolds cross/rathmines through terenure, rathfarnham and knocklyon route is so glaringly obvious and needs to be built asap after this. I would also do the metro west starting in dundrum right through rathfarnham, knocklyon, on to it's original route would be terrific. I know it isn't the right thread but i'm a little tired of the goings on of many on the projected m1 route and wished they realised how lucky they are.

Marcusm

D.L.R. wrote: »

https://www.fm104.ie/news/ranelagh-row-set-to-rumble-on/

RANELAGH ROW SET TO RUMBLE ON

Keeping Dunville Avenue open after the construction of the Proposed Dublin Metro could cost €77 million.

That's according to the Sunday Business Post.

Local residents oppose the opening of a metro station at the current Beechwood Luas stop, as it would mean they have to travel through Ranelagh village to get to Rathmines, a journey of 1.2 kilometres.

The paper reports that the ReThink MetroLink group are looking for the tunnel to be extended further south - but a tunnel as far as Milltown could add a further 300 Million euro to the cost of the project.

Realistic call I think there is more outcry in Ranelagh at the loss of pedestrian routes than car access. That being said, closing Dunville Ave would mean no East/west route between Milltown Road and Charleston Road which, at current traffic levels, would have a consequent knock on effect on bus traffic (18/142 principally).

Personally, I suspect that the compromise will ll be metro tying in at “Beechwood South”. Realistically, while the Harold’s X, Terenure etc route is v attractive, it’s probably too late for such a radical alteration to be proposed at this stage. The Greens should have been on top of it before now.

Qrt

Marcusm wrote: »

it’s probably too late for such a radical alteration to be proposed at this stage. The Greens should have been on top of it before now.

I think it's more a case of it'd be too expensive, considering the "Dublin gets everything" attitude when it comes to PT – the project would just die really. Keep in mine, there are still murals of the DART in Killinarden...