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1st islamic terrorist plot in Ireland ? ?

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  • #62
    MaybeLogic
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Do not even attempt to equate a plot to kill a cartoonist over a cartoon with the Irish struggle for independence.

    I think he/she was equating innocent Irish people with innocent Muslims.


  • #63
    Biggins
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Do not even attempt to equate a plot to kill a cartoonist over a cartoon with the Irish struggle for independence.
    Sorry, it has to be said.

    Between the Irish struggle for independence and a cartoonist - there is a line drawn somewhere between them. :D

    ;)

    I'll get my coat.


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
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    I will vouch 100euro to the 2010 Santa Strikeforce if boards.ie changes their logo to cartoon in question for a day.


  • #65
    Morlar
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Biggins wrote: »
    Sorry, it has to be said.

    Between the Irish struggle for independence and a cartoonist - there is a line drawn somewhere between them. :D

    ;)

    I'll get my coat.

    That's a very badly drawn comparison there biggins.


  • #66
    Biggins
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Morlar wrote: »
    That's a very badly drawn comparison there biggins.
    I know, a bit sketchy. :o


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  • #67
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    All I know is I'm very happy that I'm not the Mod of the Humour Forum, there's a Mohammed lol thread in there :eek:


  • #68
    SV
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I will vouch 100euro to the 2010 Santa Strikeforce if boards.ie changes their logo to cartoon in question for a day.

    I'll donate 500 if they do it

    edit: as long as it's on a significant day for muslims


  • #69
    Morlar
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Biggins wrote: »
    I know, a bit sketchy. :o

    I think together we can all colour in any grey areas on this.


  • #70
    Biggins
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Morlar wrote: »
    I think together we can all colour in any grey areas on this.
    A lot of things are never black and white. :cool:


  • #71
    OutlawPete
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Clemon wrote: »
    Its time to get tough with the curry eatin creeps

    :eek:

    /puts down last nights left over Curry


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  • #72
    dvpower
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    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Do not even attempt to equate a plot to kill a cartoonist over a cartoon with the Irish struggle for independence.

    Yeah. You can't compare an unjustified attempt to kill a cartoonist with, say, the murder of school children in a litter bin bomb.


  • #73
    Biggins
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    dvpower wrote: »
    Yeah. You can't compare an unjustified attempt to kill a cartoonist with, say, the murder of school children in a litter bin bomb.
    With respect to both sides, please let us not go down that old road again. Lets deal with the present case. :)


  • #74
    IrishManSaipan
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    dvpower wrote: »
    Yeah. You can't compare an unjustified attempt to kill a cartoonist with, say, the murder of school children in a litter bin bomb.

    A horrible atrocity alright, but whats its got to do with an attempt to muder a Danish cartoonist by radical muslim refugees in Waterford?


  • #75
    oceanclub
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    This cartoonist's life is in danger. Yet the guy who drew Scrappy Doo walks around freely. It's a strange world.

    P.


  • #76
    ynotdu
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Do not even attempt to equate a plot to kill a cartoonist over a cartoon with the Irish struggle for independence.

    The Cartoonist knew he was going to offend Islamic Terrorists.
    I will attempt to stop hate filled,jumping to conclusion posts when i can as a rush to judgement put many innocent Irish people into jail during the fight for Independance from which ever era You choose.

    In the end the Paramilitarys realised the future was jaw jaw not war war.
    accepted that their tactics to overthrow an oppressive Govt and then direct rule had no other way to go than the path of Peace.

    Dont even attempt to accuse Me of not seeing the big picture of Irish liberation!!!!!!
    but also a fair trial should be given to all,not a reactionary response because 'muslims are terrorists' or even that all Irish people were then as well.


  • #77
    dvpower
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    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    A horrible atrocity alright, but whats its got to do with an attempt to muder a Danish cartoonist by radical muslim refugees in Waterford?

    You brought up the Irish struggle for independence. The Warrington bombing was an action by the IRA in furtherance of this goal.

    The IRA presumably felt that this atrocity was justified as part of their struggle fatwa. The Muslim refugees in Waterford, if they are guilty, most likely feel that they too are justified.


  • #78
    IrishManSaipan
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    ynotdu wrote: »
    The Cartoonist knew he was going to offend Islamic Terrorists.

    So he should be executed?


  • #79
    ynotdu
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    So he should be executed?

    NO,but he knew what he was doing and did it,now like Rushdie He needs 24/7 protection at whatever that costs.
    It's free speech but it comes at a heavy price when irrational people use it to justify murder.


  • #80
    Morlar
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    So he should be executed?

    I think years from now people will look back on this period as the one where islamist fundamentalism threatened the west.

    Authors, website bloggers, cartoonists, film and cartoon makers & anyone in the arts - all now operate under the threat of death if they portray mohammed (in a light that religious islamists don't approve of).

    I think it's important for the west to stand up to this.

    One move in this direction would be to DEPORT from Europe any islamists who are here as refugees and who attempt to threaten or harm anyone on the basis that they created a piece of art/fiction/entertainment that the islamists did not approve of.


  • #81
    irishconvert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    Morlar wrote: »
    & the ego and the kudos that goes with the glory of beheading or otherwise killing a christian. .
    Sorry, but please stop with this ****e.
    Biggins wrote: »
    With respect to both sides, please let us not go down that old road again. Lets deal with the present case. :)
    Why? Because it does not suit some people to acknowledge that Irish people were involved in terrorist attacks in the UK, with the support of large numbers of Irish back home? Even now, anytime the Fields of Athenry is sung, there are lots of idiots (terrorist supporters) chanting IRA/Sinn Fein.


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  • #82
    Jazzy
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZVfyQyu9RY


  • #83
    mikom
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    How much fun would it be to create a join the dots version of that pic, then circulate to all their schools.

    I can see it now........... 1,2,3,4,... I'm having so much fun mammy....... 909, 910, 911, finished.......... this doesn't look right, NOOOOOOO DAMN YoUUUUUUUUUU.


  • #84
    irishconvert
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    Morlar wrote: »
    One move in this direction would be to DEPORT from Europe any islamists who are here as refugees and who attempt to threaten or harm anyone on the basis that they created a piece of art/fiction/entertainment that the islamists did not approve of.

    Why do we need to create a new law when we already have laws in place to deal with ANYONE who engages in this sort of crime?


  • #85
    IrishManSaipan
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Morlar wrote: »
    I think years from now people will look back on this period as the one where islamist fundamentalism threatened the west.

    Authors, website bloggers, cartoonists, film and cartoon makers & anyone in the arts - all now operate under the threat of death if they portray mohammed (in a light that religious islamists don't approve of).

    I think it's important for the west to stand up to this.

    One move in this direction would be to DEPORT from Europe any islamists who are here as refugees and who attempt to threaten or harm anyone on the basis that they created a piece of art/fiction/entertainment that the islamists did not approve of.

    Couldnt agree more.

    As usual the apologists try and distract readers from the relevant topic at hand. This is a most serious development, one of which the apologists would have scoffed at if it had been suggested previously.

    We live in interesting times.
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  • #86
    Morlar
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    Originally Posted by Morlar View Post
    & the ego and the kudos that goes with the glory of beheading or otherwise killing a christian. .
    irishconvert wrote: »
    Sorry, but please stop with this ****e.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6999652.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6996553.stm

    The $100,000 (£49,310) reward would be raised by 50% if Mr Vilks was "slaughtered like a lamb", he said.

    The $100,000 (£49,310) reward would be raised by 50% if Lars Vilks was "slaughtered like a lamb" said the audio message aired on the internet.


  • #87
    Biggins
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    If an islamist (or anyone) wants to be seen as truly fair, then they will have to accept that despite what they believe, others will think different.
    ...and if others do think if different, that its ok to draw a cartoon that some might not agree with - the islamist might not agree to its drawing but to be fair, must accept such things happen and be allowed happen.

    A religion group/islamist state can't go about shouting that their religion is just and fair if on one hand they are calling for the killing of a cartoonist and on the other hand, cry that the rest of the world is not being fair to them!


  • #88
    IrishManSaipan
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    irishconvert wrote: »
    Why? Because it does not suit some people to acknowledge that Irish people were involved in terrorist attacks in the UK, with the support of large numbers of Irish back home? Even now, anytime the Fields of Athenry is sung, there are lots of idiots (terrorist supporters) chanting IRA/Sinn Fein.

    The IRA have disbanded. They no longer exist. Sinn Fein are in Stormount.

    I love this logic, the IRA previously carried out attacks during the troubles, so we should stand idly by when refugees from the middle east do similar in Ireland over a foooking cartoon.:pac:


  • #89
    Morlar
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    No - they should be allowed to stay even if guilty
    irishconvert wrote: »
    Why do we need to create a new law when we already have laws in place to deal with ANYONE who engages in this sort of crime?

    Because if you come here as a refugee and rely on the charity of the Irish taxpayer - then plot to murder innocent human beings then you are no longer entitled to our charity and should be removed back to fúckedupistan or wherever the hell they are from. This is of course AFTER the law is finished with them. After they have served their sentences. That's why.


  • #90
    irishconvert
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    Morlar wrote: »
    Because if you come here as a refugee and rely on the charity of the Irish taxpayer - then plot to murder innocent human beings then you are no longer entitled to our charity and should be removed back to fúckedupistan or wherever the hell they are from.

    But we already have laws in place to deal with people hwo harm/murder others. Tell me why you think we need a new law that targets Muslims specifically?


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  • #91
    mikom
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    Morlar wrote: »
    Because if you come here as a refugee and rely on the charity of the Irish taxpayer - then plot to murder innocent human beings then you are no longer entitled to our charity

    In essence it's state sponsored terrorism.


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