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ceegee

A Primal Nut wrote: »

The Rock's grandfather and Reigns grandfather were Samoan blood brothers in the sense of "two or more men not related by birth who have sworn loyalty to each other".

Don't know how you can call them glorified jobbers.

Reigns headlined WrestleMania and is a future WWE champion for sure.
Yokozuna headlined WrestleMania twice; was a 2-time WWE champion and is a hall of famer.
Umaga was in the biggest match of WrestleMania 2007; and won 2 Intercontinental titles; he would have achieved so much more if not for his drug issues and early death.
Rikishi was one of WWE's biggest stars in one of their most successful years, 2000; was Intercontinental champion and is a Hall of Famer.
The Wild Samoans won tag titles all over the place and were 3-time WWE tag team champions. They are also Hall of Famers.
The Uso's are two time Tag Champions and possibly the most successful of any tag team around right now, which admittedly isn't saying much.
Haku had a very good career and was considered one of the most legitimately tough guys in wrestling.

That's four WWE hall of famers.

It's difficult to think of another family where so many guys achieved so much in the WWE/WWF. Add in the Rock's side of the family and it's not even close.

Haku isn't related to the others (or Samoan)

cena

Was the song off the album used in wwe before. I know it from somewhere
https://youtu.be/ns2ngHcB8SE

Maniamax

What was the name of that youtube series where a few Irish lads reviewed old and new WWE shows?

Omackeral

That's OSW, the Old School Wrestling review brought to you in glorious Grapplevision. They chronologically critique errrrr'ythang.


Here's a link to the thread.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056267623

ricero

What was the main reasons behind Kurt angle leaving the wwe ?

rovert

ricero wrote: »

What was the main reasons behind Kurt angle leaving the wwe ?

That's a detailed story. But essentially he refused rehab and WWE didn't want him or an Olympic Gold Medalist to die under contract.

diusmr8a504cvk

How much was Hulk Hogan making in WCW?

Kolido

Have any other WWE PPVs taken place outdoors apart from Wrestlemanias and SS92 ?

A Primal Nut

rovert wrote: »

That's a detailed story. But essentially he refused rehab and WWE didn't want him or an Olympic Gold Medalist to die under contract.

Yep they didn't want him to die but at the same time they refused to give him a lighter schedule which would have made life easier for him.

A Primal Nut

Beckett Gorgeous Bride wrote: »

How much was Hulk Hogan making in WCW?

Not sure of figures but much of his income came from his 25% cut of PPV revenue.

Tugboats

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Not sure of figures but much of his income came from his 25% cut of PPV revenue.

on top of that and his salary he got $25k per Nitro appearance. The whole thing obviously ran into the millions per year

ricero

Hulkamania ain't cheap brother !

Tugboats

ricero wrote: »

Hulkamania ain't cheap brother !

Hes a great negotiator but also one of the biggest cancers the business has ever seen. Its sad that the WWE laid off ordinary employees with the launch of the network but have no issue paying Hogan to limp to the ring

Sirsok

Tugboats wrote: »

Hes a great negotiator but also one of the biggest cancers the business has ever seen. Its sad that the WWE laid off ordinary employees with the launch of the network but have no issue paying Hogan to limp to the ring

Biggest cancer in the business? Wouldn't be a business without Hogan, carried the WWF and then transformed WCW....whatever he did in TNA aside...to call him a cancer to the business is a diagrace

Tugboats

Sirsok wrote: »

Biggest cancer in the business? Wouldn't be a business without Hogan, carried the WWF and then transformed WCW....whatever he did in TNA aside...to call him a cancer to the business is a diagrace

How did that work out?

ShagNastii

Tugboats wrote: »

How did that work out?

He(and the whole NWO angle) were a major reason that WCW surpassed WWE for a time. Whether he is a a**hole or not. That can't be sniffed at.

At it's peak WCW was amazing and there is no doubt Hogan and his fueds certainly made it so.

Tugboats

ShagNastii wrote: »

He(and the whole NWO angle) were a major reason that WCW surpassed WWE for a time. Whether he is a a**hole or not. That can't be sniffed at.

At it's peak WCW was amazing and there is no doubt Hogan and his fueds certainly made it so.

so Hogan gets the praise for WCW but avoid of blame when things went tits up. It about time people took off their childhood yellow and red tinted glasses

1985 - Would Hogan be willing to work a program with Rick Steamboat if Steamboat agreed to turn heel? No. Give him Big John Studd instead.

1986 - Hogan-Savage is tentatively planned for WM 2, after the two had feuded in house shows which Savage had won by DQ or countout. Hogan nixes the idea of facing the dynamic, atheltic Savage at 'Mania, even though he would be booked to win. Hogan handpicks King Kong Bundy to embarass in a cage match. Savage wrestles George Steele far down the undercard.

1986 - Hogan agrees to work with Paul Orndorff, but won't do the job to him. Hogan agrees only because he is guarenteed a win at a huge event. He defeats Orndorff in a cage match on SNME to end the feud.

1987 - Hogan again turns down the idea of feuding with Savage; but suggests turning him face, so Hogan can step aside for awhile, film a movie and get some needed rest.
Savage turns face that summer.

1988 - Hogan agrees to "drop" the belt to Andre, but only under questionable circumstances to preserve his character. Hogan agrees to "give the rub" to Savage at WM IV. Hogan only agrees because he is promised he will get the title back at WM 5.

1988 - Six months later, as Savage is having a successful run, Hogan suggests putting them together as a team "Mega Powers" and they headline Summerslam. Hogan is no longer the champion - but still in the main event.

1989 - Hogan finally meets Savage at Wrestlemania V. Hogan beats him for the title. Rather than face Savage in the anticipated rematch at Summerslam, or a program with Rick Rude as creative suggests - Hogan deccides to go a different route.

Hogan suggests a tag team match, pitting himself and his close friend Brutus Beefcake, against Savage and an ACTOR, Tiny Lister who played Zeus in the Hogan film "No Holds Barred". The film opened that summer to decent business, so Hogan uses a WWE PPV to promote the film, while "giving the rub" to his friend Beefcake.

1990 - Hogan agrees to drop the belt to Ultimate Warrior at Wrestlemania. Only with a guarentee of an extended break and the promise he would get the title back. A month after 'Mania, Hogan is "attacked" by Earthquake and off TV for a few months. After teasing retirement on TV, Hogan returns at Summerslam as "Immortal" and vanquishes his good friend John Tenta (Earthquake).

1990 - To preserve the Warrior character, creative decides he will drop the title to someone OTHER than Hogan. Despite the allure of a Hogan/Warrior rematch - Randy Savage is rumoured to be the man Warrior will drop the belt to at Royal Rumble '91. Hogan suggests Sgt Slaughter. Slaughter has just returned as an "Iraqi sympathizer" and Hogan pushes for Slaughter to beat Warrior, then he can beat Slaughter to regain the belt.

1991 - Hogan defeats Slaughter a few months after "Desert Storm" starts. He waves his flag and defeats the Iraqi villan at Wrestlemania. After headlining Wrestlemania for the past two years, Savage and Warrior are reduced to the undercard.

1991 - Hogan again decides against a rematch with Warrior at Summerslam, and suggests they team together against Slaughter & The Iron Shiek. Six months after he had beaten Slaughter for the belt, he feels the feud is not over and that fans will tune in to watch him team with Warrior against "the enemy".

1991 - Hogan agrees to drop the title to Undertaker, but refuses to do a clean job to him. Ric Flair interferes in the match with a chair and 'Taker gets the win.

1992 - McMahon decides that Flair will win the title at Royal Rumble, then drop the title to Hogan in a "dream match" at Wrestlemania VIII. Hogan decides he wants to take another extended break after 'Mania. He suggests Flair drop the title to Savage instead and he can work with Sid Vicious and "give him the rub".

Despite the fact that Flair/Savage is the WWE Title match, it is placed in the middle of the show. Hogan and the lumbering Sid Vicious close the show. The first time the WWE Champion has not been in the main event of Wrestlemania.

1993 - Hogan agrees to return to team with Brutus Beefcake against Money Inc. at Wrestlemania and it appears to be the first time he will NOT be in the main event.

When Hogan learns that WWE Champion Bret Hart is scheduled to drop the title to Yokozuna, he informs McMahon that this will be the first Wrestlemania that a face doesn't win the main event and the "people aren't gonna like it". Hogan suggests "surprising" the audience by challenging Yoko immediately afterward and beating him to win the WWE Title. Vince McMahon agees. Hogan beats Yoko to regain the title.

1993 - McMahon and WWE creative suggests Hogan and Bret Hart engage in a face vs face match at Summerslam that will see Hogan "pass the torch" to Hart and drop the title.

Hogan turned the idea down, and agreed to drop the title back to Yokozuna, who in turn would drop it to Hart at SS. Some critics believe, however, that Hogan simply didn't want to drop the title to the new flagship of the company.

Hogan drops the belt to Yoko at KOTR (but doesn't drop it cleanly), while WWE goes with the failed Lex Luger "US Express" idea. Hogan leaves WWE two months later and does not appear at Summerslam.

1994 - Hogan signs with WCW after being courted by Ric Flair and Eric Bischoff. Hogan insisted on "complete creative control" over the Hulk Hogan character and a certain perrcentage of EACH PPV TOTAL REVENUE.

1994 - A three match series is planned with Hogan/Flair. Hogan would win the first, Flair would regain it and Hogan would win the finale. All parties agree.

Hogan wins the WCW World Title from Ric Flair in his first match back in a year. When the time comes for Flair to regain the title, Hogan refuses, saying the fans "weren't ready for him to drop it".

Flair later admits in his book, that fans were already booing Hogan at shows, but that WCW was dubbing in a "cheering crowd soundtrack".

The subsequent PPVs featuring Flair/Hogan fail to sell.

1994 - Hogan negotiates for former WWE stars and Hogan allies Brutus Beefcake, Earthquake and Typhoon to join WCW.

Creative suggests Hogan face Sting in a face vs face "dream match" at Starrcade. Hogan decides it makes better sense for him to face Beefcake as the heel, "The Butcher". The PPV flops.

1995 - Hogan convinces Randy Savage to leave WWE and join WCW. Instead of starting a feud between the two former WWE Champions, Hogan insists on teaming with Savage against Kevin Sullivan and his 3 Faces of Fear.

1995 - Hogan agrees to work with Vader, but the program soon falls apart when both acuse the other of "not selling for the other".

Fans are steadily losing interest in WCW. The company begins to falter seriously, as executives point at the Hogan contract and "creative control" agreement as being a main culprit. Hogan takes extended time off - but remains the highest paid man on the roster.

1996 - With WCW desperate to compete with WWE, WCW signs Hall and Nash and plot the NWO angle. Hogan is booked to turn heel and he agrees. The angle is a smash. Within weeks, Hogan wins the World Title from The Giant.

Instead of milking fresh matchups as a heel, Hogan decides that WCW should bring in Roddy Piper. Despite the possibility of a Starrcade matchup with Lex Luger or The Giant - Hogan faces Piper in a cage match in the main event. Hogan puts over Piper via the sleeperhold, in a NON-TITLE match.

1997 - Hogan feuds with Piper and Savage, while turning down suggestions he put over Luger or Diamond Dallas Page for the title. He appears weekly, but rarely wrestles on TV, while still remaining the highest paid star in WCW.

1997 - In his much hyped Starrcade match with Sting, it was decided that Hogan would beat Sting after an alleged "fast count" by referee Nick Patrick. WCW's newly contracted Bret Hart would accuse Patrick and have the match restarted with Sting winning by submission.

Hogan reportedly paid off referee Patrick, to count normally and make it look like Hogan had pinned Sting cleanly. When this DID happen, the planned finish played out - but fans booed because it was clearly botched and made Sting look bad.

1998 - Hogan agreed to put over Goldberg cleanly on Nitro, but with the condition that Karl Malone & DDP get involved to prompt a Hogan/Dennis Rodman team to debut on PPV at Bash At The Beach. Hogan promoted the match on "The Tonight Show" and later teamed with Bischoff against DDP and Jay Leno HIMSELF!

The Hogan celebrity tag team matches stole all the attention while WCW Champion Goldberg was all but ignored.

1999 - After six months without the title, and still being the top guy, Hogan regained the title from Kevin Nash in the "Fingerpoke of Doom" incident. Openly flaunting his creative control clause. He would lose the title, but not cleanly to Ric Flair.

When the NWO angle began to lose serious steam, Hogan turned face again. Randy Savage had recently turned heel and regained the WCW Title.

Once again, this time conviently as a face, Hogan defeated Savage to regain the title.

Despite having names like Hart, Luger and Sting to work with Savage - the title went baclk to Hogan. At his request.

2000 - Hogan begins feuding with WCW booker Vince Russo over how he's being used. Russo wanted to push younger stars and to appease Russo only, Hogan worked with young Billy Kidman.

When a WCW Title match with Jeff Jarrett was booked, Russo had Jarrett winning. Hogan refused, because his contract with WCW was almost up and he feared Russo wouldn't use him on future PPV events. Meaning Hogan would lose out on serious cash.

Russo pulled a swerve on Hogan by having Jarrett lay down for him intentionally. Hogan did so, winning the belt - then was immeditaely stripped of it.

Hogan was never seen in WCW again.

2002 - Hogan accepts an offer to return to WWE and reunite the original NWO, with the understanding he would be in a featured match with The Rock at Wrestlemania X8.

Hogan scored a huge deal from WWE, and agreed to put over The Rock. He suggests they close the show as he felt "they had drawn the crowd" - but McMahon and specifically Triple H refuse to put the WWE Title match in a secondary role.

Hogan is later booked to win the title from Triple H, but is dissapointed when it comes with the condition he drop it to Undertaker a month later.

After being booked to lose to Kurt Angle at KOTR 2002, Hogan decided he needed time off again. Despite only having been back for all of four months.

Hogan is convinced to stay long enough to get in a quick tag team championship win with Edge. He is then asked to put over Brock Lesnar, which he does.

He is dissatisfied with his role, because he isn't be portrayed the way "he thought he would". He takes another "extended break" after the Lesnar match.

2003 - He returns at the request of Vince McMahon and the promise of a big Wrestlemania payday. Their street fight is a featured match on the card.

With the WWE Title now revolving around much younger wrestlers, Hogan is frustrated by Creatives decision to book him in a secondary role on Smackdown and he leaves WWE again.

2004 - Hogan is openly courted by TNA Wrestling, but the deal hits a snag when Hogan was reportedly told he would have to put over Jarrett at some point. Hogan begins to complain of "knee problems" as the deal falls apart.

2005 - Hogan is inducted into the Hall of Fame, and agrees to the idea of a Hogan/Shawn Michaels match at Summerslam.

McMahon proposes two matches, with each winning one. Hogan agrees.

After spending all of his comeback as a face, HBK agrees to turn heel to sell the match.

Michaels carries a clearly laboring Hogan through a decent match at Summerslam, and HBK does the clean job to Hogan.

The second match in the series is called off, when Hogan began to complain "his knee was acting up again".

Hence, the Hogan win over HBK stands as their one and only meeting.

2005 - Hogan proposes the "Dream Match" scenario of Hogan vs Steve Austin to WWE Creative for Wrestlemania. Austin says no - citing the HBK scenario at Summerslam. He refuses to put Hogan over.

2006 - Hogan is asked to appear at Summerslam and face Randy Orton. He agrees with the rumoured condition that WWE pushes his daughter Brooke's debut CD.

Instead of putting over "The Legend Killer", Hogan flexes his "creative control".

Credit: Wrestlingforum.

gerrybbadd

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Blue_Dabadee

Why did RAW go back to USA network in 2005?

connemara man

^^^^^^^^

Blue_Dabadee

connemara man wrote: »

^^^^^^^^

And your point is?

connemara man

mxph3 wrote: »

And your point is?

That's aimed at tugboats long post not yours

Ageyev

Omackeral wrote: »

More of an opinion based question I suppose but how come Colt Cabana never worked out in WWE at all? I know he was signed and had a few showings as Scotty Goldman on Smackdown but how come it didn't happen for him? And why did they bother signing him at all?

This was before the current developmental regime/before HHH signed "indie darlings". You'd have to think Cabana would surely do well at some level today on NXT TV.

A Primal Nut wrote: »

How does it work creatively when two promotions come together for a pay-per-view; for example War of the Worlds between Ring of Honor and New Japan. It would seem like a political nightmare trying to agree who beats who. Who decides?

Negotiations between bookers. Things are a bit different today than twenty or so years ago where wrestlers openly state in "shoot" interviews/podcasts affection for working with other wrestlers and having no problem putting someone over. Things in WWE have greatly changed wrt wrestlers taking on losses whereby they really have little choice and besides, the egos aren't as bad as the days of Hogan in his day or Shawn Michaels in the 1990s. Even Steve Austin was buried for refusing to work with Brock Lesnar in 2002.

ricero wrote: »

What was the main reasons behind Kurt angle leaving the wwe ?

If I remember right he did ask for a release and then snubbed them by going to TNA. But he was moved to ECW for a lighter schedule.

Kolido wrote: »

Have any other WWE PPVs taken place outdoors apart from Wrestlemanias and SS92 ?

They've done big outdoor shoes historically pre-PVP like in Shea Stadium, the "Tribute to Troops" were outdoors and a Dublin house circa 2005 was outdoors in the RDS.

ricero wrote: »

Has a wcw ppv and a wwe ppv ever clashed before ?

Where they ever on at the same time I'm asking ?

In 1997 WWF moved their PPV shows from the end of the month to the beginning of the month. They switched back in 1998. There may have been a clash even by just a week in 1999-2000 but WCW was on a downturn so it didn't hurt business that much. PowerShot magazine in late 1999 hailed WCW Mayhem as a great show where Bret won the belt juxtaposing it with a poor review for Survivor Series 1999 the same month with a horrible undercarriage and a swerve main event where Steve Austin was hit by the car.

The aforementioned Survivor Series/Staircase 1987 clash was caused by Vince McMahon who threatened cable companies who ran Staircase that they wouldn't get Wrestlemania 1988. Mania 88 ran head to head with the first Clash (feat. Sting vs. Ric Flair). Cable companies weren't happy.

mxph3 wrote: »

Why did RAW go back to USA network in 2005?

TNN/Spike publicly said they weren't going to resign. This put WWE in a bad spot because everyone knew their cards at the negotiation table so to speak.

Cianan2

Does anybody know where you can find information on merchandise/tshirt sales? The amount of Finn Balor shirts I saw over WM weekend has me interested to see how his shirts sold, as there were so many of them around! (And not just at NXT)

Ageyev

Cianan2 wrote: »

Does anybody know where you can find information on merchandise/tshirt sales? The amount of Finn Balor shirts I saw over WM weekend has me interested to see how his shirts sold, as there were so many of them around! (And not just at NXT)

Try the WWE corporate site. You'll only get overall sales. Ive never seen individual sales numbers for each wrestler, best you might get is top 5 merch sellers or something like that

A Primal Nut

mxph3 wrote: »

Why did RAW go back to USA network in 2005?

If you are an f4wonline subscriber, it's explained in the 3/21/05 (dropped by TNN/Spike) and 5/16/05 (deal agreed with USA) newsletters.

Basically TNN/Spike had taken on WWE at their peak in ratings; their first episode of Raw was Austin's return in 2000. By 2005, Raw's ratings were down by a third and Heat was down to one tenth of what is was in 2000. In addition they had figured out why so many networks have little interest in wrestling; advertisers don't want to be associated with it so they don't make as much in advertising as they should given the high ratings.

Despite this, Vince wanted an increase from $25m to $40m in rights fees for what was now an inferior product. However he wasn't happy with Spike himself, he blamed business being down on their move to Spike (nothing do with the end of the attitude era and Austin and Rock retiring of course. ). I read in another newsletter a while back that he thought Spike was not a big deal because it wasn't on in hotels he stayed in, although in fact the amount of homes that have Spike was almost the same as USA.

So Spike pulled out as they weren't willing to pay even more in rights fees for tv that was doing worse. That left WWE without leverage and only USA were interested in doing a deal. WWE ended up with a similar $25m deal to what they had before but they had to add some additional programming to get it.

orestes

Actually, while we're talking about Hogan, does anyone have an idea where would Brock count in terms of drawing power? I assume Austin and Hogan are bigger in terms of overall money made for the company, but in terms of dates worked/money made is there anyone else who can beat him?

diusmr8a504cvk

Why did Mr.Ass' main event push fail?

Blue_Dabadee

Were WWE Ice Cream bars sold over here?

Ageyev

orestes wrote: »

Actually, while we're talking about Hogan, does anyone have an idea where would Brock count in terms of drawing power? I assume Austin and Hogan are bigger in terms of overall money made for the company, but in terms of dates worked/money made is there anyone else who can beat him?

Kinda hard to talk about Brocks drawing power in traditional terms like PPV buys, house show attendance and merch because of the Network, he doesn't do house shows and sells his own merch afaik. The other metric would be TV ratings.

Fwiw, Extreme Rules 2012 did 159,000 buys (2013 was 181,00, 2011 was 108,000, 2010 was 112,000) and SummerSlam 2012 did 270,000 (2013 was 185,00, 2011 was 177,000, 2010 was 203,000). So I guess it's fair to say Lesnar helped boost those numbers to some degree at least. Trying to determine drawing power isn't a science and you'd also have to compare his 2002-2004 run but this was relatively short after the boom/bubble burst and there was the brand split which complicates matters.

You could probably argue John Cena beats him overall as he has headlined more top drawing PPVs.

Beckett Gorgeous Bride wrote: »

Why did Mr.Ass' main event push fail?

Well, it wasn't a "main event push" but in short he wasn't very good.

He got lost in the shuffle during a transitional period (Austin was around still protecting his spot, Rock was on the ascension, Triple H was trying to break into the main event etc.). Billy wasn't as good as others who were being pushed and in 2000 needed time off for shoulder surgery. When he came back Undertaker stole his "Ass" name, a new crop of guys were getting over eg. Kurt Angle, Jericho et al.

A few years later when Triple H had more stroke he may have benefited from getting the rub but he was sunk by the Billy and Chuck gimmick and again, outshined by better workers.