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    #2042
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Knowing wrestling that sounds far too sophisticated for the carny-like beginnings such as mark.

    It's been used in literature to describe a villain as far back as the early 1900s.


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    #2043
    CMpunked
    Registered Users Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Adiboo wrote: »
    It's been used in literature to describe a villain as far back as the early 1900s.

    Cool! Wonder who coined it.


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    #2044
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Cool! Wonder who coined it.

    No idea. I tried to research it before when I encountered it in a few books.


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    #2045
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,954 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Adiboo wrote: »
    It's been used in literature to describe a villain as far back as the early 1900s.


    Best I've found, from http://www.etymonline.com. Fits in nicely to your point. Mind, by this definition, it gels soundly with WWE's main-events heels for the last decade, unless you're named HHH or Orton.
    heel (n.2)
    "contemptible person," 1914 in U.S. underworld slang, originally "incompetent or worthless criminal," perhaps from a sense of "person in the lowest position" and thus from heel (n.1).

    I had no idea it existed in broader lexicon 'til I was older. I remember being forced to watch one of those art programmes as a kid, and one of the critics referred to the antagonist in a novel as a heel. I leaped up and thought 'ah sure, she's not bad, she watches wrestling'.


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    #2046
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    It's even in the first line of the Mr. Grinch song, haha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aga1BOSu7yY


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    #2047
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I'm pretty sure I've heard it in westerns from time to time as well. Some American people that I've met, who aren't necessarily wrestling fans, have recognised the word as having negative connotations if I've used it in passing. The question about blading there also, I know that in 1997, when Austin bled at WrestleMania, him and Bret Hart took it upon themselves to get colour in that match.


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    #2048
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Adiboo wrote: »
    It's even in the first line of the Mr. Grinch song, haha.
    Whata heelish heel still over after what 40 years?
    Vince would hate him too fat around the waist though.


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    #2049
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Is he a heel though, if he has his own movies etc.? There comes a point where the heels get popular, look at Ric Flair, Dolph Ziggler, Triple H, it goes on and on and on and...


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    #2050
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    Stereomaniac wrote: »
    Is he a heel though, if he has his own movies etc.? There comes a point where the heels get popular, look at Ric Flair, Dolph Ziggler, Triple H, it goes on and on and on and...

    Don't forget he turned face at the end of the movie.


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    #2051
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 29,138 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So while I was thinking Zack Ryder should defend his internet title in the PPV preshows on youtube, I was wondering what other titles were created by a wrestler for himself? I know the Million Dollar Belt as one.


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    #2052
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,954 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Taz and the FTW Heavyweight Championship comes to mind immediately.


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    #2053
    duuuaaaane
    Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭duuuaaaane


    Lance Storm, didn't technically create titles but renamed all the Championships to 'Canadian Tag Team', US to 'Canadian Champ' etc when he held them.


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    #2054
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Booker T and the Legends' Championship in TNA as well


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    #2055
    Bounty Hunter
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    cheers for the TV times guys, i've once more edited the post in the hotlinks sticky on this


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    #2056
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Hashtag_HEEL wrote: »
    Allow me:
    The term "heel" is derived from a slang usage of the word that first appeared around 1914, meaning "contemptible person."

    You're welcome! :cool:

    It is also still used in every day New York speak - "don't be such a heel" = "don't be such a dick".


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    #2057
    Thepoet85
    Registered Users Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    Hey folks,

    Quick question. I'm only a part time wwe viewer but does anyone think that they are suffering from the lack of direct competition these days ( I don't know much about other brands, so sorry if I'm offending anyone here ).

    I know they bought out a few other rivals a while back and it seems to me that the product has gone stale. Am I right here, or are there other factors at play?

    Maybe I just miss the Atitude era :pac:


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    #2058
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Thepoet85 wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    Quick question. I'm only a part time wwe viewer but does anyone think that they are suffering from the lack of direct competition these days ( I don't know much about other brands, so sorry if I'm offending anyone here ).

    I know they bought out a few other rivals a while back and it seems to me that the product has gone stale. Am I right here, or are there other factors at play?

    Maybe I just miss the Atitude era :pac:

    To a certain extent you're right, in the early days under Vince JNR he bought up a lot of the old territories, culminating in the purchase of nationwide companies WCW and ECW. Since then they have existed without any real competition. TNA Wrestling founded by the Jarrett's in 2002 have a TV deal and a great roster of talent but they still don't match up to the kind of rivalry that WCW gave WWE back in the hayday of American wrestling. (Commercially anyway)


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    #2059
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Adiboo wrote: »
    Don't forget he turned face at the end of the movie.
    How could I forget something that I never even knew? I don't have time to watch The Grinch. I prefer to exist in the real world of professional wrestling.


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    #2060
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    Stereomaniac wrote: »
    How could I forget something that I never even knew? I don't have time to watch The Grinch. I prefer to exist in the real world of professional wrestling.

    I should have put it in spoiler tags in retrospect.


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    #2061
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 29,138 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Adiboo wrote: »
    I should have put it in spoiler tags in retrospect.

    I haven't seen the film either but considering it's a family Christmas movie, I think it was obvious what the outcome would be.


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    #2062
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I haven't seen the film either but considering it's a family Christmas movie, I think it was obvious what the outcome would be.

    The grinch and the who's go to a heated 60 minute broadway but he agrees to come back the next year to put them over. But that falls through when they discover his heart grew due to large drug use


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    #2063
    Hashtag_HEEL
    Registered Users Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭Hashtag_HEEL


    GTR63 wrote: »
    The grinch and the who's go to a heated 60 minute broadway but he agrees to come back the next year to put them over. But that falls through when they discover his heart grew due to large drug use

    Now THAT is a movie I'd pay to see! :cool:


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    #2064
    Cactus Colm
    Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Cactus Colm


    I was watching the Heroes of Wrestling PPV a while back on youtube ... it's brilliantly awful.. which featured Jake Roberts, Yokozuna, King Kong Bundy, and Jim Neidhart in the main event. Yoko was massive at time, and died about a year later, checking on wikipedia it said that he was intentionally gaining weight to get up to around 850lbs .. so I was wondering, is this true? And was there a particular reason he was trying to get up to this weight?


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    #2065
    DaveSuarez
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭DaveSuarez


    I doubt it to be honest. He was a great big man though.


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    #2066
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    He was under the impression that the bigger he got, the more he would be worth. When he realised that wasn't the case he tried to slim down but it was too late for him. WCW I believe even told him get down to a certain weight and we'll sign you.


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    #2067
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I think it's one of those movies where you can say, the book is better (The Grinch). Dr. Seuss reads a lot better than the likes of Vince Russo when it comes to this stuff.


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    #2068
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    He was under the impression that the bigger he got, the more he would be worth. When he realised that wasn't the case he tried to slim down but it was too late for him. WCW I believe even told him get down to a certain weight and we'll sign you.

    That's the wanted him for WCW Slamboree 1999. A lot of US states - New York for example wouldn't let him wrestle due to his health. WWF would have bought him back too if he lost weight. Vince liked himb and Undertaker was like his best friend.


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    #2069
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I loved Bret Hart's anecdote about him eating everything around him, then flying into a rage when there was no Diet Coke and just regular left in the catering department at shows.


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    #2070
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    rovert wrote: »
    That's the wanted him for WCW Slamboree 1999. A lot of US states - New York for example wouldn't let him wrestle due to his health.

    at the end he couldnt attain a wrestling licence in the states at all due to his weight/health issues, not sure how much wcw wanted him, i know hogan wanted him in wcw because he needed to get that win back :D


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    #2071
    Cherry_Cola
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    What was the first known instance of a table being used in a wrestling match? Was it something that started in the 90's or was it ever used before then?

    Also, I just recently got Sky back in and seen that there's a TNA's Greatest Matches show on the Extreme Sports Channel. Looks to be on for 2 hours every night, it may be worth checking out.


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