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"This house believes that one cannot be truly moral without God" (NUIM, 30th March)

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  • #52
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    No it is not my language that points towards any such thing. I am commenting on the language of others. Commenting on the language of others does not make their language my language by proxy.

    In any situation where a person feels they are somehow in the “right” and someone else is in the “wrong” they use language will reflect that. This language neither:

    a) Shows that the person using it is in fact in the “right”
    Nor
    b) That there even is a “right” for them to be in in the first place.

    However yes, I already agreed that there are universals that we appeal to. I just do not agree that that universal is any kind of objective morality, especially since no evidence is being offered that such an entity even exists.

    The universals we infact appeal to are those of common truths about the human condition which we all share… the wish to avoid pain and misery in ourselves and those we care for… the wish to perpetrate pleasure and happiness in ourselves and those we care for…

    The moral positions we build are based on and constrained by those commonalities, not by an objective right or wrong the very existence of which is being presented sans evidence here.


  • #53
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Jakkass wrote: »
    My point just was that your language itself points towards an absolute form of good and evil.

    In reality, as much as people would like to engage in pretence about how morality is constructed, people operate on a day to day basis by appealing to universals in every day moral dilemmas.

    People appeal to universials all the time. People say "That was a bad movie", rather than "That was in my opinion a bad movie". Or "Liver tastes horrible" rather than "Liver tastes horrible to me"

    It would be a mistake to read too much into this, because my girlfriend says "That is a terrible terrible movie" I don't infer from that that she believes in some sort of movie deity that decides universal standards of movies.


  • #54
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Dave! wrote: »
    rly? Is that him in video 3?

    Based on this
    Jakkass wrote:
    yep my MSN is gareth[at]uberboards.net (replace [at] with @)
    Jakkass wrote:
    I set up my own blog at http://www.gpeoples.net and put your page on the blogroll. Check it out if you wish, and maybe put mine up in return if you want
    Yes it was.

    A google search of 'Gareth Peoples Jakkass' with "Pages from Ireland" selected popped that page up as the first result so I don't think the info's that private :D


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