Is Clonmel heading down the drain?

tippspur

Harsh !

allthedoyles

charlemont wrote: »

for such a clean well planned town its people are the worse in ireland nobody in that town really likes anyone else theres only 2 halves in clonmel pure scum or ignorant snobs..
its known throughout ireland as being an unfriendly town. a town where people are only happy if someone else is suffering,,

imo - this is true for most towns in Ireland

sparkydee

I think yesterday was a great day for the town with the march. It proved that there still is a community spirit. I don't think clonmel would be top of the unfriendliest list or that we can all be either divided into scumbag or snobs. That's a generalisation of the highest order. As for the economic side of things I think we are definitely no worse than other places at the minute but it's sad to see so many empty buildings around the town.

iceage

And the award for the most sweeping statement goes to............

Reginald P. DuM

iceage wrote: »

And the award for the most sweeping statement goes to............

Boards is full of sh*tstirrers iceage... Let it be water off a ducks back.

Anyway we probably earn 3 times as much as him so why bother!

Rookster

I lived in Clonmel for four years and while I loved the town and area I always found the people very clannish. My friends consisted of blow-ins like myself.

PhatPiggins

charlemont wrote: »

for such a clean well planned town its people are the worse in ireland nobody in that town really likes anyone else theres only 2 halves in clonmel pure scum or ignorant snobs.. genuine people are rare there. its known throughout ireland as being an unfriendly town. a town where people are only happy if someone else is suffering,,

Yes we regularly enjoy showings of Serbian war crimes and holocost remakes in the Omniplex. We find it gets us in the mood to go home and beat defenseless animals with our jewel encrusted canes. To round off the night we contact terminally ill children with promises of funding for treatment before hanging up.

Clonmel snobs only happy at someone elses suffering since 1205

DT100

charlemont wrote: »

for such a clean well planned town its people are the worse in ireland nobody in that town really likes anyone else theres only 2 halves in clonmel pure scum or ignorant snobs.. genuine people are rare there. its known throughout ireland as being an unfriendly town. a town where people are only happy if someone else is suffering,,

I know lots of genuine people in Clonmel.Do you live in Clonmel?If you do,would you be in the pure s or the ignorant s corner?

charlemont

fair enough, i can admit when im wrong or over-reacting , but i stand by most of what i said. there are lots of genuine people in clonmel, but its the arrogance of a lot of the people is sickening. yes i did live in c-mel and yes as i am not an arrogant or stuck up person i presume i would be a pure scumbag in the eyes of some. as towns go it has a good service industry and is located in a fairly nice spot , close to m8 ,n24 , its pity lots of the original industry is gone clonmel chilling shcweizers etc. like your town centre is grand but WHO objected to the clonmel arms site development, WHO objected to the powerstown development, WHO objected to the N24 rathkeevin to J10 dual carriageway.. if the town does not have the population it cannot sustain the services it has. i see racism is unfortunately on the rise all over ireland, clonmel included but these people contributed a lot to our society. i visited clonmel again today the main guard is nice but i was amazed to see the o connell mall gone, that was a well maintained and nice place, it really needs more people, as i said in the previous post it is a well planned out town, every street is unique, the modern developments are well done,

RobAMerc

i am originally from Clonmel and have to say alot of the comments here are true.

The people of Clonmel tend to be very clannish and desperately unfriendly. It was only when I moved to college that I realised how much friendlier people of other towns are towards others as well as each other.

Secondly - the town centre had completely gone to the dogs - this is due to some really stupid decisions by the local council ( brown envelopes I would say ). Allowing Tesco to leave the town centre and M&S build on the outskirts was ridiculous - people of the town and surrounding towns have no reason any more to go into the centre to shop and subsequently don't bother doing so to socialise either - the town centre is half empty.

Pity - it used to be a great town

iceage

charlemont wrote: »

, its pity lots of the original industry is gone clonmel chilling shcweizers etc...... every street is unique, the modern developments are well done,

Well its obvious you haven't lived in how did you put it..C-mel for some time. Both of the firms you mentioned have been gone for years now. And your comment about the modern developments....completely defies logic. How could they be well done when they have sucked the heart out of the place onto the bloody bypass? Attracted there by lower rents because Estate agents have rode the arse off of business's in the town centre. get a grip would you.

As for M+S don't get me started, rushed through with money from outside the Town to make a quick killing by developers, that my friend is a white elephant and a prime reason why C-mel is in trouble.

charlemont

RobAMerc wrote: »

i am originally from Clonmel and have to say alot of the comments here are true.

The people of Clonmel tend to be very clannish and desperately unfriendly. It was only when I moved to college that I realised how much friendlier people of other towns are towards others as well as each other.


thats so true, same here i was amazed at how different the people are outside it, if you lived there all your life and never left you would have an isolated mentality.......

charlemont

charlemont wrote: »

RobAMerc wrote: »

i am originally from Clonmel and have to say alot of the comments here are true.

The people of Clonmel tend to be very clannish and desperately unfriendly. It was only when I moved to college that I realised how much friendlier people of other towns are towards others as well as each other.


thats so true, same here i was amazed at how different the people are outside it, if you lived there all your life and never left you would have an isolated mentality.......

Ah sure we are pure feckers in the town.Clannish doesn't begin to describe it....If you are from above the roundabout on the Cahir road,or below the roundabout at Bulmers...we wouldn't look sideways at ya

TheGobb

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Ah sure we are pure feckers in the town.Clannish doesn't begin to describe it....If you are from above the roundabout on the Cahir road,or below the roundabout at Bulmers...we wouldn't look sideways at ya

what about the folk from bianconi, would ye look sideway at them?

hellbent

I'm from Clonmel, lived in Waterford, New Ross, and had sojourns in Cork, Dublin and Limerick, and in each case, with the notable exception of Cork, the people there were unfriendly, but not in a nasty way. And to each other as well as to blow-ins. When I lived in Waterford, I could never say to others that I came from there, in case I would be ostracised. I'm not saying this to knock any town, only to emphasise that the IRISH themselves are not the friendly bunch pictured in Bord Failte ads.

Clonmel town centre is pretty poor at the moment. It became that way due to no place to park, an issue never dealt with by that low shower of drunks known as the Corporation/Borough Council. Not having a decent town-centre hotel is also a big problem. Hearns? Don't make me laugh.

Bad an' all as Clonmel is, the original poster who came out with such disparaging remarks should really retract much of his invective. He could make the point better with less determination to insult.:D

questionmark?

hellbent wrote: »

I'm from Clonmel, lived in Waterford, New Ross, and had sojourns in Cork, Dublin and Limerick, and in each case, with the notable exception of Cork, the people there were unfriendly, but not in a nasty way. And to each other as well as to blow-ins. When I lived in Waterford, I could never say to others that I came from there, in case I would be ostracised. I'm not saying this to knock any town, only to emphasise that the IRISH themselves are not the friendly bunch pictured in Bord Failte ads.

Clonmel town centre is pretty poor at the moment. It became that way due to no place to park, an issue never dealt with by that low shower of drunks known as the Corporation/Borough Council. Not having a decent town-centre hotel is also a big problem. Hearns? Don't make me laugh.

Bad an' all as Clonmel is, the original poster who came out with such disparaging remarks should really retract much of his invective. He could make the point better with less determination to insult.:D

Ah i never set out to insult the town i just outlined some of my concerns and disappointments from what i am seeing. At the end of my original post i asked what could be done of which i still haven't received a reply.

hinault

Clonmel has always been one of the most prosperous locations.

Kentz/Digital/Medite/Bulmers/Guidant/Boston Scientific : all world class companies all employing loads of people.

Other locations would give their right one for those companies to be operating in their location.

TheGobb

TheGobb wrote: »

what about the folk from bianconi, would ye look sideway at them?

We would allow for as far Scrouthea...and then to about the dip in the road around Clerihan....so Bianconi would come under that coverage:D

Fionn

i remember when Bianconi drive wasn't there :eek: scary huh?

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Fionn wrote: »

i remember when Bianconi drive wasn't there :eek: scary huh?

Sweet Jebus :eek: was that not built in the late sixtys early seventies?!?! No boards.ie back then

Fionn

anyway to answer the op - yeah perhaps!!! my car was broken into last wednesday about €1.70 in change and a camera.
so if anyone is offered a camera with no receipt, no box, no software and now way to charge the battery - it's mine. (perhaps they didn't like my photography )
maybe someone might notice a disadvantaged, misunderstood scowling youth with a piece of equipment thats way above their IQ, perhaps they might advise them to hand it into the cops! btw your fingerprints are now on file (well done)

like who breaks into a car and steals small change? huh?

yip the town is heading south ok!! :mad:

Reginald P. DuM

Bad news Fionn.. Where was the car parked? Day or night? I assumed the law said don't call us we'll call you.. Was the camera on the seat on display? I hope you have a backup so you can keep posting the local shots your doing here....

allprops

As a blow in for the last 5 years and somebody who's been coming to the town for the last 20 (my wife is a local). The clannish accusations are unfortunately true to an extent. The people of Clonmel have always seemed a bit more guarded. However, once you show that you are willing to come a lot more than half way, then they can drop their defences and allow you in.
There is certainly a snobbish old town burghers, captains of industry feel to parts of the town. There is a Powerstown Set, maybe not all living in Powerstown but you get the idea, who consider themselves old money and like in many towns in Ireland there is a ghettoisation factor to a couple of estates on the outskirts of town.
Regardless of this most people are decent honest to goodness down to earth people if not a little clannish. It is well situated, it has amazing scenery. It has a lack of bars as opposed wide open lounges.
When it comes to crime, and scumbags in general, while my sympathies extend to Fionn this is a problem in all of Ireland.
As to the OP's question what can be done, a good start would be cctv in the Old Tesco carpark to stop the petrolheads terrorising people.

DT100

A Powerstown set......Is that a dance?..Something like the walls of Limerick?

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allprops wrote: »

As to the OP's question what can be done, a good start would be cctv in the Old Tesco carpark to stop the petrolheads terrorising people.

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think you may be the first person to answer my question, so thanks.

Yes i agree with you here.(although i'd call them boyracers) However it raises the following question. Gardai cctv is installed in the town so a) Is it not installed in the carpark if not why not? b) It is on the streets around it. are the gardai not monitoring the carry on in the surronding areas. c) why arent they doin something about it? They know where they hang around