Ongoing religious scandals

mikhail

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10417102.stm

The Vatican has protested to Belgium over police raids on the home of a cardinal and a Church commission investigating sexual abuse.

I don't understand these people. How are people supposed to take them objecting to the police doing their jobs? I'd love to know what that bit about them having "violated" two former cardinals' tombs is all about. I really doubt they just wrecked the place for the hell of it.

Galvasean

mikhail wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10417102.stm


I don't understand these people. How are people supposed to take them objecting to the police doing their jobs?

Beacuse

For those who don't watch South park it means, "I AM ABOVE THE LAW!!"

robindch

The Vatican blew a second gasket today, when an elderly Italian bloke in a red skullcap claimed that the Belgian police detaining suspects while investigating serious crimes was worse than anything the Communists had done.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10425090.stm

Galvasean

robindch wrote: »

The Vatican blew a second gasket today, when an elderly Italian bloke in a red skullcap claimed that the Belgian police detaining suspects while investigating serious crimes was worse than anything the Communists had done.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10425090.stm

How many of these gaffs before this wackjob organization is completely disbanded? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter. Deluded fools.

recedite

When did the communists overrun Belgium? I suppose these things are relative;to an elderly Italian fascist in a red skull cap, just about everyone else is a communist.

robindch

Galvasean wrote: »

How many of these gaffs before this wackjob organization is completely disbanded?

From their perspective, this isn't a gaffe, it's a brave man going chin to chin with the kind of bad men who persecute the honorable religious.

MrPudding

Galvasean wrote: »

How many of these gaffs before this wackjob organization is completely disbanded? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter. Deluded fools.

There is no amount. You have seen the number of people on Boards.ie alone that believe the church has done nothing wrong and defend its every move and ridiculous statement. My favourite is the guy vigorously defends the church and and has Michael Jackson was a legend in his signature. I am not sure if irony is the correct term.

While this hardcore of the deluded exist the church will continue. I suppose it is understandable to an extent. When you have invested so much of your life to follow something and you believe this thing has the power to allow you to last forever then defending and following it, regardless of what it might do, could actually become the rational thing to do. Rational to that person, that is, not to observers.

MrP

Galvasean

I see Il Saurkraut was condeming the police too. Said he was disappointed that they never asked the RCC to be involved in the investigstion. Darn, it's so hard to implememnt a cover up when the authorities want to follow the law. :rolleyes:

robindch

The same day that the pope said that the Belgian police couldn't be trusted to maintain confidentiality, the priest in charge of child protection in Cloyne resigned because he'd informed a recently accused priest that there'd been allegations made against him:

http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/cloynes-child-protection-priest-resigns-in-abuse-case-controversy-463187.html

You couldn't make this stuff up.

PeterIanStaker

After a couple of quiet weeks its nice to see the RCC is back shooting itself in the foot.

recedite

robindch wrote: »

the priest in charge of child protection in Cloyne resigned because he'd informed a recently accused priest that there'd been allegations made against him

...and gave details about the complaint made, which would obviously make it much easier for the priest to construct a plausible defence/excuse.

PeterIanStaker

And they just launched a recruitment drive. The sheer gall.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0629/tuam.html

axer

I honestly cannot understand how someone could join such an organisation knowing the amount of corrupt evil people in it. If they truely believed in god why not either start their own church or join one of the lesser evil religions. Surely nobody came to the conclusion that all the teachings of the catholic church are exactly what they believe in.

Galvasean

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

And they just launched a recruitment drive. The sheer gall.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0629/tuam.html

When a similar initiative was launched ten years ago the Archdiocese had only one seminarian. This year five men are studying for the priesthood.

In before David Quinn boasts about a 500% increase in interest in the church.

sonicthebadger*

Galvasean wrote: »

In before David Quinn boasts about a 500% increase in interest in the church.

Ha ha! Lies; Damn Lies; and Statistics.

PeterIanStaker

Galvasean wrote: »

In before David Quinn boasts about a 500% increase in interest in the church.

if Quinn likes them so much, why doesnt he join up?

checkyabadself

Apologies if already posted......

Top Vatican post for cardinal who says abortion wrong even in cases of rape

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0701/1224273705457.html

axer

checkyabadself wrote: »

Apologies if already posted......

Top Vatican post for cardinal who says abortion wrong even in cases of rape

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0701/1224273705457.html

I wonder does that include rape by priests?

I think we all know who the devil really is...

PeterIanStaker

I wonder do the clergy use condoms when they bugger boys?

MrPudding

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

I wonder do the clergy use condoms when they bugger boys?

Not really relevent to abortion though... I mean if one of the boys they raped got pregnant that would be a miracle.

MrP

PeterIanStaker

Not relevant to abortion but relevant to their hypocrisy.

Dades

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

I wonder do the clergy use ...

Those type of comments, while borne of frustration, are best left unposted. For decorum's sake.

We don't need the same comeback every time the church shows hypocrisy.

PeterIanStaker

Dades wrote: »

Those type of comments, while borne of frustration, are best left unposted. For decorum's sake.

We don't need the same comeback every time the church shows hypocrisy.

Duly noted:o

robindch

Galvasean wrote: »

I see Il Saurkraut was condeming the police

And witnesses and investigating magistrates have apparently received death threats:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10501668.stm

HavingCrack

Is this thread specifically for scandals involving the Roman Catholic Church??? Because there seems to be a lack of any news reports exposing scandals in other Christian chruches or indeed Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc etc. I find it hard to believe that none of these other religions have scandals worthy of boards discussions.

checkyabadself

HavingCrack wrote: »

Is this thread specifically for scandals involving the Roman Catholic Church??? Because there seems to be a lack of any news reports exposing scandals in other Christian chruches or indeed Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc etc. I find it hard to believe that none of these other religions have scandals worthy of boards discussions.

With 90% of the population of this country being claimed as Catholics, it`s hardly a surprise to find the thread dominated by RCC scandals. Don`t forget, of all the Catholic countries in the world where abuse has been widespread Mr. Ratzinger chose to address Ireland specifically in his letter of apology for the clerical paedophilia scandal.

There are plenty of threads in this forum discussing scandals perpetrated by the other sects of religon (burka ban discussion thread comes to mind), it`s just the enormous level of paedophilia within the Catholic church does tend to overshadow the other human rights breaches found in Islam, Judaism, etc, at the moment.

recedite

HavingCrack wrote: »

Is this thread specifically for scandals involving the Roman Catholic Church??? Because there seems to be a lack of any news reports exposing scandals in other Christian chruches or indeed Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc etc. I find it hard to believe that none of these other religions have scandals worthy of boards discussions.

You have a point there. How about this one;
Good news for this Iranian woman accused of adultery. Looks like she will get off with being hanged instead of being stoned to death by the prison guards, while buried up to her neck in the ground. :mad::mad:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/09/iran-blackout-over-stoning-sentence-woman

But Sharia law is god's law, and who are we to question it.

maringo

Nothing heard about Rev Francis Markey from Carrickmacross who was being extradited back here from South Bend US to face rape charges - Houdini wasn't at the races compared to him! Seems to have disappeared off the radar again...

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/rapeprobe-priest-fights-extradition-2072730.html

Galvasean

GReat, now when I google my name he pops up. :rolleyes:

Dades

HavingCrack wrote: »

Is this thread specifically for scandals involving the Roman Catholic Church???

No, but it was started to keep all the RCC scandals in one place, so it might appear that way.

A lot of the other religions have their stupid moments immortalised in the Hazards of Belief thread,