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Traumadoc

You asked which treatments are handed back to the public service.
The public service is better.
That is why many consultants bring complicated private cases to public hospitals.
That is why when private patients in private hospitals get sick they are transferred to public hospitals. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0317/1224266440225.html

anymore

Traumadoc wrote: »

You asked which treatments are handed back to the public service.
The public service is better.
That is why many consultants bring complicated private cases to public hospitals.
That is why when private patients in private hospitals get sick they are transferred to public hospitals. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0317/1224266440225.html

You are mistaking private consultants using the facilities in public hospitals to carry out private work for a ' public service'.
Unless the HSE hires and uses its own full time public sector consultants and surgeons, then what we have in Ireland is some kind of hybrid hospital service.

Traumadoc

anymore wrote: »

You are mistaking private consultants using the facilities in public hospitals to carry out private work for a ' public service'.
Unless the HSE hires and uses its own full time public sector consultants and surgeons, then what we have in Ireland is some kind of hybrid hospital service.

They do already, and have done for years. (geographic wholetime public only and recently type A 2008 contract) but the also have type I, type II , geographic whole time, type B, etc.
And yes the swap "hybrid' for "two tier" and you have it.

opinion guy

Traumadoc wrote: »

If I was sick I would want to be in a public hospital

Most doctors say this.

anymore wrote: »

You are mistaking private consultants using the facilities in public hospitals to carry out private work for a ' public service'.[/qoute]
you do realise traumadoc is actually a doctor....oddly enough as his name suggests. He may actually know what he is talking about here. They bring them in to have the support of a fully resourced hospital - experts in all disciplines, instead of just the ones that are lucrative enough to be in the private hospital. On top of that, when private patients come to pbulci hosptials they are attended to by the public docotrs and nurses who look after everyone else. so private patients in public hospitals do avail of public services.

BluntGuy

anymore wrote: »

An extrememly long winded post that is remarkable only for the fact that you didnt asnwer the question of which treaments are handed back to the public service !
Are you a labour party member ?

Well done for ignoring every single point I made and responding with what I presume is meant to be some kind of insult.

I did answer the question.

more difficult and expensive treatments that the private sector refuse to touch will be carried out by the public sector anyway. It is in their nature, private companies want to make money, so they select the most profitable procedures. If you do not believe this, then you need to do a bit of basic research.

Get off your butt and do some research! I gave you some links as a springboard.

It is very simple, if the private sector won't carry out a particular treatment* then the patient will be treated in the public sector.

The proof of this is that although over 50% of people have private sector insurance, the amount of money the private sector pays towards overall treatments is only 10% of total expenditure**.

Where is the other 40% that the private sector theoretically supposed to be paying going to come from? Well, you give a guess.


*such as complex treatments like heart and lung surgery, treatments for the chronically ill - they're not profitable!
**according to a report carried out by the Adelaide Hospital Society