foreign car, tax etc.

Johnny86

Hey guys,
My brother has a car registered, taxed and insured in england. He is in ireland now with work and wont be using the car so he said i can have it for a couple of months so i can learn to drive on it.

My questions are

1. does it need to be taxed here again?
2. could i be a named driver on his insurance or do i need to take out my own policy?

basically i want to know what must be done so i can drive it here?

any help anpreciated

Mr. Presentable

You will have to pay VRT. It will need to be taxed. I don't believe you can be named on his out of state insurance.

Johnny86

nipplenuts wrote: »

You will have to pay VRT. It will need to be taxed. I don't believe you can be named on his out of state insurance.

with regards vrt..the car will only be here for like 2 months then its going back to the uk and my brother using it there again..is there not some kind of tourist thing?

-Corkie-

I dont know about insurance but the car must be cleared immediatley. Your brother can do this for no cost as long the car is registered in his name for a year in the uk.

Johnny86

SARASON wrote: »

I dont know about insurance but the car must be cleared immediatley. Your brother can do this for no cost as long the car is registered in his name for a year in the uk.

my brother will still own the car and be using it the odd time here too..yeah it would have been registered in his name for a few years now...i kinda guessed id have to take out my own policy and get 3months of tax

corktina

As an Irish resident you are not permitted to use a UK registered car here.

-Corkie-

You will theres nothing easy in this life:)

rai555

if the car is temporary in Ireland, no need change the plates and register, you need insurance as a named driver

unkel

Some incorrect advice here, beware.

corktina wrote: »

As an Irish resident you are not permitted to use a UK registered car here.

+1

This is correct.

Johnny86

corktina wrote: »

As an Irish resident you are not permitted to use a UK registered car here.

really, thats a balls...like can nobody drive my brothers car so when he is back here on holidays

rai555

you must have insurance in your name, and can somebody explain how you can register your brothers ( neighbors, friends ... ) car ?

biko

If you could drive around in a borrowed UK car everyone would doing it.
Only UK residents can drive UK cars, sucks but there you go.

robtri

Johnny86 wrote: »

really, thats a balls...like can nobody drive my brothers car so when he is back here on holidays

if they are an irish resident, no they can't

rai555

is your brother irish resident OP ?

ballsymchugh

if the car is going back to the uk, it'd be a good idea to have proof of the return journey in the car all the time.
was stopped by the guards when i was home on holidays last year and they told me that if i'm back for more than 3 days that i have to inform customs, which i thought was a bit bizarre.
i think the tourist thing that you mention is the insurance green card which will cover your brother for up to 90 days in the EU

rai555

ballsymchugh wrote: »

if the car is going back to the uk, it'd be a good idea to have proof of the return journey in the car all the time.
was stopped by the guards when i was home on holidays last year and they told me that if i'm back for more than 3 days that i have to inform customs, which i thought was a bit bizarre.
i think the tourist thing that you mention is the insurance green card which will cover your brother for up to 90 days in the EU

green card must cover longer then 90 days, just check with insurance company, might pay few quids extra

corktina

rai555 wrote: »

is your brother irish resident OP ?

well in the first post it said he was here for work now and wouldnt be using the car for a couple of months, so yes i guess he is and should re-register the car. OP could THEN drive it.

Johnny86

well he is irish and has been living in london for about 3-4 years now.
see gettin it registered here for 2 months seems pointless when he is just going to have to register it again when he goes back to the uk..presumably he'd have to get irish insurance then too?

RoundyMooney

Unless you're Polish/Latvian/Lithuanian in which case you're young, residentially mobile, and hard to nail down, and can drive with impunity here for years.

edit: An Irish "resident" being relatively easy to trace, is an easier target for the Customs, and as such, you won't get away with it.

Johnny86

im just tryin to do it legal so by the sounds of it

1. he would have to get it registered in ireland (which would cost nothing, bar the cost of the plates and admin fee presumably)
2. he would have to get insurance in ireland (and id prob be a named driver then)
3. we have to get it taxed

have i missed anything

corktina

Johnny86 wrote: »

im just tryin to do it legal so by the sounds of it

1. he would have to get it registered in ireland (which would cost nothing, bar the cost of the plates and admin fee presumably)
2. he would have to get insurance in ireland (and id prob be a named driver then)
3. we have to get it taxed

have i missed anything

yup NCT

corktina

when we say you arent permitted, dont take that as noone ever does it.

Theres an Avensis drives round my home town on UK plates thats been here at least two years and if you look it up on the DVLA site its been untaxed for over a year in the UK, its not just the poles /lats etc that do it. If Ive spotted it, how come the Gards havent?

Johnny86

corktina wrote: »

yup NCT

and NCT...phew, i thought this was gonna be awkward...so i guess it will take about 2 months to get all that stuff done and then time for the car to go back

-Corkie-

corktina wrote: »

when we say you arent permitted, dont take that as noone ever does it.

Theres an Avensis drives round my home town on UK plates thats been here at least two years and if you look it up on the DVLA site its been untaxed for over a year in the UK, its not just the poles /lats etc that do it. If Ive spotted it, how come the Gards havent?

There too busy in the daily grind any time i see them:D:D

corktina

you are so right...and illegally parked on the roundabout whilst in there too:D

rai555

to get insurance for 2 months ? i believe he's a tourist here and can drive his car, somebody has to be named driver or have own insurance permitting drive other cars

corktina

He can be a tourist for two months no problem Id say (he would be advised to carry some proof that he is only home temporary not forgetting that he is working so he isnt really a tourist is he?).The problem is the OP is an Irish Resident and not permitted to drive a UK car.

-Corkie-

He could move to duhallow either in north cork and do none of the above:D:D. Tis lovley down here boy;)

RoundyMooney

It's not the only place either

rai555

corktina wrote: »

He can be a tourist for two months no problem Id say (he would be advised to carry some proof that he is only home temporary not forgetting that he is working so he isnt really a tourist is he?).The problem is the OP is an Irish Resident and not permitted to drive a UK car.

about the residency :
http://www.vrt.ie/vrtDetail.php?page=21

swe_fi

Johnny>>> I dont know how the system works with Irish residents not being able to drive UK cars but I was thinking sort of the other way around, what if you took up temporary residency in your brothers in the UK for a couple of months and he put you as named driver? Maybe it is not that simple but in my mind it works beautifully.

Esel

swe_fi wrote: »

Johnny>>> I dont know how the system works with Irish residents not being able to drive UK cars but I was thinking sort of the other way around, what if you took up temporary residency in your brothers in the UK for a couple of months and he put you as named driver? Maybe it is not that simple but in my mind it works beautifully.

...and be able to prove to Customs that you are resident in the UK.....

It just isn't worth the risk, OP.

Johnny86

thanks for the help guys...ill try and make a couple of calls today..might just buy the car off him after he registers it in ireland, think he is looking to sell it

ballsymchugh

Johnny86 wrote: »

thanks for the help guys...ill try and make a couple of calls today..might just buy the car off him after he registers it in ireland, think he is looking to sell it

unfortunately he won't be allowed to sell it for a year if he registers it here, although you'll have no problem driving it then.