Begging Cigarettes ?

Chewabacca

delancey42 wrote: »

Aw poor Chewabacca - I'm sure your not a Minger

Haha thanks!

What I'm talking about is people lowering their standards from Benson to drum. It's like they're thinking, "Ah screw it no one wants to give me a fig I'll just ask that guy for a rollie".

It's them making out like you're completely unreasonable if u don't make them a rollie. You know what, I'm pretty sure it's just that galway clubs are littered with young 'ens.

dannyluvsu

I'm 23 and worked in the GPO for about a year. I used to keep score to see just how many people would go "sorry bud, can I rob a fag off ya?" and then you'd get abused by said person once refused. That said of course I'm not 100% innocent myself as I have on occasion asked a stranger if they'd have one. That was always under exceptional circumstance though as in very bad day, no money to buy any, etc etc. If I got rtefused well then that's that persons right not to give them away. I always looked at it like karma though; if someone was good enough to give one to me, I'd give one to a randomer if they were not obviously a junkie or whatever..

Delancey

dannyluvsu wrote: »

I always looked at it like karma though; if someone was good enough to give one to me, I'd give one to a randomer if they were not obviously a junkie or whatever..

I have a similar yet somewhat different attitude - I never ask so I never give
As an aside - working at the GPO ? Jesus , you must have been tormented by some right gougers ?

face1990

delancey42 wrote: »

I have a similar yet somewhat different attitude - I never ask so I never give
As an aside - working at the GPO ? Jesus , you must have been tormented by some right gougers ?

At least there's usually a few Gards outside it.

I was asked for a smoke by a group of Dutch-Gold-swilling-yobs in the sand dunes on Bull Island. Told them I didnt have any and walked off while they shouted abuse. About half an hour later, about 7pm maybe, myself and my friend sit down for a smoke on the Bull Wall, just as the same skangers walk along and see us smoking!

Long story short, got cans thrown at us, my phone knocked out of my hand (when they realised I was calling for blackup in the form of gardai) kicked and chased the length of the bull wall. Ended up running to a strangers house for help, where we had tea and watched a programme about polar bears!

It feels like I cant smoke in public anymore without being abused/chased/assaulted.

Delancey

Thats a shocking story Face - is it just me or is this whole thing of strangers begging ciggies a new phenomenon ? I don't remember it always being like this - it seems to have become a big problem in the last 5 years and long before the recession hit.
Or has it always been this bad and I lived in blissful innocence ?

lord lucan

delancey42 wrote: »

Thats a shocking story Face - is it just me or is this whole thing of strangers begging ciggies a new phenomenon ? I don't remember it always being like this - it seems to have become a big problem in the last 5 years and long before the recession hit.
Or has it always been this bad and I lived in blissful innocence ?

I've always had people looking for smokes off of me but it's escalated to unreal level over the last couple of years. There's more junkies/scumbags on the street than there's ever been before and it's seen a rise in this carry on.

dannyluvsu

delancey42 wrote: »

I have a similar yet somewhat different attitude - I never ask so I never give
As an aside - working at the GPO ? Jesus , you must have been tormented by some right gougers ?

You better believe it! If I'm completely honest though after about 2-3 months in the job the 'refusing-junkies-and-gypsies' part of the ciggy break became as enjoyable as the ciggy itself

tommylimerick

ya nearly just as bad in limerick
about 2 months ago was walking along and some junkie girl asked me for a smoke i just ignorned her she shouted after me **** off so you ignorant **** . think the irony was lost on her

Delancey

Yeah I had a very similar experience - a total junkie of a scrubber saw me with one and asked for one , I replied I had none left and she who probably didn't have a vein left shouted at me '' ye're only a f***in' scumbag '' - yet again the irony was strangely lost on her !

littleoulme

Yes, I've really noticed it too. I do be sneaking them out of my pocket. It actually really pisses me off. I can just afford to smoke, but my thing is if you can't afford it, you shouldn't do it.

Rick Deckard

delancey42 wrote: »

Don't take it personally but I have to say you richly deserved it :p

As for taking butts from strangers ashtrays ? Thanks but no thanks - has anyone ever heard of Hepatitis ?:eek:

any worse than cancer????? lol

the_syco

littleoulme wrote: »

Yes, I've really noticed it too. I do be sneaking them out of my pocket.

You gotta learn to tell them to "go f**k themselves". Unless she's hot :cool:

Delancey

the_syco wrote: »

You gotta learn to tell them to "go f**k themselves". Unless she's hot :cool:

FFS Syco thats the triumph of optimism over experience if ever I saw it - the fellas are gougers and the girls are Grade A Scrubbers. I will admit though that if a babe like Kelly Brook asked me for one , how could I, a Gentleman , refuse ?

dannyluvsu

delancey42 wrote: »

FFS Syco thats the triumph of optimism over experience if ever I saw it - the fellas are gougers and the girls are Grade A Scrubbers. I will admit though that if a babe like Kelly Brook asked me for one , how could I, a Gentleman , refuse ?

+1

delancey42

delancey42 wrote: »

Thats a shocking story Face - is it just me or is this whole thing of strangers begging ciggies a new phenomenon ? I don't remember it always being like this - it seems to have become a big problem in the last 5 years and long before the recession hit.
Or has it always been this bad and I lived in blissful innocence ?

The scumbags have multiplied. And so has their sense on entitlement.

the_syco

delancey42 wrote: »

FFS Syco thats the triumph of optimism over experience if ever I saw it - the fellas are gougers and the girls are Grade A Scrubbers. I will admit though that if a babe like Kelly Brook asked me for one , how could I, a Gentleman , refuse ?

Scummer: refused
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Hot goth... rolled and here ya go...
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:pac:

Eric Cartman

never give them to girls in pub/club smokin areas as there always looking for cigarettes for the lad their with or their fat friend , or scummers , will give one to mates or someone ive been talking to for a while

Denerick

In this sense rollies are a lifesaver. All you have to say is 'I've only got rollies'. One particularly pathetic looking homeless man who was on my route to college last year used to get one every day off me though. I built up a rapport with him. He was of the rollie school of thought. Not enough people like him.

Delancey

the_syco wrote: »

Scummer: refused
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Hot goth... rolled and here ya go...
Scummer: refused
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:pac:

Ah , I suppose 1 out of 10 ain't bad

Kersmash

Face1990s story reminds me of something that happened to me a week or 2 ago. I was walking home from the girlfriends house and haveing a rollie as I went. I walk through the carpark of a shopping centre as a short cut home. It was about half 1 in the morning and as I'm walking through I see a car parked. As I walk past a scumbag shouts "here! give us a fag bey." I just went "Sorry man I've none left." Cue him and his friend getting out of the car and running after me screaming for a cigarette. They saw where I was headed towards and all hopped back into the car and tore down the road after me screaming. I managed to hide and they left after a while but I was terrified. I can't help feel that if I smoke in public, I make myself a prime target for scumbags. A sad state of affairs =/

DublinWriter

I've only had that in Belgium where smokes are cheap and in Dublin from Spanish students (where smokes are even cheaper).

I just ignore them or give them a gallic-shrug and keep on swiftly moving.

Lorri_L

I have no problem giving a friend a smoke but I'm out of work at the mo and I swear in the past week I've been stopped on the street by people I don't know that I recognise from the welfare office! Chances are I get paid the same as them!No way are they getting a smoke of me!

SIX PACK

I was in a busy pub fri nite was just askin a guy for a lighter. That was grand then he wanted a fag for the use of his lighter, So i was kinda caught off guard couldn't really say no...

Then i seen the same guy about half hr later doing the same thing~ i guess its a clever enough idea if you dont want to buy your own :rolleyes:

Delancey

That is a lousy , low and mean trick - guy sounds like a dickhead.

skipz

When i was serving my time as a bricklayer i worked with mostly smokers and everyone that smoked looked after each other if we were stuck.
However there is always one f*cker who takes the this biscuit!
One of the lads was that mean he would say he'd spent all his money on the drink at the weekend and was giving the smoking up, this was every monday, and by lunch time he'd smoked 3 or 4 smokes he'd scabbed. This went on all the time until we all told him to go and kiss where the sun shine. That very day i sent a labourer down to my car to get a bottle of water and when he came back he said "the f*cker" was after getting into my car and taking my spare smokes:D!
Not to say life was a bit hard for that lad after that day and he wasnt long at the company after that.

Pittybitty

I get it every day - especially at the Luas stop I use (Heuston) You just know them by sight so I only tend to light up if there are security around or if there are lots of people on the platform. I have also been known to hide behind the information displays! Smokes are too expensive to be handing out and I will only give them to people I know or homeless people but never to scangers. I've been called so many names for not giving them out I'm getting used to it!!!

lord lucan

Pittybitty wrote: »

I get it every day - especially at the Luas stop I use (Heuston) You just know them by sight so I only tend to light up if there are security around or if there are lots of people on the platform. I have also been known to hide behind the information displays! Smokes are too expensive to be handing out and I will only give them to people I know or homeless people but never to scangers. I've been called so many names for not giving them out I'm getting used to it!!!

And it's a sad day when we feel like we must hide in order to have a smoke so as to avoid hassle. I know how you feel,i've done the same myself tbh.

Pittybitty

Its a pity we have to hide but it seems to be the norm these days. Its terrible to be called names for not giving someone something of your own property, I always feel like these people think they deserve them - maybe I'm just being mean but its my hard earned money LOL

lord lucan

Pittybitty wrote: »

Its a pity we have to hide but it seems to be the norm these days. Its terrible to be called names for not giving someone something of your own property, I always feel like these people think they deserve them - maybe I'm just being mean but its my hard earned money LOL

I think some of it stems back to years ago when cigarettes were 'relatively' cheap and people didn't mind sharing. Now though with the price being so expensive there's no way i'm handing out any unless it's a good friend.

Pittybitty

Yup! I agree

the_syco

I'm finding half the people who ask are the scumbags who wouldn't get served them in shops...

Cavehill Red

Outside a bar after the Leinster game tonight, I was blowing smoke rings when a knacker-scumbag-beggar approached.

Knacker/Scumbag/Beggar: Can I borrow a smoke, mate?
Me: When will I get it back?
K/S/B: I mean, could you give me one?
Me: I could, yes, in that it's physically possible. But I'm not inclined to. What are you offering me?
K/S/B: Whaddaya mean?
Me: Minimum bid is 43 cent.
K/S/B: Ya wha?
Me: That's how much they cost each. Feel free to pay more.

K/S/B stumbles off muttering profanities. I blow more smoke rings.

poisonated

It is a very common practice in France.

Delancey

Excellent stuff - way to go !!

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Outside a bar after the Leinster game tonight, I was blowing smoke rings when a knacker-scumbag-beggar approached.

Knacker/Scumbag/Beggar: Can I borrow a smoke, mate?
Me: When will I get it back?
K/S/B: I mean, could you give me one?
Me: I could, yes, in that it's physically possible. But I'm not inclined to. What are you offering me?
K/S/B: Whaddaya mean?
Me: Minimum bid is 43 cent.
K/S/B: Ya wha?
Me: That's how much they cost each. Feel free to pay more.

K/S/B stumbles off muttering profanities. I blow more smoke rings.

the_syco

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I blow more smoke rings.

I've never quite gotten the hang of that. How does one blow smoke rings?

dannyluvsu

Hahaha, Cavehill that's legendary.

allaction22

I never smoked a fag until i was 37 years old..3 years ago. Then started smoking a hamlet cigar when I was having a pint. Now I'm on between 5 and 10 a day. If it's late in the pub and I've smoked all my cigars I'll nick a fag off a good buddy...there's three or four lads always give me one.

Would this be pissing them off I wonder...they don't usually complain or anything

Morrigin

allaction22 wrote: »

I never smoked a fag until i was 37 years old..3 years ago. Then started smoking a hamlet cigar when I was having a pint. Now I'm on between 5 and 10 a day. If it's late in the pub and I've smoked all my cigars I'll nick a fag off a good buddy...there's three or four lads always give me one.

Would this be pissing them off I wonder...they don't usually complain or anything

I don't think it's an issue when it's a friend - it's when a complete stranger - usually a teenager or a skanger (or a teenage skanger ) does it that it annoys people.

OldGoat

I don't buy ciggies and hence I have no idea of the cost of a pack of 20. What is the (avg) cost of a single ciggy?

The Hill Billy

43 cent or so.

Mac2010

Mr.S wrote: »

I was in a club recently, went out to have a smoke and was putting the cig to my mouth, when some girl just comes up, takes it out of my hand and gives me some puppy eyes, and puts it in her mouth :eek: then has the cheek to ask me for a light?!

hahaha that's funny.:D I give smokes if I'm in great mood.hate some people who ask for a fag and put it on his/her ears and asks for another one for his Daddy.happened twice.if someone asks me for a Cig in a proper way I'd give him.NOT giving to junkies and liars who ask "u wudn't have a spare smoke would ya?!" if they get one just after that " God bless you, let me see your palm i think you got great future blah blah..." really pisses me off that kinda stuff.

Overature

i hate getting asked for one, even when i dont smoke

noxqs

When I smoked (I only vape on my silver bullet e-cig now) - I used to have dodgy people coming up to me all the time asking for a cigarette. Usually I would be so flabbergasted and intimidated I would just hand over a cigarette without question. Worst is when they then follow up cheekly asking for two.

I am so happy I stopped smoking normal cigarettes.

FarmerGreen

Oh no, you're not handing out dodgy spliffs to foreigners?

Samba

OP - Don't ever light a smoke up in any public place in France, it's infuriating the amount of times you get asked that question, if you said yes every time a pack would literally last you a few hours at most.

Really annoys me too as I would never ask a complete stranger for one.

Delancey

Got a good one for you folks - I ran into a guy I hadn't seen for years the other day , we were having a smoke and a total skanger asked us for a spare , we told her to get fukked and she sloped off after calling us mean cnuts , etc.
My pal qualified as a Paramedic/E.M.T. a couple of years ago and the above incident got us talking about the difficulty of having a smoke in peace these days. He was telling me he was doing duty in The Point / 02 for a concert and a dishy looking American woman asked him for a cigarette ( she saw them in his shirt pocket ).
Given that she was a babe he obliged and got chatting to her - turned out she was the star of the show - none other than Christina Aguilera herself !!

questionmark?

delancey42 wrote: »

Got a good one for you folks - I ran into a guy I hadn't seen for years the other day , we were having a smoke and a total skanger asked us for a spare , we told her to get fukked and she sloped off after calling us mean cnuts , etc.
My pal qualified as a Paramedic/E.M.T. a couple of years ago and the above incident got us talking about the difficulty of having a smoke in peace these days. He was telling me he was doing duty in The Point / 02 for a concert and a dishy looking American woman asked him for a cigarette ( she saw them in his shirt pocket ).
Given that she was a babe he obliged and got chatting to her - turned out she was the star of the show - none other than Christina Aguilera herself !!

Ah i dont think that was a cigarette your friend was smoking judging by that story.

Delancey

questionmark? wrote: »

Ah i dont think that was a cigarette your friend was smoking judging by that story.

Nope a Marlboro light is what she got.

cedan

Only found this a problem in Dublin, never asked for a smoke anywhere else ive ever been!

I used to just say, oh I dont have any but I got this off that fella up there, then pointed in a random direction and pretended to look for him! Whether they knew I was telling them to **** off in a nice way or they believed me it always worked.:D

When I go out though I throw them out like sweets at halloween.:mad:

marglin

have once been reduced to asking strangers for a single fag between me and my brother(we shared and thanked the guy) i have to say it was the worst feeling ever..
asking off friends is fine i know it goes around again and i always stump up when its my turn
wat p**ses me off though around dublin is skangers, who dont even look like they want a fag, they're just standing around, asking ya and feeling entitled!
if you're weak they have the cheek to ask for another
once i nearly got mugged for refusing to give a skanger a rollie, he stuck his hand in my pocket and grabbed my wallet, i then offered him the rollie instead( i grabbed my wallet) and he thought better of it.
having said that though after my own scabbing experience i always try to donate a rollie back unless im in a genuine rush