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Edward Norton medium for war and terrorist acceptance programming?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    studiorat wrote: »
    That's not applicable here, since we are dealing with witness testimony not anecdotal evidence. :cool:

    Its neither, being picky.

    Even if Diogenes were to mail me a link to an IMDB profile he can't establish:

    1) That he is really the person in that profile
    and
    2) Meeting Burton in an interview situation is sufficient to establish that he's not a freemason.

    Either which way, this thread seems to have lost direction.

    Somehow, we've gone from musings about an actor with a penchant for movies with a political slant to musings about...well...I'm not sure.

    What speaks most against any of this, for me, is "signal to noise". We're taking a tiny handful of players from Hollywood, and somehow trying to find some manipulation in works they are associated with. In effect, we're taking a tiny amount (the signal) of the body of work produced annually by Hollywood (the noise), and trying to read something significant into it.

    There's too much noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Ye i know what you mean Bonkey about too much noise,i tried to not get sidetracked but some people seem to be sticklers for insisting i do there research for them or prove everything i say.But i am no expert in the field of research.Partly why i made this thread because i need help researching hollywood.
    There are alot of movies and i have seen nearly all the popular ones.
    I have seen masonic symbols in enough movies to suspect there is something going on.
    Id like to know if its some guys inside the production team doing it for there boys club for a laugh or if its something bigger like social engineering.

    I guess i will just keep looking for connections to Edward Norton,Tim Blake Nelson for now.
    Will post back when i find more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Was browsing some sites and came across a blog which seems to be written by a freemason for freemasons.Like an inspirational piece or something.
    http://www.3ruffians.com/2008/05/meet-our-tylerdurden.html

    Heres the about page for that blog
    http://www.3ruffians.com/2008/05/meet-our-tylerdurden.html

    Id appreciate others take on this site and article.

    Ps. Heres a recruitment site for Shriners, a branch off of freemasons http://www.beashrinernow.com/ got that link from the ruffians website it was recomended.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    bonkey wrote: »
    Its neither, being picky.

    Even if Diogenes were to mail me a link to an IMDB profile he can't establish:

    1) That he is really the person in that profile

    I can actually. And will to a degree that will satisfy you if you require.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Torakx wrote: »
    Was browsing some sites and came across a blog which seems to be written by a freemason for freemasons.Like an inspirational piece or something.
    http://www.3ruffians.com/2008/05/meet-our-tylerdurden.html

    Heres the about page for that blog
    http://www.3ruffians.com/2008/05/meet-our-tylerdurden.html

    Id appreciate others take on this site and article.

    Ps. Heres a recruitment site for Shriners, a branch off of freemasons http://www.beashrinernow.com/ got that link from the ruffians website it was recomended.

    You're flat out contradicting yourself, you claim that freemasons work under a death oath but then claim theres a blog by one for them.

    Its basic and pretty simple paradox in your own logic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Torakx wrote: »
    Ye i know what you mean Bonkey about too much noise,i tried to not get sidetracked but some people seem to be sticklers for insisting i do there research for them or prove everything i say.

    You kind of need to prove everything you say. You make the claim the onus is on you to support it.
    But i am no expert in the field of research.Partly why i made this thread because i need help researching hollywood.

    Then maybe you need to stop making up nonsense on films you can barely remember.
    There are alot of movies and i have seen nearly all the popular ones.
    I have seen masonic symbols in enough movies to suspect there is something going on.
    Id like to know if its some guys inside the production team doing it for there boys club for a laugh or if its something bigger like social engineering.

    I guess i will just keep looking for connections to Edward Norton,Tim Blake Nelson for now.
    Will post back when i find more.

    If you're looking for connections and are paranoid you can find them. That doesn't mean they're real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Di0genes proving you have spoken and interviewed a person has absolutely no bearing on wether they are in a secret society unless you breached that topic and have a recorded video interview i can analyze for said persons reaction to your question to them about freemasons or however you came to be so sure.

    I should point out regarding my post recently on the three ruffians i said it seemed like it was written by freemasons.
    And i speculate on the death oath because i am not a freemason and have no hard evidence.
    It is a widely accepted aspect of being a freemason and wether they disclose that in the three ruffians site i dont know but i highly doubt they would let you know which secrets are hidden and which are in plain sight,or which are protected by an oath.

    You are right in that the onus is on me to back up claims that i make.
    I made a statement about Tim Burton being a freemason when its possible he is only engaged into such a family and making films of there books as coincedence.I will retract the statement that he is a freemason if this will settle your hackles a bit and simply say i suspect he could be involved with freemasons because of some of his recent movies and relationships.

    I wouldnt bother also proving you work for imdb.I personally wouldnt wish others to give out personal information or even public about themselves when it is unnecesary.
    It only would show you met him or spoke to him,i cant see how it is of benefit or importance to proving he isnt or is a mason.

    I would help you to prove me wrong but my theory goes against all that mainstream believes so its a much easier solution and climb for me to try prove i am right and fail thereby helping me and all to see there was no merit in this theory.
    But it must be given a chance before we can discount it.
    Why not help me do just that by using links to pictures,videos,articles so i can see clearly there is no way my op can be seen as being a reality.
    So far from you i have recieved mild insults and baseless insinuations more than assistance in finding the truth.Do you wish to help a crazy person as you say or just insult my views for entertainment?
    Either is no worries for me you may continue to throw insults and degrade my forum name if you like,but i will just carry on posting like you are not there if i cant get any constructive critic from you.
    No hard feelings btw and non taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Torakx wrote: »

    You are right in that the onus is on me to back up claims that i make.
    I made a statement about Tim Burton being a freemason when its possible he is only engaged into such a family and making films of there books as coincedence.I will retract the statement that he is a freemason if this will settle your hackles a bit and simply say i suspect he could be involved with freemasons because of some of his recent movies and relationships.

    Sorry chaps, am I missing something here? How does Tim Burton fit into this at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    He doesnt apart from his relationship with Helena Bonham Carter who is related through marriage to some powerfull families.It is just that some people are trying to dwell on this point and possibly attempting to distract from the topic for what reason i wouldnt try to guess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00013078.html
    It appears Edward Norton was one of the producers for The Leaves Of Grass movie.
    A small note also in the movie he backed out of called State Of Play there is a small reference to freemasons.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Di0genes wrote: »



    He used the word Jew or did that sail far above your head?

    And?

    :rolleyes:

    You just used the word "head", you blaming heads now?

    You clearly STILL owe him an apology for your flippant slander.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Its no biggie i call my mates worse things having a laugh, its the Irish way or at least has been for me :)

    I think im near a dead end with Edward Norton.
    I probably need a massive list of all the people involved in movies with alot of freemason symbols and another list for satanic symbols then join the dots lol
    If im wrong then there could be a third category for mind control seperate all together.

    This might be relevant since its accrediting this propoganda to the Israeli government.
    http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_il_control_coverup_pt1.pdf
    Is this anyway true that the US media is being controlled by people with interests for Israel?
    If it is true then it gives more credit to my theory and also might be a lead.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    And?

    :rolleyes:

    You just used the word "head", you blaming heads now?

    You clearly STILL owe himan apology for your flippant slander.


    You understand you can't be racist against a body part. If you get bored building strawman could you perhaps start building tinmen?

    And its not "flippant slander" is the concept of racism something that escapes your understanding?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Di0genes wrote: »
    You understand you can't be racist against a body part. If you get bored building strawman could you perhaps start building tinmen?

    And its not "flippant slander" is the concept of racism something that escapes your understanding?

    So clarify your claim by enlightening me or apologise then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Torakx wrote: »
    Di0genes proving you have spoken and interviewed a person has absolutely no bearing on wether they are in a secret society unless you breached that topic and have a recorded video interview i can analyze for said persons reaction to your question to them about freemasons or however you came to be so sure.

    I've met Masons, can I ask how the person who is accusing him of being a mason can support their claim? No. The basis of prove means the person making the claim bares the burden of proof.
    And i speculate on the death oath because i am not a freemason and have no hard evidence.

    So you have no evidence. You stated as fact in your original post. Don't make a claim you don't evidence to support.
    It is a widely accepted aspect of being a freemason and wether they disclose that in the three ruffians site i dont know

    I could call you a paedophile and when challenged I could claim "hey I didn't know but it's widely accepted people with the user name of Torakx are paedophiles.

    Instead of making odious accusations and then falling back on "it's widely accepted" perhaps you have the courtesy of investigating these claims.

    You do understand that the location of the Freesmason hall in Dublin is not just public knowledge, but they even offer tours?
    but i highly doubt they would let you know which secrets are hidden and which are in plain sight,or which are protected by an oath.

    Unsubstantiated speculation. Have you ever met a freemanson?
    You are right in that the onus is on me to back up claims that i make.
    I made a statement about Tim Burton being a freemason when its possible he is only engaged into such a family and making films of there books as coincedence.I will retract the statement that he is a freemason if this will settle your hackles a bit and simply say i suspect he could be involved with freemasons because of some of his recent movies and relationships.

    So you are retracting your statement of fact and using conjecture and speculation, in the words of lionel Hutz "those are kind of like proof"


    I wouldnt bother also proving you work for imdb.I personally wouldnt wish others to give out personal information or even public about themselves when it is unnecesary.
    It only would show you met him or spoke to him,i cant see how it is of benefit or importance to proving he isnt or is a mason.
    I would help you to prove me wrong but my theory goes against all that mainstream believes so its a much easier solution and climb for me to try prove i am right and fail thereby helping me and all to see there was no merit in this theory.
    But it must be given a chance before we can discount it.
    Why not help me do just that by using links to pictures,videos,articles so i can see clearly there is no way my op can be seen as being a reality.
    So far from you i have recieved mild insults and baseless insinuations more than assistance in finding the truth.Do you wish to help a crazy person as you say or just insult my views for entertainment?
    Either is no worries for me you may continue to throw insults and degrade my forum name if you like,but i will just carry on posting like you are not there if i cant get any constructive critic from you.
    No hard feelings btw and non taken.


    I work in film editing, and have a degree in specialisation in CGI and computer animation. I was offered a position on his next film a part cgi a Part stop motion protect based on his first short film. I can happily provide information about this to a mod. Alernatively I'll provide this information to you personally once you get off your arse and sodding read fight club.

    Do you know for example that David Fincher was 2nd unit model director on Return of Jedi, and personally handled the entire attack on the death star?

    And christ if you're going to get paranoid about the motifs of one of his films, would you not be so bloody lazy, and go and watch "the Game".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    @torakx

    Can you clarify what it is you want to find

    is it that he is part of the illuminatti or has ties to them in any way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    enno99 wrote: »
    @torakx

    Can you clarify what it is you want to find

    is it that he is part of the illuminatti or has ties to them in any way

    I dont think Edward Norton is defo in the Illuminatti.Its too early to tell as he is mainly an actor but since i found he is directing Obama videos and co producing movies i am a little suspicious about it.
    I originally didnt have any thoughts on him other than i had watched The Leaves Of Green and the Scene about Israel was so unnecesary in the movie that it made me wonder about other Norton movies and then fight club for some reason popped into my head.Because i remember it was a strangly made film i followed it up a bit and saw some things in fight club that might of carried on to this Leaves Of Green film.
    But from the commentary of the Israel speech as i call it there isnt alot to go by so im really grasping at straws at the moment with the Israel part because they are up to so much and will be soon i bet and that its hardly looking like that part is going to be a shocker.

    To sum up i would love some help finding any connections between Edward Norton and any Israeli officials,Israeli's from the film industry and any other politicians or feemasons who might have met with him or been close with him.
    Or just anything you personally think will show for or against the idea that someone in the movie industry is using big actors and movies as a pre-emptive cushion to a future attack or infamous act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    @ torakx

    his grandfathers foundation should get the ball rolling

    http://www.nndb.com/org/159/000056988


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Torakx wrote: »

    Or just anything you personally think will show for or against the idea that someone in the movie industry is using big actors and movies as a pre-emptive cushion to a future attack or infamous act.


    I'm trying to grasp the logic of your claim? Why would they try and "cushion" people from the impact of a "future attack" or "infamous act"?

    [/quote]



    According to the above website, The guy spends a decent chunk of his free time, raising money to build affordable housing for vulnerable people.
    What an awful human being....


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Torakx wrote: »
    To sum up i would love some help finding any connections between Edward Norton and any Israeli officials,Israeli's from the film industry and any other politicians or feemasons who might have met with him or been close with him.
    .

    Here is one.

    Edward Norton is represent by Endeavor Talent Agency.
    Edward Norton
    c/o Endeavor Talent Agency,LLC
    9701 Wilshire Blvd. 10th Floor
    Beverly Hills CA 90212 http://www.edward-norton.org/faqs.html

    Endeavor was co-founded by Ari Emanuel
    Ariel "Ari" Zev Emanuel (born March 29, 1961 in Chicago, Illinois) is an American talent agent, founder of the Endeavor Talent Agency in Beverly Hills, California, and now CEO of William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, Endeavor's successor by merger.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Emanuel
    Emanuel's name was in an advertisement in the Los Angeles Times (17 August 2006) that condemned Hamas and Hezbollah and supported Israel in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Emanuel

    And there is more...

    Ari is the brother of Rahm Emanuel, Obama's puppeteer chief-of-staff. He volunteered in the Gulf War for the IDF, not America. (Which ties into the myth of dual loyalties in another thread). Another brother is Ezequel Emanuel another Obama appointee and another who'd be fitting of the moniker Dr Death.
    Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, health adviser to President Barack Obama, is under scrutiny. As a bioethicist, he has written extensively about who should get medical care, who should decide, and whose life is worth saving. Dr. Emanuel is part of a school of thought that redefines a physician’s duty, insisting that it includes working for the greater good of society instead of focusing only on a patient’s needs http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html

    All three brothers are the spawn of an Israeli terrorist - Benjamin Emanuel who was a member of Irgun. They killed 91 people (dressed as arabs) in the bombing of the King David Hotel amongst other atrocities.

    Here is a promotional website showing pictures of **** they blew up.
    http://www.etzel.org.il/english/photo/frame.htm

    Irgun were founded by Jabotinski were the precursor to the current ruling Likud Party and are tightly linked with modern day Zionism


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    According to the above website, The guy spends a decent chunk of his free time, raising money to build affordable housing for vulnerable people.
    What an awful human being....[/QUOTE]

    offical webites tend to be that way

    Its whos in the backround

    http://www.nndb.com/people/005/000025927/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Torakx, i dont have that much time on my hands lately so i cant be of much assistance to you on this topic but i will link you to a website which is dedicated to exposing illuminati cult symbolism in hollywood and the music industry.It is owned by a guy who was on the "inside" of the entertainment industry and has a good knowledge of video interpretations.....

    http://vigilantcitizen.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    To be honest, I don't think his representation is a particularly good link. It's a bit too "6 degrees of seperation". Emanuel can even be linked to the construction of the Dublin Port Tunnel, for example. And almost all actors in Hollywood are either from the William Morris Agency or CAA, so the chances of him not being represented by them is fairly low.

    Also, Willian Morris also represents Mel Gibson, and we all know how he feels about Jews. :D

    Now, it's possible that the likes of Mel Gibson is used as a cover so no one would think that Emanuel would be behind that sort of thing, or maybe they simply didn't know (or maybe just didn't care), but it would make you think about their dedication to their cause if they would allow someone like that to be in their agency.

    With regards to Norton producing Leaves Of Grass, most actors would ask for a production credit, either as Executive Producer, if they don't want to do any work, or just as Producer if they want to get their hands dirty (they also get a hell of a lot more money producing than acting). So it isn't really anything that any other actor wouldn't have chosen to do, especially in a smaller budget movie.

    And with the drugdealer who makes the speech, doesn't Norton kill him? Isn't that kind of going against the Zionism that the speech could represent? So, Norton kills a zionist in that film, in Fight Club he's anti-establishment, in the Hulk he's against the US military, in The Illusionist he's against a monarch (authority), in The Score and The Italian Job he's untrustworthy and in Primal Fear and Keeping The Faith isn't he up against the Church.

    So, it kind of brings me back to what I said earlier that if he is being groomed, could it be a kind of reverse psychology, or could it be that he is being groomed by someone who's anti-zionist, who's trying to turn people against the US and Israel? Just a thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    humanji wrote: »
    So, it kind of brings me back to what I said earlier that if he is being groomed, could it be a kind of reverse psychology, or could it be that he is being groomed by someone who's anti-zionist, who's trying to turn people against the US and Israel? Just a thought.

    Whether its reverse psychology or not, I'd imagine that it would really only be likely to effect a subset of those who tend to watch material with Edward Norton and little else.

    Norton is only in so much stuff.....which is tiny in comparison to the quantity of material the average Joe will watch. Signal to noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    he probably just likes making movies that have some relevence to current affairs

    he does make his fair share of drivel though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Ye i have thought that might be the case also which is what annoys me about this theory is that im not sure which way around it is but it certainly feels like there was something there to consider which way in the first place and that intrigues me if its true.

    Thanks everyone for that burst of info :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Here is one.

    Edward Norton is represent by Endeavor Talent Agency.



    Endeavor was co-founded by Ari Emanuel





    And there is more...

    Ari is the brother of Rahm Emanuel, Obama's puppeteer chief-of-staff. He volunteered in the Gulf War for the IDF, not America. (Which ties into the myth of dual loyalties in another thread). Another brother is Ezequel Emanuel another Obama appointee and another who'd be fitting of the moniker Dr Death.



    All three brothers are the spawn of an Israeli terrorist - Benjamin Emanuel who was a member of Irgun. They killed 91 people (dressed as arabs) in the bombing of the King David Hotel amongst other atrocities.

    Here is a promotional website showing pictures of **** they blew up.
    http://www.etzel.org.il/english/photo/frame.htm

    Irgun were founded by Jabotinski were the precursor to the current ruling Likud Party and are tightly linked with modern day Zionism


    So the man has the termirity of being a successful actor involved with Jewish groups and being involved in politics and charity. What a fuking bastard.

    Weirdly my grandad was a blueshirit does that mean I'm a member of fine gael.

    The sheer stupidity and ignorance of the logic that X's grandad held a point of view ergo Y hold same position well just, is well stupid.

    Oh and RF volunteered because israeli was under attack. Scuds were landing on Israeli soil and there was no way to ensure that the missiles didn't have a chemical or biological warhead.

    An old friend's mother volunteered as nurse at the outbreak of the the 7 day war, I'm sure shes a foaming zionists, no, out wait she was among hundreds of jews who marched against the Iraq war. Doh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Somebody mentioned why would Edward Nortons character kill the drug dealer if my theory was true.
    I think it could be taken many ways which is annoying for me,because it does mean i cant home in on anything solid still.How do i prove mind control in a movie? Not easy to gather the evidence.Alot of mind control is supposed to blur the lines to be taken in two or more ways.
    It is so already with standard films that there is a symbolic meaning in the background.Then add the mind control part and its a mess in there :)

    It does appear that there are people that may have their allegiances to Israel while taking over the american media.
    They seem to be at the root of the the agent companies for alot of the big actors too.
    So for me it looks like we have established there is a chance that Israel could be using propoganda on americans through movies at the least.I havent looked into tv shows and new channels yet O.o

    I really dont know alot about politics in Israel so i hope people can forgive my ignorance.
    I was wondering with all the above in mind did Israel have anything to gain as a country or maybe its elite from the war(post 9-11) against Osama and the rest of the official cnn type story?

    Small update.
    http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/lights-camera-distraction/
    A very interesting article here about America's politics in the middle east.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Di0genes wrote: »
    So the man has the termirity of being a successful actor involved with Jewish groups and being involved in politics and charity. What a fuking bastard.
    Really, is the best retort you can come up with, his involvement is less an issue to his Activities, which is what we were discussing.
    Weirdly my grandad was a blueshirit does that mean I'm a member of fine gael.
    the blueshirt bit explains a lot.
    The sheer stupidity and ignorance of the logic that X's grandad held a point of view ergo Y hold same position well just, is well stupid.
    Why?? Really, Why???
    As kids we absorb the culture we are surrounded with, I have picked up a lot of the traits and ideologies of My parents Grandparents etc.
    Oh and RF volunteered because israeli was under attack. Scuds were landing on Israeli soil and there was no way to ensure that the missiles didn't have a chemical or biological warhead.
    well then let him go and live in Israel, he clearly made a choice and decided where his loyalties lay, that wasnt America, I would be very suspicious of alowing anyone wield power when under the influence of a foreign military
    An old friend's mother volunteered as nurse at the outbreak of the the 7 day war, I'm sure shes a foaming zionists, no, out wait she was among hundreds of jews who marched against the Iraq war. Doh.

    Jew Jew Jew Jew Jew, sorry it seems you were having difficulty shoehorning the word into every sentence, So I thought I'd help you out;)

    I dont know your friends mother (or Do I :D:D) So I couldnt possibly comment on her specifics, but a nation which has compulsary military service and a First world medical service would probably have gotten on fine without her help, (I presume the War you are talkin about is the 6 Day War in 67) so realisticly she was a propaganda tool for the Israelis.

    Ask her how many Wounded Palestinians she treated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Are you guys trying to get banned????

    Seriously....enough of the aggression and bickering. If you can't discuss the topic civilly, then this isn't the place for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Arnon Milchan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnon_Milchan is the man supposedly involved with the Israeli president for many years.
    He also was the executive producer in Fight Club........

    Interesting link here with some damning statements.
    http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_il_control_coverup_pt1.pdf
    page 8 says,

    " The "hidden hand" suppressing the information about 9-11
    would have to be a high-level person in the Israeli politicalmilitary
    intelligence establishment who also has very close
    relations with media kingpins like Murdoch, Levin, and Eisner.
    Arnon Milchan (a.k.a. Milchen) is such a person.

    While millions of Americans have watched his films, such as
    Pretty Woman and JFK, very few know that Arnon Milchan is a
    "best friend" of Shimon Peres (born Szymon Perski in
    Wiśniewo, Poland) the current Israeli president and godfather
    of Israel's nuclear arsenal.

    Peres, is widely regarded as the architect of Israel's nuclear
    weapons programme. (Milchan is also good friends of Ehud
    Barak and Benjamin Netanyahu.)
    Milchan's 40-year friendship with Peres, the man who oversaw
    the construction of Israel's nuclear weapon program is key to
    understanding Milchan's career as an undercover operative,
    weapons procurer, and film producer."

    If this is anyway true all thats left is to figure out is wether that Israel speech is significant with a future event.

    Maybe An invasion into Iran by the US on Israels behalf?

    I will refer now to a piece of that so called speech.
    " Listen,I give nearly every cent i make to the state of Israel,because Israel is where we put our foot down.And we said no more,we aint gonna be taken advantage of no more!"

    Is that the American/Israeli(pretty much what the jewish drugdealer represented) complex speaking to america?
    Maybe even in mockery because its hidden.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Torakx wrote: »
    Arnon Milchan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnon_Milchan is the man supposedly involved with the Israeli president for many years.
    He also was the executive producer in Fight Club........

    Interesting link here with some damning statements.
    http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_il_control_coverup_pt1.pdf
    page 8 says,
    the jewish drugdealer represented) complex speaking to america?
    Maybe even in mockery because its hidden.


    The first link on nogw.com is a link to an article by Christopher Bollyn a holocaust denier who is on the run after being convicted of assault case, where his own wife was a prosecution witness.
    Would it kill you to research your sources.

    I'm not dignifying Mahatma's response.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    The King David Hotel was a British Military Base when it was attacked. It was during the British Mandate of Palestine. History books are full of comparisons between the IRA and IRGUN.

    Considering we have our own fair share of "Terrorists" in our own government, Brown Bombers point is sterile and simply a cheap smear tactic. Many historians also note the many similarities between Irgun and the IRA regarding tactics. Yithzak Shamir even used the name Michael Collins as his nom de guerre.


    It was polish members of IRGUN who were behind the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, BTW.

    The son of a Lithuanian immigrant, and brought up in a strictly orthodox Jewish family, Robert Briscoe (1894-1969) was sent to America by his father in 1914, apparently for fear of conscription -- incidentally, the British never imposed conscription in Ireland because of overwhelming objection from the Irish population. Briscoe returned to Ireland after the Easter Rising in 1916. He joined Fianna Éireann and was sent by Michael Collins to Germany and United States to procure arms for the IRA.

    http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/event.php?eid=1435

    Briscoe also worked for Irgun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Di0genes wrote: »
    The first link on nogw.com is a link to an article by Christopher Bollyn a holocaust denier who is on the run after being convicted of assault case, where his own wife was a prosecution witness.
    Would it kill you to research your sources.

    I'm not dignifying Mahatma's response.

    Are you saying this man is lying about Milchan's friendship with the Israeli president(Shimon Peres)?


    Ps. is this the incident that is questioning his whole story?
    http://www.rense.com/general76/boll.htm looks like he was being harrassed to me,but i dont know the full story yet or wether this is even the one mentioned earlier.
    I did find out he lived in Israel with his girlfriend who he admits marrying later because of visa trouble.
    Is it possible his wife was a mossad agent?
    That would explain how the american authorities were able to convict him to shut him up about 9/11.
    Or he could be a mossad spy.Maybe someone can shed more light on that topic with regards evidence either for or against.Il keep looking anyhow.

    Some more of the story http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-Proof-of-Conspiracy.html
    Despite these guys allegiances it is still obvious Bolyn was right about the Israeli governments Arnon Millchan one of the biggest film producers in America.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Some more info on Norton.

    His father Edward Mower Jr was a Woodrow Wilson Fellow at The Russian Institute of Columbia University. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19660306&id=29EbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Uk8EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3600,2866881

    Established through the Rockefeller Foundation
    http://www.jstor.org/pss/3143693

    Columbia, or the goddess of Columbia is synonomous with the Illuminati as seen here on the logos of Columbia Broadcasting
    CBS.jpg
    And Columbia Motion Pictures
    ColumbiaPictures.jpg

    His Grandfather James Rouse developed a whole community which he named Columbia. He is also the father of the American shopping mall.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rouse

    His Uncle Willard G. Rouse III owned of the 20 largest public real estate businesses in the US. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/29/business/willard-g-rouse-iii-60-dies-shaped-philadelphia-skyline.html?pagewanted=1

    Yale Graduate Edward Norton, from an influential and affluent family with connections to the White House (his father was attorney for President Jimmy Carter) looks like a good candidate for Skull & Bones.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    studiorat wrote: »

    The King David Hotel also catered to civilians. His father was a terrorist no matter how anyone tries to paint him.

    That was actually interesting reading thanks, but off topic.
    Here is a good info on Irgun including plans to assasinate the British Foriegn Secretary and drop a bomb from a plane onto the House of Commons.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20060724.shtml

    I wont respond to this on this thread in an attempt to stay on-topic.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Di0genes wrote: »
    So the man has the termirity of being a successful actor involved with Jewish groups and being involved in politics and charity. What a fuking bastard.

    Weirdly my grandad was a blueshirit does that mean I'm a member of fine gael.

    The sheer stupidity and ignorance of the logic that X's grandad held a point of view ergo Y hold same position well just, is well stupid.

    Oh and RF volunteered because israeli was under attack. Scuds were landing on Israeli soil and there was no way to ensure that the missiles didn't have a chemical or biological warhead.

    An old friend's mother volunteered as nurse at the outbreak of the the 7 day war, I'm sure shes a foaming zionists, no, out wait she was among hundreds of jews who marched against the Iraq war. Doh.


    :pac::pac::pac: Were you drunk writing that? Don't know what your banging on about. And anymore personal insults and I will report your posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    I said enough of the bickering and I meant it.

    If all you want to do is take digs at each other, do it somewhere else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    the goddess of Columbia?

    persephone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Some more info on Norton.

    His father Edward Mower Jr was a Woodrow Wilson Fellow at The Russian Institute of Columbia University. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19660306&id=29EbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Uk8EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3600,2866881

    Established through the Rockefeller Foundation
    http://www.jstor.org/pss/3143693

    Very good. You found the word Rockerfeller, so there must be lizzzards nearby. The same foundation funds the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs. I suppose they are freemasons too.
    Columbia, or the goddess of Columbia is synonomous with the Illuminati as seen here on the logos of Columbia Broadcasting
    CBS.jpg
    And Columbia Motion Pictures
    ColumbiaPictures.jpg

    Completely makey-up. Never a Goddess Columbia. It's from Gullivers Travels. :rolleyes:

    You are really grasping at straws here chaps.

    Space Shuttle Columbia? Space Shuttle Atlantis??? Wow the connections! It's all starting to add up! :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    :pac::pac::pac: Were you drunk writing that? Don't know what your banging on about. And anymore personal insults and I will report your posts.

    Glossing over the fact that you probably don't see the irony of crying about personal insult in a post in which you actually personally insulted someone only two lines previously....

    What exactly are you having difficulty understanding? The point that you can't tar someone for the sins of their ancestors? Hell, we're not even talking sins here as you seem to think there is some signifigence in the fact that Norton's Granddad built some shopping malls in the 50's. Do you have any doubt that if you became famous you would have some paranoid CT's on the internet digging up 'dirt' on your family, and they would find it as well.

    You also see some significance in the fact that he is represented by Endeavour Talent Agent. Also with Endeavour is left-wing filmmaker Michael Winterbottem who has made many pro-Muslim films and who's next film, "The Promised Land," is an "anti-Zionist project about heroic struggle of British mandate police against Jewish terrorists in Palestine during the World War II."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Winterbottom#Future_projects

    But that doesn't fit in with your world view so can probably be ignored right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Don't forget Michael Moore. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    studiorat wrote: »
    Very good. You found the word Rockerfeller, so there must be lizzzards nearby. The same foundation funds the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs. I suppose they are freemasons too.




    Completely makey-up. Never a Goddess Columbia. It's from Gullivers Travels. :rolleyes:





    You are really grasping at straws here chaps.

    Space Shuttle Columbia? Space Shuttle Atlantis??? Wow the connections! It's all starting to add up! :eek:

    Probably take months of research to find some seemingly legimate organizations funded by rockefeller foundation
    that turned out to be full of spooks and not what they seemed at all

    Oh yea the godess look who makey-upped it

    http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/swift_j/swift_j.html


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    enno99 wrote: »
    Probably take months of research to find some seemingly legimate organizations funded by rockefeller foundation
    that turned out to be full of spooks and not what they seemed at all

    Oh yea the godess look who makey-upped it

    http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/swift_j/swift_j.html

    And Columbus sailed with the Red Cross of the Knights Templar
    columbus.jpg


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    studiorat wrote: »
    Don't forget Michael Moore. :eek:
    Michael Moore is a shill. :eek:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    enno99 wrote: »
    Probably take months of research to find some seemingly legimate organizations funded by rockefeller foundation
    that turned out to be full of spooks and not what they seemed at all

    Oh yea the godess look who makey-upped it

    http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/swift_j/swift_j.html

    Yes lets look at your own link

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans] Swift is recorded as having expended a third of his income on charity.
    [/FONT]

    Thats right a third of his fortune to charity, what a complete bastard He helped fund Dudrum mental asylum.

    As I have pointed out that you have no evidence that freemasons are an evil cult, and I find it funny that you think a cult of evil genius' controlling the world leave so much evidence around them. Evidence that is apparently acceptable to any idiot who can use google.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Glossing over the fact that you probably don't see the irony of crying about personal insult in a post in which you actually personally insulted someone only two lines previously....
    some paranoid CT's
    :D

    Michael Winterbottem who has made many pro-Muslim films

    :D:D:D WTF is a "pro-Muslim film"? And please name one backed by a major producer.
    and who's next film, "The Promised Land," is an "anti-Zionist project

    Please clarify in your own opinion why a policeman tracking terrorists is anti-Zionist.

    Was the Hollywood WTC movie anti-arab in your opinion?

    Please name some more Hollywood "anti-Zionist" movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Yes lets look at your own link




    Thats right a third of his fortune to charity, what a complete bastard He helped fund Dudrum mental asylum.

    As I have pointed out that you have no evidence that freemasons are an evil cult, and I find it funny that you think a cult of evil genius' controlling the world leave so much evidence around them. Evidence that is apparently acceptable to any idiot who can use google.

    There you go again Fu*kin your rattle out of the pram

    Do you think I dont read the links that I post even if he gave 100% of his money to charity he was still a freemason

    Where did I say anybody was evil?


    Furthermore I am neither ignorant /stupid or an idiot I might not have your high level of education but I feel all the better for it.

    If thats your reaction just because somebody mentioned a prospective employer you might have in a post on a CT thread

    So anyway mull this over

    http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    enno99 wrote: »
    Probably take months of research to find some seemingly legimate organizations funded by rockefeller foundation
    that turned out to be full of spooks and not what they seemed at all

    Oh yea the godess look who makey-upped it

    http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/swift_j/swift_j.html

    No mention of a Goddess Columbia though! Because there never was one. All the female characters in GT were popular versions of female names that were made up for countries around the 18th.

    And Columbus sailed with the Red Cross of the Knights Templar
    columbus.jpg

    Ah here, I can smell the desparation at this stage. First of all the Templars disbanded about 200 years before Columbus. And secondly, what the hell is that. A bloody picture of some boat? Wait no a photograph of the Santa Maria?

    It's a portugese Order of Christ symbol. No connection to the Freemasons who came about 300 years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    If anyone finds links between Arnon Milchan(aka Milchen)pictured in the middle and Ed Norton id be interested to find them.
    avsmith-32.jpg

    He is long time friend (40 years) to Israeli president and also knows well Benjamin Netanyahu who is the Israeli prime minister.
    I mentioned before that Arnon Milchan was involved with hollywood etc but i dont remember if i went into details.Here he is with the Fight Club co-star of Ed norton Bradd Pitt and i believe his wife Angelina Jolie.
    I think there might be connections with Milchan,Shimon Peres,Obamas administration and alot of hollywood stars.

    I think a good look at Milchan may bring some more clues as to who might be putting propoganda into hollywood type movies.
    The United States has a long time ago used movies to establish new prohibitions,I wouldnt put it past them to have careed on since Reefer Madness type movies with the propoganda
    6:10 he calls it a deadly drug O.o

    Propoganda existed in 1936.
    Common sense tells me that if they were doing basic stuff in the 1930's without any moral right then they sure as hell are going to perfect this propoganda and use it later on to better effect.
    Infact it is so well perfected that most people never even notice.


    ps. Milchan also appears to do alot of work with FOX studios and Warner Brothers if that means anything to anyone.
    http://boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Producer&id=arnonmilchan.htm


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