Champions League Quarter-Final Draw thread

orourkeda

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Tough quarter final for United - better than getting Barcelona, but Bayern scare me with their wingers. Ribery and Robben will be tough to contain!

Happy with the potential semi-final.

Now they have to get there

Ush1

davyjose wrote: »

instead of 2

How would they guarantee that?;)

I'd actually only think Barca and United would beat either of the sides realistically. Other sides could but I'd be more than happy to have drawn Arsenal or Inter. Bayern or CSKA, yes please.

Nalz

5starpool wrote: »

Utd to get Bordeaux and then face the winners of Lyon and CSKA Moscow.

BLA, BLA...FLUCKING BLA. United get the lucky draws to the final alright :rolleyes:

United CL Champs 1999
teams played - Munich x 3, Barcelona x 2, Inter x 2, Juventus x 2, Brondby x 2

United CL Champions 2008
teams played - Roma x 4, Sporting x 2, Kiev x 2, Lyon x 2, Barcelona x 2, Chelsea

United CL Runners up 2009
teams played - Villareal x 2, Celtic x 2, Aalborg x 2, Inter x 2, Porto x 2, Arsenal x 2, Barcelona

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orourkeda wrote: »

Now they have to get there

They will, without a shadow of a doubt.

orourkeda

Des wrote: »

The only thing that went against United is that they are home first in the Semi

Anyone would think that they are already in the semi

Paul Tergat

JPA wrote: »

Well that's United in a third final in a row.

No we must win the quarters and semis to get there first. Away with all this bs about easy draws and the likes

orourkeda

Des wrote: »

They will, without a shadow of a doubt.

I take it the deeds of your house are with Paddy Power

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orourkeda wrote: »

Anyone would think that they are already in the semi

They are, there is no doubt in my mind that they will prove too much for Bayern.

United are already in the Final.

SantryRed

p_larkin99 wrote: »

No we must win the quarters and semis to get there first. Away with all this bs about easy draws and the likes

But it is an easy draw. It'll take some fcuk up by United not to be playing in the Bernabeu come May.

davyjose

Ush1 wrote: »

How would they guarantee that?;)

I'm only kidding, but i'd say the two French sides are possibly the 2 weakest sides left (maybe CSKA), either way, the likelihood an hour ago, IMO, was that neither would make the semis.

orourkeda

Des wrote: »

They are, there is no doubt in my mind that they will prove too much for Bayern.

United are already in the Final.

Bayern should just give them the walkover so.

You know best

Ush1

davyjose wrote: »

I'm only kidding, but i'd say the two French sides are possibly the 2 weakest sides left (maybe CSKA), either way, the likelihood an hour ago, IMO, was that neither would make the semis.

Totally wrong. Did you even watch Bords group, you do know Bayern was there?

JPA

p_larkin99 wrote: »

No we must win the quarters and semis to get there first. Away with all this bs about easy draws and the likes

United will beat Bayern by 3 clear goals over the 2 legs and the same in the semi. Obviously I'm not stating fact, just giving my opinion.

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orourkeda wrote: »

Bayern should just give them the walkover so.

Agreed

LuckyLloyd

Trilla wrote: »

BLA, BLA...FLUCKING BLA. United get the lucky draws to the final alright :rolleyes:

United CL Champs 1999
teams played - Munich x 3, Barcelona x 2, Inter x 2, Juventus x 2, Brondby x 2

United CL Champions 2008
teams played - Roma x 4, Sporting x 2, Kiev x 2, Lyon x 2, Barcelona x 2, Chelsea

United CL Runners up 2009
teams played - Villareal x 2, Celtic x 2, Aalborg x 2, Inter x 2, Porto x 2, Arsenal x 2, Barcelona

Just saying.

IvySlayer

Lol I love when reporters slip up...Arselona...hehehehehe

kryogen

Cant see it being a walkover against Bayern, they have a great threat from both wings and that troubles me

We will have to be on top of our game to beat them

davyjose

Ush1 wrote: »

Totally wrong. Did you even watch Bords group, you do know Bayern was there?

I'm totally wrong? Thanks for letting me know that.

A french team are guaranteed to be in the semis, and you think what? That if they'd been kept apart we'd have 2 French teams in the semis? More likely we'd have none. So yeah, I think the French did well drawing each other - from a french, neutral perspective.

Liam O

IvySlayer wrote: »

Lol I love when reporters slip up...Arselona...hehehehehe

noticed that too, thought it might be a bit immature to post though

L'prof

IvySlayer wrote: »

Lol I love when reporters slip up...Arselona...hehehehehe

Sounds like a good name for the fixture though, that or Barcenal!

Ush1

davyjose wrote: »

I'm totally wrong? Thanks for letting me know that.

A french team are guaranteed to be in the semis, and you think what? That if they'd been kept apart we'd have 2 French teams in the semis? More likely we'd have none. So yeah, I think the French did well drawing each other - from a french, neutral perspective.

It's you're opinion, and strongly misguided as the evidence I pointed out suggested. You said the 2 weakest, possibly CSKA are weaker.

Bordeaux comfortably topped there group containing Juve and Bayern.
Lyon beat and drew with Liverpool, also beat and drew with Real Madrid, again, relatively comfortably.

So yes, I think if the two French teams were seperated and didn't draw Barca or United they'd have more than a butchers chance with a sausage.

JPA

Passes under 5 yards from the Arsenal - Barca quarter final - 523,417.

eZe^

gimmick wrote: »

Thats a fun draw. Soem cracking ties there,and Barca Man U on opposite sides?

And Barca have home advantage for the 2nd leg both times should it transpire that way.

It's about time Gimmick, I'm sick of playing the big guns over two legs and having the 2nd leg away. Chelsea last year, Man United the year before, Liverpool the year before that, Chelsea again the year before that (albeit we got home advantage against Milan in the semi's).

Liam O wrote: »

don't see why, Barca aren't known for their defensive stability

I hope you're being sarcastic? Best team defensively in Europe this season.


Anyway, great draw for United, but that in itself could be their downfall, Bayern alebit not that good defensively, are well capable of scoring against United. They've looked fragile in defense at times, and Bayern have hit top form recently, and imo have a better all around attacking team than United. Van Bommel will be the key, can his dirty kick people around (he's a nastier and better version of Motta really) the pitch approach shackle the Rooneys/ Berbatovs.


As for Barca, hardest possible run to a final I can remember. Playing in a group where every team was domestic champions, and now the possibility of facing Arsenal, Inter, and United to retain it. I really don't see us winning the CL this year, but I'd love to teach Arsenal a footballing lesson. However I fear them more than any other team in the competition now (it'll be interesting to see who holds onto the ball better). I was hoping United would dispatch them before we would have to face them. Although it would be an absolute dream to retain the CL in the Bobby Brown of all places.


I'd say the QF tie is slighty in Barca's favour, but that's because we have home advantage for the 2nd leg, which can make all the difference. The key is scoring at the Emirates, as Chelsea found out to their detriment that a 0-0 draw away from home can be catastrophic. So this is what I want to see happen;

QF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4XM5x3rRss

Semi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-2aVMLqe1s

Final

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMtEF6WCvAA

Here's hoping anyway..... :D:D

Pepe LeFrits

I prefer Arse-Barce.

Nalz

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Just saying.

lol highlighting Villareal, Celtic, Roma and especially Lyon - these are tough enough games. Then leaving out the mighty Danish Brondby!

LuckyLloyd

Trilla wrote: »

lol highlighting Villareal, Celtic, Roma and especially Lyon - these are tough enough games. Then leaving out the mighty Danish Brondby!

Nope, tis all relative young grasshopper. I didn't highlight Brondby because 1999 was indisputably difficult from start to finish. Ye had one cupcake, don't matter.

davyjose

Ush1 wrote: »

Bordeaux comfortably topped there group containing Juve and Bayern.
Lyon beat and drew with Liverpool, also beat and drew with Real Madrid, again, relatively comfortably.

That's fair enough. I'm giving Bayern the edge on reputation. But Barca, United, Arsenal and Inter were avoided by the French teams. Plus they're guaranteed a team in the semi's. I think that's a fair enough outcome given the strength of French football. 2 French teams in the semi's, for me, is not very plausible.

Ush1

davyjose wrote: »

That's fair enough. I'm giving Bayern the edge on reputation. But Barca, United, Arsenal and Inter were avoided by the French teams. Plus they're guaranteed a team in the semi's. I think that's a fair enough outcome given the strength of French football. 2 French teams in the semi's, for me, is not very plausible.

I'm guessing you don't watch much French football. But hey...

Nalz

Looking forward to the Arsenal game. Should be a classic. Bendter to make a name for himself and a big transfer to Real awaits

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Nope, tis all relative young grasshopper. I didn't highlight Brondby because 1999 was indisputably difficult from start to finish. Ye had one cupcake, don't matter.

Cupcakes and grasshoppers are my favourite cuisine.

L'prof

eZe^ wrote: »

So this is what I want to see happen:

QF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4XM5x3rRss

Quite likely since that clown is still in goals for us!

eZe^

Also, lol at the possibility of Ronaldo watching his old team mates play in his favourite boyhood stadium for the final. He'll be fairly depressed considering Rooney and co will have stepped out onto the field, and the next time he'll be doing that at the very earliest is a 2010/2011 pre season friendly.

Pepe LeFrits

Well, seems highly unlikely van Persie will be fit for either game... Nick Bendtner fancies himself as a bit of a rich man's Zlatan Ibrahimovic, let's see how many chances he can fluff

davyjose

Ush1 wrote: »

I'm guessing you don't watch much French football. But hey...

No I don't watch a lot of it. But I stand by the fact they're not the strongest league in Europe.

Edit: I'm getting bored with arguing the merits of French football. You think they could have had 2 in the semi's, I think they've done well guaranteeing 1. C'est la vie.

kryogen

French League is not one of the strongest in Europe

Neither is the German league

Teams from those leagues can still cause problems on their day though

Ush1

davyjose wrote: »

No I don't watch a lot of it. But I stand by the fact they're not the strongest league in Europe.

Haha, yes, because that's what you said originally. Outside of Barca and Man. United, they could beat the others.

UnitedIrishman

Confident enough against Bayern although it will be tougher than Milan. Robben and Ribery, if fit will be a handful but their defence, particularly Butt in goals, are average at best.

Pro. F

What a good draw for United, we have a great chance of getting to the final now. I was hoping we would draw Bayern so I'm delighted. They are very suspect defensively and too reliant on their wingers. I see United squeezing them in possession and cutting off their supply to the wide men. Score draw in Germany and then a comfortable win at home. Bish bash bosh

Either of the French teams would be tricky but still easier than Barce, Arse or Inter.

The two serious worries for United are:
-If Rooney is unable to play any game
-Our right back, Nev/Raf are very likely to cost us at least one goal at some stage

As a neutral the Barcenal game is a mouth watering prospect and it all makes me suspect that the draw was rigged.

Warper

I think Barca are worthy favs for the comp and I do not fear Arsenal over 2 legs at all. Having the second leg at home is a big plus and Barca could destroy Arsenal especially at Camp Nou. When 2 teams play a similar style, it often is a case of the best team going through which is undoubtably Barcelona.

Then more than likely Inter in the semi's. Barca have already played Inter twice in this years comp - an easy draw in Italy and an easy victory in Spain. Again Barca would be hot favs to progress. I disagree that this years draw is harder than last year for Barca. The Group was harder alright no doubt but the knockout stages have been kinder - Stuttgart, Arsenal, Inter (Moscow) this year compared to Lyon, Bayern and Chelsea last year with 2 of the second legs away last year. This year Barca have it a bit easier.

Regards the other half - Munich have 2 of the best wingers in the world but have a shake defense. They will cause problems but Utd should be too savvy for them and Utd to get through. The all-French quarter is a toss of a coin and they are capable of producing another shock in the semi.

Looks like a Utd-Barca final again but I wouldn't rule out the French just yet.

ROCKMAN

Utd v Bayern sh6uld be a cracker ,will be no walkover for either team , Give the edge to Utd mainly because of the home 2nd leg.

Also cannot wait for the Arsenal v Barcelona games to be honest ,Think these two games will live up to the hype ,should be a great spectacle . Expecting alot for these two legs

davyjose

Warper wrote: »

I think Barca are worthy favs for the comp and I do not fear Arsenal over 2 legs at all. Having the second leg at home is a big plus and Barca could destroy Arsenal especially at Camp Nou. When 2 teams play a similar style, it often is a case of the best team going through which is undoubtably Barcelona.

Then more than likely Inter in the semi's. Barca have already played Inter twice in this years comp - an easy draw in Italy and an easy victory in Spain. Again Barca would be hot favs to progress. I disagree that this years draw is harder than last year for Barca. The Group was harder alright no doubt but the knockout stages have been kinder - Stuttgart, Arsenal, Inter (Moscow) this year compared to Lyon, Bayern and Chelsea last year with 2 of the second legs away last year. This year Barca have it a bit easier.

Regards the other half - Munich have 2 of the best wingers in the world but have a shake defense. They will cause problems but Utd should be too savvy for them and Utd to get through. The all-French quarter is a toss of a coin and they are capable of producing another shock in the semi.

Looks like a Utd-Barca final again but I wouldn't rule out the French just yet.

you're pretty quick to rule out Arsenal. I wouldn't be. I think Arsenal have a chance.

Pro. F

jasonorr wrote: »

Quite likely since that clown is still in goals for us!

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Well, seems highly unlikely van Persie will be fit for either game... Nick Bendtner fancies himself as a bit of a rich man's Zlatan Ibrahimovic, let's see how many chances he can fluff

It's such a horrible combination of your shìtest players at the moment at either end of the pitch. Maybe Bendtner will get some sort of hot streak going by the time of the CL games.

Kev_ps3

Utds record against Bayern is poor (one win in 7) but I still fancy us because of the home second leg.
Delighted Arsenal got a very tough draw. If they win the champ league they will have really earned it!

L'prof

Pro. F wrote: »

It's such a horrible combination of your shìtest players at the moment at either end of the pitch. Maybe Bendtner will get some sort of hot streak going by the time of the CL games.

He's on a hot streak now!!!

Hoki

Trilla wrote: »

Looking forward to the Arsenal game. Should be a classic. Bendter to make a name for himself and a big transfer to Real awaits



Cupcakes and grasshoppers are my favourite cuisine.

Real Betis maybe, the guy needs about 10 chances to score

L'prof

Hoki wrote: »

Real Betis maybe, the guy needs about 10 chances to score

That's a pretty good average!

projectmayhem

United/Bayern should be a good time, it always is. But as we (Bayern) are likely to be going in as underdogs we have a good shot at this. Our team is solid and have gone through this season without much defeats.

Our weak link is the defense. Lahm is world class, if not one of the top 5 defensive players at the moment. van Buyten is brilliant, too, and should be able to hussle enough to frustrate Rooney, but he'll need to be Rooney's shadow. He's also so tall that it should stop Valencia from getting crosses that meet any United frontmen's head.

The Bayern midfield and wing prospect is good. I think United will spend 20 minutes shadowing Robben and Ribery... but both players always do much better when surrounded by 3 defenders. They seem to relish the chance to get past or knock a sneaky cross in, so I'm not to worried about that. While the United defense watch those two they'll likely under-estimate Gomez who should knock a few behind the goal. Schweinsteiger is a threat to goal as well as a good man to stop any balls being fed to Rooney. Plus van Bommel is amazing when he shows up - and so far this season he's only really shown up in big CL clashes... and scored against Fiorentina (a cracker too).

Either way, I think it's a fairly evenly matched game and a good one. Mouth-watering to any neutrals, scary for any fans of either side. It's going to be rough for Bayern to play away for the second leg.

eZe^

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Utds record against Bayern is poor (one win in 7)

You also never scored at the San Siro in your history, but this year managed to score 3. I wouldn't fret those kind of stats mate.

It'll be interesting to watch all the United fans hurling abuse at Van Bommel, because he is inevitably going to hurt Rooney, a number of times....

I'm predicting a repeat of last years final and result.

scudzilla

Great draw for United

Can see a repeat of last years final, only with a different outcome

flahavaj

Pretty surprised at people predicting United will stroll to the final. yes they got the easier side of the draw on paper but Munich are a decent side especially in this competition and especially against United.

Either way I think United will get found out eventually. I don't think they're good enough to win the CL.