commerical car vs jeep

db330

i'm in the process of getting a new commerical motor, at the minute i have a 3.2 pajero but i'm looking updating it as it has 240000km on it,

i'm trying to see if it is feasiable to get a commerical car over a jeep as i do rather high milage (jeep bougth new at end of 05) so its costing alot to run


can a car be converted to a commerical in the same way as a jeep (car most likely an a6 avant or similar size). so the only way for it to be worth while is to be able to claim the vat back and pay the €50 vrt like with a jeep.

we have someone who will do the conversion with all proper forms and documents.

I can't find anything to say why it can't be done but alot of people are saying it can't due to things like wheelbase, cargo area, weight... so if anyone knows anything can you please fill me in.

Theta

I thought it just had to be over a certain area to stop smaller cars being used.

I presume its the same as a jeep just remove the rear seats and weld over the mountings and black out the rear windows/

CJhaughey

It can be done, I know a guy with a Citroen C5 Exclusive and it is a commercial. Flat floor, weld over seatbelt holes and tint the back windows.
Your local VRO will tell you what you need to do, counties are different in theor requirements surprisingly.

R.O.R

Did it to a Passat Estate last year (Belgard used to sell them). Priced it up this year and it's not too expensive to have done professionally. Think it was around €2000 from Croftons crash repairs in Dublin.

Passat Estate qualify's for €50 VRT so the A6 Avant definately would.

mikewest

Do you absolutely need to have a commercial? the reason I ask is that you can buy an estate car (with the appropriate tax group A/B engine) for not a lot more than a commercial version with no annual DOE, cheaper motor tax, higher resale value and the possibility of dual use.

Just an idea

Theta

mikewest wrote: »

Do you absolutely need to have a commercial? the reason I ask is that you can buy an estate car (with the appropriate tax group A/B engine) for not a lot more than a commercial version with no annual DOE, cheaper motor tax, higher resale value and the possibility of dual use.

Just an idea

I presume if its commercial he wont pay BIK on it either.

mikewest

Theta wrote: »

I presume if its commercial he wont pay BIK on it either.

That is a variable as you may be liable to none, some or full BIK on a commercial. Original question stands as this didn't make any sense in the past but may do now and most people haven't worked out the pros and cons yet.

db330

mikewest wrote: »

Do you absolutely need to have a commercial? the reason I ask is that you can buy an estate car (with the appropriate tax group A/B engine) for not a lot more than a commercial version with no annual DOE, cheaper motor tax, higher resale value and the possibility of dual use.

Just an idea

If i go the route of a car it would need to be a decent size, and have a good towing ability, so the A6 Avant 3.0 Tdi or 530d touring are the main ones of interest, these are most likely not taxband A/B,

i would go the commerical route, as the road tax would be €288 a year and you only pay €50 VRT and then the vat would be re claimed, so for a car of this size (which is the size required for my needs with work) its not worth doing unless this can be done,

as for the BIK i'm not sure how that would work and that would be looked into later on,

but the question was can it be done in the same way as the jeeps, (same pros and cons).

L1011

I have JUST shy of 200,000km on a May '06 registered Citroen C4 commercial now and I've a feeling it could do another 50,000 if need be. That model is too small for you I'd suspect but it shows that the cars can do that kind of mileage.

db330

I just found out tht in order to qualify for the €50 VRT the car must have a GVW of 2520KG's or greater, and the wheel base must be over 2.5m,

so all the estates tht i was interested in all fall below the GVW by under 100kG's.

So R.O.R if you could fill me in on how you managed to get the VRT at that rate it would be a great help.

alias no.9

db330 wrote: »

I just found out tht in order to qualify for the €50 VRT the car must have a GVW of 2520KG's or greater, and the wheel base must be over 2.5m,

so all the estates tht i was interested in all fall below the GVW by under 100kG's.

So R.O.R if you could fill me in on how you managed to get the VRT at that rate it would be a great help.

VRT would be category B, car / jeep derived vans, 13.5%.