Dave McSavage..making a tool of himself as usual.

Degsy

http://www.fma.ie/faith_in_media/2010/3/press_release_minister_should_distance_himself.html

Seems like mcsavage is in trouble again for his attempts at "comedy"..this time joking about child abuse.


Minister should distance himself from brother’s joke about child abuse



In an interview during yesterday's The Saturday Night Show broadcast on RTÉ One television, David McSavage, brother of the Minister for Children, Barry Andrews made light of the issue of child abuse and was highly offensive to the vast majority of Catholics who abhor abuse.

In response to the following question/statement by the Show's Presenter, Brendan O'Connor, "Your brother is Barry Andrews, the Minister for Children?", Mr McSavage replied,"Yes he is and I used to kick the sh** out of him when he was a child!"

Later on, after bringing up the topic of the Catholic Church, Mr McSavage said, "I mean, but if it was a choice between a heroine addict and a priest to baby sit my child...", at which point Mr O'Connor intervened to cut short the topic.

Mr McSavage's comments take on added significance when one considers the role of his brother, the Minister, in overseeing both the Murphy Report and the Ryan Report which had, as part of its brief, the whole area of non sexual physical abuse in the context of religious institutions.

The Family and Media Association, FMA, calls on the Minister to distance himself from the remarks.

At a time when alcohol abuse is becoming ever more widely recognised as an extremely serious problem for our young people, FMA is also concerned about the apparently ambivalent attitude to his own alcohol problem which Mr McSavage displayed on the same broadcast.

While we are concerned for the welfare of Mr McSavage, we are also concerned about the irresponsibility of RTÉ in allowing him (and others) to be seen as a role model.

RTÉ does this when it uses public money to fund programmes like The Savage Eye and give Mr McSavage and others a platform.

The Government now needs to plough some 6 billion Euro into Anglo Irish Bank in the next year, a bill which is, in part, being funded by a 4% cut in social welfare. FMA believes that the 60 million euro of public money that the Government gives annually to RTÉ could be better spent!

On the plus side for RTÉ, Mr O'Connor is to be congratulated for his decisive intervention after Mr McSavage's heroine addict comment. This contrasts with the failure of Gerry Ryan to stop jokes made by Tommy Tiernan about children suffering from Down Syndrome when hosting the Late Late show over a year ago. However the whole episode shows the drastic need for standards in RTÉ’s broadcasts. Minister for Communications Eamonn Ryan must now intervene to ensure taxpayers and license payers money is not used for gratuitously offensive and insensitive broadcasts that belong in the gutter.

Dartz

I regularly kicked the ****e out of my younger brother.... that's what big brothers do...

For Forks Sake

That c*nt is just not funny. end of.

Degsy

For Forks Sake wrote: »

That c*nt is just not funny. end of.

Yet RTE repeatedly allow him onto the television..the whole industry must be rotten form the arse up.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I think you need to move on and ignore him rather that keep posting about him (seems like you get a kick out of it tbh!)

But yes. Ignorant lowest-common-denominator annoying gob****e. Agreed.

chin_grin

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright. So just because of his brothers position he's not allowed to make jokes of it? Tis the Irish way to be sure to be fair, begorrah etc.

<walks away and finds a nice fence>

orourkeda

When RTE feel the need to have low lifes like David McSavage as guests on their shows. Are we really surprised?

What's worse is that people actually tune in to this garbage. We really getwhat we deserve sometimes

Min

How many would want Dave McSavage babysitting their children?

o1s1n

Dartz wrote: »

I regularly kicked the ****e out of my younger brother.... that's what big brothers do...

I wish someone would kick the sh1t out of Dave McSavage tbh.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

Yet RTE repeatedly allow him onto the television..the whole industry must be rotten form the arse up.

His brother´s a government minister. He gets on RTE. Their standard MO.

orourkeda

chin_grin wrote: »

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright. So just because of his brothers position he's not allowed to make jokes of it? Tis the Irish way to be sure to be fair, begorrah etc.

<walks away and finds a nice fence>

Do you feel it's appropriate to belittle child abuse?

Sanjuro

Brendan O'Connor interviewing David McSavage? Two of the biggest cunts in Ireland together in the same room. Think I'd rather slash my own wrists than watch that.

Degsy

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

His brother´s a government minister. He gets on RTE. Their standard MO.

Who is Tommy Tiernan and Gerry Ryan related to then?

Jumpy

In this situation the more it gets focused on the less likely it is to happen again. Joke or no.

For Forks Sake

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

His brother´s a government minister. He gets on RTE. Their standard MO.

His father is also a former FF govt minister. He's Tubridys cousin. Even that tool from the Sindo could join the dots.

Min

For Forks Sake wrote: »

His father is also a former FF govt minister. He's Tubridys cousin. Even that tool from the Sindo could join the dots.

Related to Gerry Ryan...

orourkeda

Jumpy wrote: »

In this situation the more it gets focused on the less likely it is to happen again. Joke or no.

Is David McSavage telling jokes about it really an appropriate way to highlight such an issue

Min

orourkeda wrote: »

Is David McSavage telling jokes about it really an appropriate way to highlight such an issue

It highlights why he isn't in that list of the greatest Irish person ever.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

Who is Tommy Tiernan and Gerry Ryan related to then?

Didn´t say it was everyone, but my point was that nepotisam is rife in RTE and FF

WindSock

As much as I dislike McSavage, I think he made a fair point re: heroin addict babysitter. Don't see how it is belittling the victims more than the perpetraitors.

rovert

I knew he had daddy issues but not sibling issues too.

ScumLord

The FMA sound like a bunch of dicks.

FMA is also concerned about the apparently ambivalent attitude to his own alcohol problem which Mr McSavage displayed on the same broadcast.

Whats that got to do with them? Mind your own feckin business. The whole article had the whine of old biddies about it.

Min

WindSock wrote: »

As much as I dislike McSavage, I think he made a fair point re: heroin addict babysitter. Don't see how it is belittling the victims more than the perpetraitors.

That is silly, are you saying all priests are paedophiles, it is using the victims of child abuse to say all priests are paedophiles and the child would be safer in the hands of a heroin addict.

Degsy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawXmpCoXjM

Just go to 6.10 and you'll see what sort of a dickhead this man is.
He's not trying to be topical or ironic,he's trying to be offensive and unfunny.

fonecrusher1

Seems to be a fierce bit of begrudgery going on here. I think he's hilarious.:D

Tommy Tiernan often goes on a foul mouthed rant about various controversial subjects but he's considered 'hilarious' because he does it in a funny accent.

Min

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Seems to be a fierce bit of begrudgery going on here. I think he's hilarious.:D

Tommy Tiernan often goes on a foul mouthed rant about various controversial subjects but he's considered 'hilarious' because he does it in a funny accent.

Tommy Tiernan is not funny, lets laugh at the people Tiernan has a problem with, lets start with people with Down Syndrome......

WindSock

Min wrote: »

That is silly, are you saying all priests are paedophiles, it is using the victims of child abuse to say all priests are paedophiles and the child would be safer in the hands of a heroin addict.

All priests aren't paedophiles, no. And all heroin addicts may not be safer to have as baby sitters.

For the purpose of the topic of the report though, all the paedophiles happened to be priests rather than heroin addicts.

sbsquarepants

Is that all he said? I used to kick the **** out of my brother when he was a kid?
That's controversial is it?
How is that possibly an insult to anybody?
I like a good aul moral outrage as much as the next man, but come on now, this is nothing!

Jip

Jaysus Degsy, stick with your crusade against Ryan, don't be getting upset by harmless comments on t.v. !

You probably didn't even see the show yourself but are getting worked up over reading about it !

SlabMurphy

o1s1n wrote: »

I wish someone would kick the sh1t out of Dave McSavage tbh.

Think he got a kicking up in Letterkenny. Appearently he said something to some bloke insulting about his wife and got a battering.

Dotsie~tmp

The boards is turning into a whiney PC idiot paradise. Its just not what the internet was meant to be Im telling ya!

PauloConn

I think Dave McSavage is hilarious, but goes the controversial route like Tiernan.
But having him on a "serious" show about these issues seems a little short-sighted from the producers. It'd be like getting Mary Harney to do a comedy set or Mike Tyson to be a political correspondant.
It's a no brainer:D

Min

WindSock wrote: »

All priests aren't paedophiles, no. And all heroin addicts may not be safer to have as baby sitters.

For the purpose of the topic of the report though, all the paedophiles happened to be priests rather than heroin addicts.

What report?

This is the paragragh in question:
Later on, after bringing up the topic of the Catholic Church, Mr McSavage said, "I mean, but if it was a choice between a heroine addict and a priest to baby sit my child...", at which point Mr O'Connor intervened to cut short the topic.

No talk of any report, just a priest in general, even Brendan O'Connor had the sense to see how wrong that generalisation was and cut it short.

fcussen

More attention for this unfunny nepotist ****head.

WindSock

Min wrote: »

What report?

This is the paragragh in question:
Later on, after bringing up the topic of the Catholic Church, Mr McSavage said, "I mean, but if it was a choice between a heroine addict and a priest to baby sit my child...", at which point Mr O'Connor intervened to cut short the topic.

No talk of any report, just a priest in general, even Brendan O'Connor had the sense to see how wrong that generalisation was and cut it short.

I presumed he was referring to the scandals of the Murphy report.

podgemonster

Sure tis only a bit of craic....

Was at a tommy tiernan gig and he ripped into a girl on the front row in a wheelchair, she was falling out of her chair laughing, after a few gasps everyone else joined too!

Think people need to relax McSavage was just doing what he does best, taking the p1ss.

And personnally i prefer his shows to Katherine Lynch, Jason Byrne and that Republic of telly tripe.

Aidric

I think the real issue here is Brendan O Connor. A dirty stain on the fabric of Irish media. At least McSavage contributed The Savage Eye which was funny.

Sir Oxman

Never heard of this FMA lot before - website is awful but in a pdf doc its states it was set up after a 'call' from the pope at the time (jp2)

As for McSavage - haven't watched his show, have seen him on 'Ballsy' O Connors piece of crap Saturday and previously once on a LLS and I didn't think he was funny at all - however I'm not outraged at his joke, just appalled at the lack of laughs he generated from me.
Poor excuse for a comedian.

Min

podgemonster wrote: »

Sure tis only a bit of craic....

Was at a tommy tiernan gig and he ripped into a girl on the front row in a wheelchair, she was falling out of her chair laughing, after a few gasps everyone else joined too!

Think people need to relax McSavage was just doing what he does best, taking the p1ss.

And personnally i prefer his shows to Katherine Lynch, Jason Byrne and that Republic of telly tripe.

The question is would Tommy Tiernan find it funny if he was in a wheelchair for life?
Would Dave McSavage find it funny if someone made him out to be sexually abusing children?

Sir Oxman

Min wrote: »

The question is would Tommy Tiernan find it funny if he was in a wheelchair for life?
Would Dave McSavage find it funny if someone made him out to be sexually abusing children?

All subjects are available for comedy, IMO.
Fcek that censorship lark.

filthymcnasty

I watched the interview on the O'Connor show the other night and I wouldn't take any offence to any of the comments. I think they are being taken out of context somewhat.
But the whole interview was a complete cringe-fest- McSavage came across as a total freak.

O'Connor came across as the obnoxious cnut that he : making light of his alcoholism "so your an alcoholic, yeah?" - cant believe the report lauds him.
PS whats the fcuk is the FMA?

fonecrusher1

Savage eye is the funniest thing ive seen on TV in a few years & that includes british telly.

HTF did Katherine Lynch get on tv?

Lollipops23

Much as I despise McSavage and don't think he's remotely funny, I didn't find the quotes offensive. The bit about beating the crap out of his bro?Sure I'm a girl and my brothers would still knock lumps out of me given half the chance:p

Think we may be in danger of becoming over sensitive and losing focus of the real problem here (ie the church).

Delirium

Just watched the segment on the rte player. Thought mcSavage was funny in parts, which surprised me based on the hatred he receives from a lot of people on here.

filthymcnasty wrote: »

PS whats the fcuk is the FMA?

The Family and Media Association.

Min

gambiaman wrote: »

All subjects are available for comedy, IMO.
Fcek that censorship lark.

ok, find me comedy in things like the Irish famine, people dying in concentration camps, getting terminal cancer, people being abused....

Sir Oxman

Min wrote: »

ok, find me comedy in things like the Irish famine, people dying in concentration camps, getting terminal cancer, people being abused....

Find them yourself, though that may be not too wise given you more than likely will not find them amusing.

I like dark humour, darker the better - not everyone likes Terry & June humour

Nighty Night, Brass Eye etc man here.

podgemonster

Min wrote: »

The question is would Tommy Tiernan find it funny if he was in a wheelchair for life?
Would Dave McSavage find it funny if someone made him out to be sexually abusing children?

Well thats aimed at a specific person, tho some people might take pleasure in the fact that they are at the butt of a joke for a change.

There have and will always been racist, sexist, controversial jokes about certain groups of people e.g. priest, blacks, women, midgets. These groups may not find it funny (probably the opposite) but alot of people will find them hilarious.

starbelgrade

Min wrote: »

ok, find me comedy in things like the Irish famine, people dying in concentration camps, getting terminal cancer, people being abused....

If you are offended by any of the Potato famine jokes, feel free to call the complaints line on 0800 1-potato 2-potato 3-potato 4.

filthymcnasty

koth wrote: »

The Family and Media Association.

thanks.

sounds like a another quango that should be nuked back to the Stone Age.
I really dont see what there is to be getting worked up about here.

bazmaiden

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

HTF did Katherine Lynch get on tv?

Or maeve Higgins! WTF was that show all about

fcussen

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Much as I despise McSavage and don't think he's remotely funny, I didn't find the quotes offensive. The bit about beating the crap out of his bro?Sure I'm a girl and my brothers would still knock lumps out of me given half the chance:p

Think we may be in danger of becoming over sensitive and losing focus of the real problem here (ie the church that talentless brownnose has his own f*cking talk show).

fixed it for you