Dave McSavage..making a tool of himself as usual.

neil_18_

+



Spot the difference...I can't

Agricola

McSavage himself goes abit overboard. He should learn to keep alid on his "whacky" persona when being interviewed. That kind of stuff, coming from an Irishman in Ireland just doesnt work.

Other than that, his tv show was a major cut above all of the other attempts at comedy by RTE. He has an ability to laugh at himself and is generally a mad bastard in the truest sense of the phrase. Some of the stuff on the Savage Eye was actually laugh out loud quality.

He justs needs to learn when to switch off in interviews and answer at least two questions normally without trying to make the audience uncomfortable.

Oafley Jones

WindSock wrote: »

Satire is fine. Taking the piss out of and ridiculing people walking past minding their own business isn't. It's low and petty.

That's precisely what he was doing when the young fella turned on him in Cork. Absolutely left McSavage with no response, you'd think being a "comedian" he'd be able to take it but he was destroyed.

Degsy

A friend of mine started to chat to him during a gig in vicar st(he wasnt playing)..the obnoxious twat walked-off mid sentence..a complete tosser.

Sir Oxman

tech77 wrote: »

"Brass eye man here".
LOL.

Chris Morris is great, don't get me wrong, but why do people reflexively quote Brass Eye like that- like it's flawless and sacred.

Brass Eye, as great as the satire is, is not flawless.
In the controversial child abuse hysteria satire it satirizes the unhelpful public hysteria/hypocritical redtops/moronic self-serving celebrities (and the perpetrators themselves IIRC) beautifully but in other parts if you watch it, it gets confused as to what exactly its poking fun at- the victims or the perpetrators/media hysteria. It does actually conflate the two.

So:
Beautiful, brilliant satire in parts (the Phil Collins noncesense stuff is inspired for example), but flawed nonetheless and not necessarily the funniest thing ever because of that.

Haha, 'Brass Eye man' sounds a bit w*nky alright;)

Erm, I never said it was the funniest thing ever but gave it as an example to Min.

fonecrusher1

Degsy wrote: »

A friend of mine started to chat to him during a gig in vicar st(he wasnt playing)..the obnoxious twat walked-off mid sentence..a complete tosser.

The monster. Should be locked up.

Sir Oxman

tech77 wrote: »

FWIW IMO the Dave McSavage thing is not in any way comparable to Chris Morris or Brass Eye.

They are both risque humour- that's where the similarities end.

Just that Brass Eye was actually good satire.

Compare that to the Dave McSavage thing which huffed and puffed a lot, with not much of great comedic merit being produced.

Having said all that, Brass Eye, although an example of how satire should be done, was also a bit unfocussed and flawed at times.
It's not perfect, that's all.

I'll have to take a look at 'The Savage Eye'

RTE in not-absolutely-****e-comedy-attempt shockah.

Dotsie~tmp

A friend of mine showed him her baby...and he ate it! ..acomplete tosser.

Ash.J.Williams

To be honest i didn't like mcsavage until he made the savage eye, now i will give him a chance. However what I did find disgusting was when he was told to calm down by Brendan o'Connor when he spoke of the priest babysitter. Why? Because it looked like he was set up. The savage eye mainly satirized the church and the government, everytime Dmc is on tv he slags off the church, he slags off the church in interviews, in his live shows and on his street shows,......so why the f** did they ask him on the SNS if they were going to shut him up like that?? He should have broken o'connors jaw after that, who the hell did he think he was at that moment, protector of those who watch tv after 10.30pm?? it's hacky Mchack Brendan o'connor not, Mary Whitehouse.

Nodin

gambiaman wrote: »

I'll have to take a look at 'The Savage Eye'

RTE in not-absolutely-****e-comedy-attempt shockah.

Indeed. I was pleasantly suprised. His take on Joe Duffy is class.

Dudess

So... Who's this David McSavage guy?

Paparazzo

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Much as I despise McSavage and don't think he's remotely funny, I didn't find the quotes offensive. The bit about beating the crap out of his bro?Sure I'm a girl and my brothers would still knock lumps out of me given half the chance:p

Think we may be in danger of becoming over sensitive and losing focus of the real problem here (ie the church).

Basically everyone here hates McSavage and and they're just using this to have a go at him.

Sir Oxman

Nodin wrote: »

Indeed. I was pleasantly suprised. His take on Joe Duffy is class.

Nice one - I'll admit I wasn't bothered watching when it was on as I'd seen yer man on a few talkshows and he didn't do it for me and well, it's RTE etc

Nodin

Dudess wrote: »

So... Who's this David McSavage guy?

Just watch it from the start till 5.40 or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8CCCTuqz8

Nodin

gambiaman wrote: »

Nice one - I'll admit I wasn't bothered watching when it was on as I'd seen yer man on a few talkshows and he didn't do it for me and well, it's RTE etc

Actually what I said in the link applies there. If you get to 5.40 or 6.00 minutes in and don't think thats funny, then he's not for you. All parts of that episode are there if you're amused.

Degsy

Nodin wrote: »

Actually what I said in the link applies there. If you get to 5.40 or 6.00 minutes in and don't think thats funny, then he's not for you

If you get to 1.00 or 2.00 minutes and not want to cave his head in with a wheelbrace then you can call yourself a fan.

stovelid

Making a tool of himself incorrectly implies that there are periods of his life during which he is not a tool. I'd say he's even annoying in his sleep.

IrishTonyO

Had never seen Dave McSavage before Saturday night. Did not find anything he said offensive, just found it all completely humourless. Looked like he was on day release from Grange Gorman. Would reckon his family are 'proud'

viclemronny

For Forks Sake wrote: »

That c*nt is just not funny. end of.

See, this is what confuses me about DMC. There seems to be a fairly significant negative sentiment against him here on boards. I haven't encountered anyone in the real world (shudder) who finds him funny either.

But he got his show on RTÉ and seems to make enough from his 'comedy' to earn a living. Some people somewhere must be fans of his. But I can't seem to find them anywhere. Maybe it's similar to being unable to find anyone who voted FF in the last election.

On topic:

While I would consider myself very pro free speech, this is just taking the mick. There are many people across the country who have been effected by this and a little decorum and sensitivity wouldn't go astray.

On a side note, it's a shame whoever was presenting didn't just ask him how it feels to know that your family don't want you anywhere near them anymore.

jiltloop

The Savage eye I thought was quite funny, bit hit and miss but really funny in parts. He does a great Joe Duffy but his Mary Robinson impression is brilliant.
I think people need to cop on a bit and stop being so PC, his comments weren't funny but they certainly weren't in any way offensive. If you start to get offended so easily maybe you should lock yourself up in a media proof room so no ones bad little words can cause you distress.

dolliemix

jiltloop wrote: »

The Savage eye I thought was quite funny, bit hit and miss but really funny in parts. He does a great Joe Duffy but his Mary Robinson impression is brilliant.
I think people need to cop on a bit and stop being so PC, his comments weren't funny but they certainly weren't in any way offensive. If you start to get offended so easily maybe you should lock yourself up in a media proof room so no ones bad little words can cause you distress.

Don't forget Nick in the cage!

And I loved the Oral tradition in Irreland

The various politicians were good as well

Santa Claus

Degsy wrote: »

Who is Tommy Tiernan and Gerry Ryan related to then?

Tommy Tiernan USED to be funny...something McSavage has never achieved and is never likely to.

Gerry Ryan went to school with and was best mates with Charlie Haugheys sons and Charlie got him the job in 2FM.

Funny also how McSavage got his show just when his cousin Tubbs got the late late......RTE is rife with nepothism to be honest !

Ash.J.Williams

Dudess wrote: »

So... Who's this David McSavage guy?

This guy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpiYJ3ePRnI&feature=related
the glamour!!

Ash.J.Williams

Santa Claus wrote: »

Tommy Tiernan USED to be funny...something McSavage has never achieved and is never likely to.

Gerry Ryan went to school with and was best mates with Charlie Haugheys sons and Charlie got him the job in 2FM.

Funny also how McSavage got his show just when his cousin Tubbs got the late late......RTE is rife with nepothism to be honest !

too easy

cleremy jarkson

Santa Claus wrote: »

Gerry Ryan went to school with and was best mates with Charlie Haugheys sons and Charlie got him the job in 2FM.

Is this true? It's very believable regardless!

cleremy jarkson

http://www.eoinbutler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gerry-ryan1.jpg

This guy sailed through life by virtue of knowing the right people, just look at him. He just doesn't give a fúck about you, me or anybody else.

profitius

Folks I've good news, I've found thousands of sense of humours wondering around looking for their owners. So come and collect yours!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8LSV-j2g

_Whimsical_

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

Is this true? It's very believable regardless!

Is it true that Gerry and Haugheys son were best friends. Last time I heard him he was on one call empathising with some one who'd lost her job telling her about his impoverished upbringing .Twenty mins later was regailing the nation with tales of how he spent nearly every weekend staying over with the Haugheys at their mansion in Kinsealy as a child. About how they'd send the big posh car for him and his brother on Friday evenings and drop them off on Sundays.

I don't know if there's been any suggestion that he got the RTE job because of his connections there but lets face it, it didnt hurt his chances! It definitely wasn't talent that landed good old "G Ryan" in a career in media.

starbelgrade

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

This guy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpiYJ3ePRnI&feature=related
the glamour!!

Amazing what passes for humour these days.

_Whimsical_

I thought the interview was highly entertaining, particularly for anyone who does not appreciate the comedic stylings of McSavage. He completely bombed on the show. The panic on his face at the end as he struggled to attempt to recast himself in a less insensitive, idiotic light was priceless. More so though was the fact that Brendan O Connor thought it was a good idea to quieten him down by addressing this in a sincere way by saying something to the effect of "look I know you're worried because you don't think you were funny tonight but it's ok. You were funny err yes very funny.Don't worry".

It was real car crash TV.

super_furry

I think people are confusing the issue between being offended by what he said and being horrified that such a deeply unfunny man is allowed to parade around on national television masquarading as a comedian.

For Forks Sake

super_furry wrote: »

being horrified that such a deeply unfunny man is allowed to parade around on national television masquarading as a comedian.

This I agree with, i couldn't give a flying fcuk what sort of guff he comes out with

Degsy

For Forks Sake wrote: »

This I agree with, i couldn't give a flying fcuk what sort of guff he comes out with

But WHY IS HE ON THE TELLY???

For Forks Sake

Degsy wrote: »

But WHY IS HE ON THE TELLY???

,

Now that is one of Lifes Great Mysteries.

See also;
-Higgins, Maeve
-Byrne, Jason
-Lynch, Katherine

Ash.J.Williams

Degsy wrote: »

But WHY IS HE ON THE TELLY???

I guess becuase his tv show was critically acclaimed? F** all on RTE is critically acclaimed so when something does get the acclaim i guess it goes on tv?

Degsy

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I guess becuase his tv show was critically acclaimed? F** all on RTE is critically acclaimed so when something does get the acclaim i guess it goes on tv?

"Critically acclaimed"??
By whom exactly?Anybody with a shred oif intelligence thinks his show's a load of shiite and he's a cretin.
That doesnt answer the question though as he was regularly trotted out on telly long before he had his own show.
Who makes these decisions?It cant be the viewers or Gerry Ryan would never do a days television again.

Degsy

For Forks Sake wrote: »

,

Now that is one of Lifes Great Mysteries.

See also;
-Higgins, Maeve
-Byrne, Jason
-Lynch, Katherine

`Also;
-Ryan,Gerry
-Seoige,Crookedface
etc

Nodin

Another extract from the on going reality show 'Redirected Anger' -

Degsy wrote: »

"Critically acclaimed"??
By whom exactly?Anybody with a shred oif intelligence thinks his show's a load of shiite and he's a cretin.

Not that you'd generalise or anything.

Degsy

Nodin wrote: »

Another extract from the on going reality show 'Redirected Anger' -



Not that you'd generalise or anything.

Link?

Nodin

Degsy wrote: »

Link?

Two for you....

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65040322&postcount=137

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65023042&postcount=1

Degsy

Nodin wrote: »

Two for you....

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65040322&postcount=137

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65023042&postcount=1

They prove what exactly?

Your going off topic again.

Nodin

Degsy wrote: »

They prove what exactly?

Generalisations and re-directed anger.

Ash.J.Williams

Degsy wrote: »

"Critically acclaimed"??
By whom exactly?Anybody with a shred oif intelligence thinks his show's a load of shiite and he's a cretin.
That doesnt answer the question though as he was regularly trotted out on telly long before he had his own show.
Who makes these decisions?It cant be the viewers or Gerry Ryan would never do a days television again.

From my own experience i know lots of people who enjoyed the savage eye, in fact many belly laughs were had in my own house at the show, and even recorded it and watched it again....granted not every sketch worked but most are hilarious. You say we haven't a shred of intelligence? I can't say that about you as my limited intelligence is sufficient enough to know that I could not possibly know that.
This year I think RTE have made some great progress. I would be the first to give out if they were going backwards like they were when they had money, but this past year i think they have done well.

Agricola

chilly wrote: »

I thought the interview was highly entertaining, particularly for anyone who does not appreciate the comedic stylings of McSavage. He completely bombed on the show. The panic on his face at the end as he struggled to attempt to recast himself in a less insensitive, idiotic light was priceless. More so though was the fact that Brendan O Connor thought it was a good idea to quieten him down by addressing this in a sincere way by saying something to the effect of "look I know you're worried because you don't think you were funny tonight but it's ok. You were funny err yes very funny.Don't worry".

It was real car crash TV.

Yeah but part of what makes it car crash tv is the reaction of the presenter and the audience to the guest. If it hadnt been a typical conservative Irish chatshow audience and if it hadnt been brendan o connor tryin to defuse what he thought was a situation that was gettin too controversial for primetime RTE, then McSavage would probably have got on better. What did he do except make a joke about catholic priests? Big fúckin wow.
Comedians like McSavage are usually for a niche audience in most countries, especially in Ireland. We dont do touchy subjects like making jokes about priests very well.

mike65

Degsy....making a tool of himself as usual

sweetyt

It is conservitism and the 'lets turn a blind eye to reality' mentality that allowed the priests who raped and assaulted children to get away with it for so bloody long.

From viewing the show McSavage was CLEARLY not mocking the victims of this awful abuse, but mocking THE PRIESTS who commited these crimes. And why the hell not? Someone tell me?? Why shouldn't we all stand up and name the men who commited these CRIMES as the preverts, criminals and life takers that they are?!?! Why does "conservative" Ireland feel the need to not speak out in public? I for one would NOT let paedophile babysit my child- who would? So what's wrong with that comment- to reiterate, it offends the accused priests, not the victims.

I, like many Irish people, feel anger towards the priests who abused children and ngry towards the government for indemnifying the church and not bringing these men to justice like regular criminals.

If we as a nation hadn't have been so afraid to speak out and "offend" maybe we could have prevented so many of the people who suffered life altering abuse.

dolliemix

sweetyt wrote: »

It is conservitism and the 'lets turn a blind eye to reality' mentality that allowed the priests who raped and assaulted children to get away with it for so bloody long.

From viewing the show McSavage was CLEARLY not mocking the victims of this awful abuse, but mocking THE PRIESTS who commited these crimes. And why the hell not? Someone tell me?? Why shouldn't we all stand up and name the men who commited these CRIMES as the preverts, criminals and life takers that they are?!?! Why does "conservative" Ireland feel the need to not speak out in public? I for one would NOT let paedophile babysit my child- who would? So what's wrong with that comment- to reiterate, it offends the accused priests, not the victims.

I, like many Irish people, feel anger towards the priests who abused children and ngry towards the government for indemnifying the church and not bringing these men to justice like regular criminals.

If we as a nation hadn't have been so afraid to speak out and "offend" maybe we could have prevented so many of the people who suffered life altering abuse.

While I don't agree with Degsy's opinion either....this post is just wrong.

He has an opinion and a certain taste in humour, that's all. We don't have to all find the same things funny all of the time.

He speaks out and expresses his views openly. What does that have to do with paedophilia?

This country has gone crazy!

Mc Savage makes a crap joke and people suggest he should be shot etc
Degsy is offended by his jokes and doesn't find him funny and you suggest that this opinion is why paedophiles got away with abuse! :eek:

Relax people!

pikachucheeks

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

This year I think RTE have made some great progress. I would be the first to give out if they were going backwards like they were when they had money, but this past year i think they have done well.

Out of interest, can I ask what "progess" you think they've made?

In my opinion, RTE has gone down this year. I think this is largely due to them focusing on a couple of big stars and seemingly rehashing 'done' shows that aren't really fresh or interesting anymore. I would question a couple of their programming choices, considering that it's us, the public, who are paying the wages and the production costs of RTE's staff and schedule.

However, in saying that, I can accept that, with anything, it's down to personal opinion - if there's a large enough proportion of the Irish public watching and enjoying programmes like "The Savage Eye", it makes sense for RTE to keep them, but personally, it wouldn't be something I'd have much interest in watching again.

sweetyt

dolliemix wrote: »

While I don't agree with Degsy's opinion either....this post is just wrong.

He has an opinion and a certain taste in humour, that's all. We don't have to all find the same things funny all of the time...
QUOTE]

Dollymix you have misunderstood me entirely. My anger has nothing got to do with the taste of a joke. Fact is McSavage's statement offended peadophile priests, not the victims of abuse- regardless of what taste it was delivered in. My anger is at fools like Degsy posting statements such as "The Minister should distance himself from his brothers joke" and "The Minister for Comm. must intervene"
I , as I'm sure many victims of clerical abuse, would be proud to have a Minister who publicly called such priests the scum of the earth that they are. Not apologied on behalf of someone who did.

It angers me that fools like Degsy congradulate gob****e OConnor for supressing anyone who tries to offend paedophiles. Not only should they be offended, they should hung, drawn and quatered, or at the very least they should be brought to justice by serving life in prison.

It angers me that Degsy and people like him show more outrage at someone offending a collection of perverts than at a system (the government) that indemnifies the church.

This nation has its priorities backwards!! We need to end conservatism and be proud to speak out about rapist priests (or any criminals) who destroy one or hundreds of lifes. If we weren't so afraid of "offending" and being correct, maybe more people would have spoken up and pointed the finger at these perverts decades ago!

Degsy

sweetyt wrote: »

dolliemix wrote: »

While I don't agree with Degsy's opinion either....this post is just wrong.

He has an opinion and a certain taste in humour, that's all. We don't have to all find the same things funny all of the time...
QUOTE]

Dollymix you have misunderstood me entirely. My anger has nothing got to do with the taste of a joke. Fact is McSavage's statement offended peadophile priests, not the victims of abuse- regardless of what taste it was delivered in. My anger is at fools like Degsy posting statements such as "The Minister should distance himself from his brothers joke" and "The Minister for Comm. must intervene"
I , as I'm sure many victims of clerical abuse, would be proud to have a Minister who publicly called such priests the scum of the earth that they are. Not apologied on behalf of someone who did.

It angers me that fools like Degsy congradulate gob****e OConnor for supressing anyone who tries to offend paedophiles. Not only should they be offended, they should hung, drawn and quatered, or at the very least they should be brought to justice by serving life in prison.

It angers me that Degsy and people like him show more outrage at someone offending a collection of perverts than at a system (the government) that indemnifies the church.

This nation has its priorities backwards!! We need to end conservatism and be proud to speak out about rapist priests (or any criminals) who destroy one or hundreds of lifes. If we weren't so afraid of "offending" and being correct, maybe more people would have spoken up and pointed the finger at these perverts decades ago!

Eh..i think you need to sit down and loosen your shirt collar a bit.

My only contention is that McSavage isnt funny regardless of the subject matter.

I posted that link because it described the awkwardness of the interviewer and the fact that he cut mcsavage off after he died on his arse.

I'm not here to debate peadophiles or rapists or priests or whatever but to point out that dave Mcsavage is a fraud who has persuaded RTE he's a "comedian" despite evidence to the contrary.

The thread is called "Dave McSavage making atool out of himself as usual" NOT "Rapists,blah blah peados..blah blah"