what are your thoughts on Roy Keane

kryogen

i admired the connection he made, how clean was that??

no hang on, i better use this one looks better

starbelgrade

m@cc@ wrote: »

No one here has said anything to the contrary.

Am I just arguing with myself again? Hate that. I'm off to bed.

kryogen

me too

best of luck with the hard on starbelgrade

Jazzy

ppl defending keane over the haaland thing?


lol

m@cc@

Jazzy wrote: »

ppl defending keane over the haaland thing?


lol

No. And while we're at it, no text talk, thanks.

super_furry

So you guys really went there huh? Thought it'd die out after a couple of pages but we're up to 11 of what I'm sure is the same ****e that's been spouted for a decade on both sides. And what stage do people just let it lie?

m@cc@ wrote: »

No. And while we're at, no text talk, thanks.

That would be at 'it'. Matccat.

The Muppet

Legend.

Jazzy

m@cc@ wrote: »

No. And while we're at, no text talk, thanks.

sure thing mcc

The Muppet

Jazzy wrote: »

sure thing [EMAIL="m@cc@"]mcc[/EMAIL]

That's Internet speak, a completely different thing.:)

L'prof

kryogen wrote: »

Just to clarify something, it has popped up again in starbelgrades video title

KEANE DID NOT END HAALANDS CAREER!

sorry for shouting, i know its late

Really? You do realise that because one leg was injured that it puts more stress on the other one until it's fully recovered? I'm not saying that's definitely the case but, it's a bit naive to completely rule it out!

As for the Wright tackle, I'd like to see it again. I don't remember it too clearly and I'm betting, neither do a lot of other people. Schmeichel walked away from that one though, right?

As for Keane not meaning to hurt Haaland as much as he did??? I'd be very surprised!

Frisbee

recylingbin wrote: »

Hey, I was wearing a suit while watching the CL final too.
Can I have a cl medal?

No I can't. And neither can he.

recylingbin wrote: »

No, no he doesn't.

These posts make me lol.

He has a CL medal. He played in every game except the final, infact he basically single handedly beat Juve.

Just because he didn't play in the final doesn't mean he didn't win a European Cup.

KittyeeTrix

adrian280582 wrote: »

you asked me question I answered.

If I knew you were going be that childish I would not have bothered.

I'm childish!!!
Childish is the attitude that says "Well, I wasn't the only one who did it":mad:
I should know, I have 4 kids who try that line with me all the time and do you know how I respond.......

I ask them if all their friends jumped off a bridge would they do that too:rolleyes:
That's how I react to childish statements from my kids at least,
With you, I'm not quite sure how to proceed so I will respectfully bow out now as I'm not one for personal insults or mud slinging or any of that crack!!! And to be honest, I can't see me doing much else if I stay involved so
BYE

The_Kew_Tour

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

I'm childish!!!
Childish is the attitude that says "Well, I wasn't the only one who did it":mad:
I should know, I have 4 kids who try that line with me all the time and do you know how I respond.......

I ask them if all their friends jumped off a bridge would they do that too:rolleyes:
That's how I react to childish statements from my kids at least,
With you, I'm not quite sure how to proceed so I will respectfully bow out now as I'm not one for personal insults or mud slinging or any of that crack!!! And to be honest, I can't see me doing much else if I stay involved so
BYE

For the love of God.

recylingbin

Frisbee wrote: »

These posts make me lol.

He has a CL medal. He played in every game except the final, infact he basically single handedly beat Juve.

Just because he didn't play in the final doesn't mean he didn't win a European Cup.

He doesn't have one.
He received one but gave it to Brian Kidd who had recently left the club as he felt he, correctly, didn't deserve it. The first and last honourable thing he has ever done.

edit: and yes, if you don't play in the final, you didn't win it.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

He doesn't have one.
He received one but gave it to Brian Kidd who had recently left the club as he felt he, correctly, didn't deserve it. The first and last honourable thing he has ever done.

edit: and yes, if you don't play in the final, you didn't win it.

lol

aidan24326

jasonorr wrote: »

As for Keane not meaning to hurt Haaland as much as he did??? I'd be very surprised!

I'm amazed people are still talking about this. Keane admitted he went out to hurt Haaland.

recylingbin wrote: »

He doesn't have one.
He received one but gave it to Brian Kidd who had recently left the club as he felt he, correctly, didn't deserve it. The first and last honourable thing he has ever done.

edit: and yes, if you don't play in the final, you didn't win it.

So his excellent performances in helping them get to the final count for nothing then? Would they have beaten Juve in Turin that night without him? I doubt it.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

He doesn't have one.
He received one but gave it to Brian Kidd who had recently left the club as he felt he, correctly, didn't deserve it. The first and last honourable thing he has ever done.

edit: and yes, if you don't play in the final, you didn't win it.

So let me get this straight, your saying that Brian Kidd who left the club after the group stages deserves a medal over a guy who played all the games till the final?

patmac

My thoughts on Roy Keane.
Pluses:
Great underrated player.
Irish.
Committed tackler.
Man of principle.

Minuses:

Poor overated manager.
From Cork.
Nasty streak.
Argumentative.

Can I go now please?

L'prof

aidan24326 wrote: »

I'm amazed people are still talking about this. Keane admitted he went out to hurt Haaland.

Just responding to a previous comment, nothing amazing about it!

The_Kew_Tour

patmac wrote: »

My thoughts on Roy Keane.
Pluses:
Great underrated player.
Irish.
Committed tackler.
Man of principle.

Minuses:

Poor overated manager.
From Cork.
Nasty streak.
Argumentative.

Can I go now please?

Hey whats wrong with Cork?:mad:

Otherwise I think that sums up Keane perfectly. Could not agree more.

recylingbin

adrian280582 wrote: »

So let me get this straight, your saying that Brian Kidd who left the club after the group stages deserves a medal over a guy who played all the games till the final?

Am I?
Where am I saying that?

So his excellent performances in helping them get to the final count for nothing then? Would they have beaten Juve in Turin that night without him? I doubt it.

I remember one good performance against Juve. His efforts didn't count for nothing. They won the match.
Would Juve have won that night if Red Rum was playing for them? I dunno, let's fantasize.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

Am I?
Where am I saying that?


I remember one good performance against Juve. His efforts didn't count for nothing. They won the match.
Would Juve have won that night if Red Rum was playing for them? I dunno, let's fantasize.

You said he correctly gave his medal away to Brian kidd what else did you mean?

recylingbin

adrian280582 wrote: »

You said he correctly gave his medal away to Brian kidd what else did you mean?

I said he correctly felt he didn't deserve it. He didn't win the european cup, he didn't deserve a medal.

Frisbee

recylingbin wrote: »

He doesn't have one.
He received one but gave it to Brian Kidd who had recently left the club as he felt he, correctly, didn't deserve it. The first and last honourable thing he has ever done.

edit: and yes, if you don't play in the final, you didn't win it.

Wow

So if Messi/Villa/Rooney scores 12 goals en route to the World Cup final but then gets injured on the eve of the final and can't play, but their team still win, then they don't deserve to have won it?

recylingbin

Frisbee wrote: »

Wow

So if Messi/Villa/Rooney scores 12 goals en route to the World Cup final but then gets injured on the eve of the final and can't play, but their team still win, then they don't deserve to have won it?

deserve has nothing to do with it.
they didn't win it.

Look, this isn't the scottish premier league where you can play 2 mins of 14 games and get your medal, this is real football.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

I said he correctly felt he didn't deserve it. He didn't win the european cup, he didn't deserve a medal.

Well he still won a medal. Just cause he gave it away he still won it first, not Brian Kidd.

recylingbin

adrian280582 wrote: »

Well he still won a medal. Just cause he gave it away he still won it first, not Brian Kidd.

You're getting confused, I never said he didn't win a medal. I said he hasn't got one. I originally said he didn't win the european cup.
Both of my statements of fact are correct.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

deserve has nothing to do with it.
they didn't win it.

Look, this isn't the scottish premier league where you can play 2 mins of 14 games and get your medal, this is real football.

I really have no idea where your going with this.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

You're getting confused, I never said he didn't win a medal. I said he hasn't got one. I originally said he didn't win the european cup.
Both of my statements of fact are correct.

Well who did win European cup then? Ole Gunnar Solskjaer got winning goal is he the only fella that deserved a medal then or what?

Frisbee

recylingbin wrote: »

You're getting confused, I never said he didn't win a medal. I said he hasn't got one. I originally said he didn't win the european cup.
Both of my statements of fact are correct.

By your logic then if someone were to miss a group game or the first leg of a quarter final tie then they didn't win a European Cup as they weren't involved in every stage of the process?

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

Hey, I was wearing a suit while watching the CL final too.
Can I have a cl medal?

No I can't. And neither can he.

hmmm going back on earlier post you said the following above. Your last senetence seems to not follow up on your last few comments does it?

recylingbin

Frisbee wrote: »

By your logic then if someone were to miss a group game or the first leg of a quarter final tie then they didn't win a European Cup as they weren't involved in every stage of the process?

No, by my logic, if you didn't play in the final, then you didn't win the final which is the stage at which trophies and the word winners is diished out.

ziggy

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Frisbee

recylingbin wrote: »

No, by my logic, if you didn't play in the final, then you didn't win the final which is the stage at which trophies and the word winners is diished out.

Well you can't reach the final without playing in the previous rounds. So they are as important.

The_Kew_Tour

recylingbin wrote: »

No, by my logic, if you didn't play in the final, then you didn't win the final which is the stage at which trophies and the word winners is diished out.

Your entitled to your opinion, but personally I think that is load of bull crap

recylingbin

Frisbee wrote: »

Well you can't reach the final without playing in the previous rounds. So they are as important.

1)True.
and 2) no, they're not.

A final is more important by its very definition.

patmac

recylingbin wrote: »

No, by my logic, if you didn't play in the final, then you didn't win the final which is the stage at which trophies and the word winners is diished out.

Your argument should be sent to the Recylingbin/recyclingbin tbh.

recylingbin

patmac wrote: »

Your argument should be sent to the Recylingbin/recyclingbin tbh.

Bwahahahahahahahaha
Did you come up with that yourself.


For all the good and bad things that Keane has done in his career, the thing that stands head and shoulders above the rest is that he walked out on his country to sell a book.
That says it all about his principles.

jaykay74

recylingbin wrote: »

For all the good and bad things that Keane has done in his career, the thing that stands head and shoulders above the rest is that he walked out on his country to sell a book.
That says it all about his principles.

Plenty of people hate him for walking out. Never heard anyone give that as a reason though

To sell his book, yes that makes perfect sense, good man

I don't think I can take anything you say seriously after that

recylingbin

jaykay74 wrote: »

Plenty of people hate him for walking out. Never heard anyone give that as a reason though

To sell his book, yes that makes perfect sense, good man

I don't think I can take anything you say seriously after that

I don't care what you take seriously tbh.

The Muppet

recylingbin wrote: »

Bwahahahahahahahaha
Did you come up with that yourself.


For all the good and bad things that Keane has done in his career, the thing that stands head and shoulders above the rest is that he walked out on his country to sell a book.
That says it all about his principles.

Bwahahahahahahahaha
Did you come up with that yourself.

recylingbin

recylingbin wrote: »

the thing that stands head and shoulders above the rest is that he walked out on his country to sell a book.

Could he not have sold it on ebay?

killwill

recylingbin wrote: »

1)True.
and 2) no, they're not.

A final is more important by its very definition.

I don't believe the definition of final is more important.

ShamoBuc

Soccer thread or English Grammar thread?

starbelgrade

Classic Keano Rants

To Mick McCarthy

"Mick, you're a liar … you're a f*cking w*nker. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a f*cking w*nker and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your b*llocks."


About Rio Ferdinand, Recorded for MUTV (but never aired)

"Just because you are paid £120,000-a-week and play well for 20 minutes against Tottenham, you think you are a superstar. The younger players have been let down by some of the more experienced players. They are just not leading. There is a shortage of characters in this team. It seems to be in this club that you have to play badly to be rewarded. Maybe that is what I should do when I come back. Play badly."


About Alfie Haaland, from his biography

"I'd waited long enough. I f*cking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c*nt. And don't ever stand over me again sneering about fake injuries. And tell your pal [David] Wetherall there's some for him as well. I didn't wait for Mr Elleray to show the red card. I turned and walked to the dressing room."

On the Prawn Sandwich Brigade

"Sometimes you wonder, do they understand the game of football? We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on. At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans. But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch. I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell 'football', never mind understand it."

On Modern Day Players & their WAGS


“I think it’s weak. You see it with a couple of big players now. Clearly their wives and girlfriends are running their lives and that’s a bad sign.”

“Why is there such a big attraction with London? It would be different if it was Chelsea, Arsenal or maybe Tottenham, but when they go to a smaller club just because it’s in London, then it’s clearly because of the shops.”

niallo27

starbelgrade wrote: »

Classic Keano Rants

To Mick McCarthy

"Mick, you're a liar … you're a f*cking w*nker. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a f*cking w*nker and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your b*llocks."


About Rio Ferdinand, Recorded for MUTV (but never aired)

"Just because you are paid £120,000-a-week and play well for 20 minutes against Tottenham, you think you are a superstar. The younger players have been let down by some of the more experienced players. They are just not leading. There is a shortage of characters in this team. It seems to be in this club that you have to play badly to be rewarded. Maybe that is what I should do when I come back. Play badly."


About Alfie Haaland, from his biography

"I'd waited long enough. I f*cking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c*nt. And don't ever stand over me again sneering about fake injuries. And tell your pal [David] Wetherall there's some for him as well. I didn't wait for Mr Elleray to show the red card. I turned and walked to the dressing room."

On the Prawn Sandwich Brigade

"Sometimes you wonder, do they understand the game of football? We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on. At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans. But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch. I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell 'football', never mind understand it."

On Modern Day Players & their WAGS


“I think it’s weak. You see it with a couple of big players now. Clearly their wives and girlfriends are running their lives and that’s a bad sign.”

“Why is there such a big attraction with London? It would be different if it was Chelsea, Arsenal or maybe Tottenham, but when they go to a smaller club just because it’s in London, then it’s clearly because of the shops.”

Did he move to sunderland when he was managing them, 2 faced judas comes to mind

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Did he move to sunderland when he was managing them, 2 faced judas comes to mind

:rolleyes:

Ah, why do Keane threads always go this way.

The_Kew_Tour

I think its best we close this thread.

8 years on and people still have kitten when his name is mentioned.

Move on.

ROCKMAN

recylingbin wrote: »

Bwahahahahahahahaha
Did you come up with that yourself.


For all the good and bad things that Keane has done in his career, the thing that stands head and shoulders above the rest is that he walked out on his country to sell a book.
That says it all about his principles.

Now thats commitment giving up a World Cup to go door to door ..................