New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules Updated 10/9/2024

Alangers

rubadub wrote: »

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html


That is per litre pure alcohol, i.e. if you imported 10litres of 40% alcohol it is 4L of pure alcohol. So you have to work out how much is in the bottles.

Also if I understand this below, it seems you might be liable for VAT too, or rather the seller should be doing it

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/pn1879.html


I dunno how strict this is, as I have seen lads in the beer forum order beer online, but yours is worth a lot more.

Sort of off topic, but if they are for personal use why are you buying all these minis rather than regular bottles, which are usually far cheaper per ml.

Thanks a million for the info above.

Just been trying to calculate out based on the figures above and its still working out a lot cheaper to buy in Austria. I'm a bit concerned about that VAT part as they are charging VAT in Austria and it would be a pain to have to pay again in Ireland.

Im looking for mini bottles as i'm hoping to have a Apres Ski party and want the small bottles just like you get in the ski resorts! Just a bit of fun but your right, expensive fun! Is that considered personal consumption??

loveisdivine

I've been trying to work out what the customs charges will be on some items I had made in the US and sent here.
They are bouquets and pomanders made from felt and buttons, for our wedding. Made by a lady in the US.
The value is about €650 including shipping.
The problem is, I cant find the right category to pick on the duty calculator websites. They dont seem to fall into any of the categories.

They should be here in a couple of days anyway, they have made it to Ireland but tracking number says they are in "Customs Clearance" since Friday. So I will find out in a few days anyway, but just wanted to be prepared. Im hoping it wont be over €200.

mark_79

Bought two items from the US a fortnight ago costing me €520. This morning I received an invoice from FedEx totalling just over €170.

Absolutely sickening. That's literally money for nothing that I may aswell flush down the toilet.

rubadub

mark_79 wrote: »

Absolutely sickening. That's literally money for nothing that I may aswell flush down the toilet.

But you are paying VAT, duty, admin costs etc loads of stuff you buy in shops here. It is just not transparently pointed out to you by most companies. If it was listed on all receipts and broken down then this €170 would probably not be sickening or surprising at all.

mark_79

It's still a racket. Have another package on the way from the US, this one valued at €240 and I'll be paying nothing extra on it. Admittedly the sender has fiddled the documentation to declare a sub €20 valuation and it's not being handled by FedEx but what is due, well, they'll never miss what they never had (get).

rubadub

mark_79 wrote: »

It's still a racket.

its legitimate taxation, do you consider the included VAT you pay on various other products to be a similar racket?


rack·et

3.
an organized illegal activity, such as bootlegging or the extortion of money from legitimate business people by threat or violence.
4.
a dishonest scheme, trick, business, activity, etc.: the latest weight-reducing racket.

What you are attempting to do is the racket! illegal tax evasion.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html

some websites state that they can misdeclare or undervalue the goods as a way of avoiding charges. Clearly, this is illegal and purchasers should bear in mind that they, as the importer of the goods, have legal responsibility for ensuring the accuracy of information provided on the declaration by the seller and ensuring that the correct payments are made; and

mark_79 -I have deleted your last post, not helpful or useful in this thread, and we can have no further discussion of tax evasion. As per charter rules.

RUDOLF289

mark_79 wrote: »

It's still a racket. Have another package on the way from the US, this one valued at €240 and I'll be paying nothing extra on it. Admittedly the sender has fiddled the documentation to declare a sub €20 valuation and it's not being handled by FedEx but what is due, well, they'll never miss what they never had (get).

You can take it as read that if An Post / Customs look at the parcel in detail and suspect that the value is incorrectly declared, they will ask you for proof of the value. If you can not (or will not) supply the correct value, Customs will establish their own valuation, based on their own information.

Trying to circumvent paying legally imposed duties and taxes is taking a risk which may lead to confiscation of your goods or a fine or both. Not sure why you would want to risk not paying VAT @ 23% plus whatever duty maybe due and lose the € 240 you have paid if your parcel gets snagged.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

RUDOLF289

mark_79 wrote: »

Bought two items from the US a fortnight ago costing me €520. This morning I received an invoice from FedEx totalling just over €170.

Absolutely sickening. That's literally money for nothing that I may aswell flush down the toilet.

Hello Mark_79. 33% over the value you indicate seems to be slightly out of line but not drastically so.

Duty is calculated over the cost of the product plus the freight cost. VAT is calculated over the combined total plus the duty. In addition FEDEX charges a fee for collecting the charges on behalf of Revenue.

Just bear in mind that the contribution in VAT that you have so generously made on this transaction will go a small way to reduce the debt burden we are all suffering under.

On behalf of a grateful Irish nation, our heartfelt thanks !

Cheers,
Rudolf289

PTO

Bought 5 records from the US amounting to $99, when they arrived this morning I was charged €24.79.

Anyone any idea why??

rubadub

PTO wrote: »

Bought 5 records from the US amounting to $99, when they arrived this morning I was charged €24.79.

Sounds normal. All explained in the first post.

nlgbbbblth

PTO wrote: »

Bought 5 records from the US amounting to $99, when they arrived this morning I was charged €24.79.

Anyone any idea why??

New or second hand?

I buy a lot of records from the US - only been hit when it's new stuff though.

PTO

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

New or second hand?

I buy a lot of records from the US - only been hit when it's new stuff though.

Oh right. They were new. Makes sense so. I've bought lots of 2nd hand myself and never got charged. Must've been because they were new so!
Thanks!

rubadub

New or second hand items should make no difference, in theory. i.e. it is not like secondhand stuff is exempt in case that's what you are thinking. They should just be going on the value.

What may be happening here is that if you are buying second hand it is more likely from a private seller, who may not give a declaration of value or invoice. While buying new from a shop will have invoices usually, which makes it easier for customs to process.

nlgbbbblth

rubadub wrote: »

New or second hand items should make no difference, in theory. i.e. it is not like secondhand stuff is exempt in case that's what you are thinking. They should just be going on the value.

What may be happening here is that if you are buying second hand it is more likely from a private seller, who may not give a declaration of value or invoice. While buying new from a shop will have invoices usually, which makes it easier for customs to process.

Exactly.

dariafour

I bought a piece of expensive equipment from Hong Kong via ebay and the seller marked the value down at a very low price instead of the true cost. The item is stuck in customs in Dublin now and I've instead received a letter asking me to provide proof of purchase so they can work out how much I owe.

I have no problem at all paying the genuine amount of duty/tax, but my problem is that in the letter is states:

"as the importer of the goods, you have legal responsibility for ensuring the accuracy of information provided on the declaration by the seller"

I had no control over the seller's actions, but now I'm worried I'll be the one who gets in trouble because the cost was marked down. Anyone experienced this or know what to do?!!

rubadub

dariafour wrote: »

I had no control over the seller's actions, but now I'm worried I'll be the one who gets in trouble because the cost was marked down. Anyone experienced this or know what to do?!!

I highly doubt you will get in any trouble legally. You will just have to print out your paypal receipts or whatever emails you have showing the true cost.

RUDOLF289

dariafour wrote: »

I bought a piece of expensive equipment from Hong Kong via ebay and the seller marked the value down at a very low price instead of the true cost. The item is stuck in customs in Dublin now and I've instead received a letter asking me to provide proof of purchase so they can work out how much I owe.

I have no problem at all paying the genuine amount of duty/tax, but my problem is that in the letter is states:

"as the importer of the goods, you have legal responsibility for ensuring the accuracy of information provided on the declaration by the seller"

I had no control over the seller's actions, but now I'm worried I'll be the one who gets in trouble because the cost was marked down. Anyone experienced this or know what to do?!!

You can take it as read that Customs snagged it because the value was marked down. All you can do at this stage is submit the paypall receipt and plead ignorance. I reckon, customs will accept the value based on your paypall receipt and calculate duty and vat accordingly without levying any fine.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

irishred73

is there vat on silver ingots?

PickledLime

Hi folks,

I've been thinking about placing a bulk order of CDs (about 20 or so) on Amazon.co.uk. The CDs would be coming from various Marketplace sellers, but there's one in particular that has a decent selection/prices. It says they ship from California, so i'm conscious of not buying more than €26.08's worth (P&P included) from them in one go.

What i'm curious about is their P&P costs, seen here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aag/details?ie=UTF8&asin=B000CSULKO&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&seller=A39ICD481JU15Y&sshmPath=shipping-rates#aag_shipping

The post is cheapest to a UK address, then a European one, with postage to the US/Canada coming in at a good deal more. It also says on their front that items "Ships with Royal Mail 2". These facts for me add up to the items shipping from the UK.

Anyone any ideas? Ever got charged VAT with a delivery from these guys? I'd like to buy the majority of my stuff here as they're a great store, but it'll be inconvenient to stagger the purchases.

Thanks.

nlgbbbblth

PickledLime wrote: »

Hi folks,

I've been thinking about placing a bulk order of CDs (about 20 or so) on Amazon.co.uk. The CDs would be coming from various Marketplace sellers, but there's one in particular that has a decent selection/prices. It says they ship from California, so i'm conscious of not buying more than €26.08's worth (P&P included) from them in one go.

What i'm curious about is their P&P costs, seen here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aag/details?ie=UTF8&asin=B000CSULKO&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&seller=A39ICD481JU15Y&sshmPath=shipping-rates#aag_shipping

The post is cheapest to a UK address, then a European one, with postage to the US/Canada coming in at a good deal more. It also says on their front that items "Ships with Royal Mail 2". These facts for me add up to the items shipping from the UK.

Anyone any ideas? Ever got charged VAT with a delivery from these guys? I'd like to buy the majority of my stuff here as they're a great store, but it'll be inconvenient to stagger the purchases.

Thanks.

Amazon.co.uk have a standard postage charge for all CDs sold on Marketplace. It's GBP £1.82 for us. This price applies whether the item is a regular CD album or a multi-disc box set.

If you order 20 CDs from Marketplace you will be charged 20 x £1.82.
If some of the discs are from the same seller they may offer a partial shipping refund [if they decide to put the CDs in the one package] but they're not obliged to.

Generally speaking the discs will ship separately. I've ordered hundreds of second hand CDs on Amazon [US and Canada as well as UK] over the years and have never been caught for import duty when the sellers originate from outside the EU.

PickledLime

Ah, okay, didn't realise it's a standard shipping cost. Thanks

To be honest, i've bought loads of them before, but i used the girlfriend's 3V (we'd usually go splits on a voucher) and postal address (much less likely to miss the postie there), but we broke up recently so i can't really ask her what usually happens.

Atomicjuicer

Hi, I bought a ring for a bit under 800 euro in a retail jewellery shop in Germany a week or two ago. It won't be ready for a few more days.

The company don't post to Ireland so I was going to ask a work colleague to bring it over for me when flying.

There seems to be a rule on bringing goods worth over 450 euro on a plane. Does this need to be declared and if so how and if so how much will it cost and will my friend have to be searched in the red exit at airport (they may not be up for that)? Or is something like UPS just a better idea?

Don't mind paying the tax but don't know how or how much...

Thanks

i want to buy this

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/251147469804?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


i cannt figure out that caluator dammit

mickzer

Deleted User wrote: »

i want to buy this

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/251147469804?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


i cannt figure out that caluator dammit

Calculation results


Edit





Total customs value:

€244.14



- Duty:

€0.00



- VAT:

€56.15



Total import duty & taxes due:

€56.15



Total landed cost:

€300.29 at USD/EUR exchange rate of 0.7637

mickzer.

Jarren

Perfect ^

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/112691612/

mickzer

Jarren wrote: »

Perfect ^

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/112691612/

Yeah, I should have provided the link:(:(

mickzer.

Blue Spark

For the past month or two, I've been surfing the web for the cheapest prices of computer components. I eventually came to a US site and also an eBay located in the US.

Unless I'm misinformed, is there no duty on Computer Hardware? I've been researching this for a month or two, and I've come to no conclusions. Also, in the OP, it says the maximum VAT for purchases is €22, yet in the duty calculator the VAT calculations just get the percentage of the total cost. If someone could maybe post a link to a site that explains it in whole, it'd be helpful.

The total cost would be around €1,800, but let's take one item specifically, for example, the GTX 680. The particular version I'm looking to purchase would cost about €500. If I were to order it from the US, would the VAT be €100+?

Sorry if I seem like I haven't done any research, or if I'm asking obvious questions, I'm just simply confused at this point.

doing

I want to buy an mp3 player from a british site, when they send it to Ireland is there any way I can just pay VAT without having to have customs intercept it first?

I'm not trying to evade VAT or anything like that so why can't I just pay the VAT up front or something so it can be delivered hassle free? Or is there a way to do this?

mickzer

From above calculator:
Notes on import taxes due
Duty and VAT due are nil because the shipment is between two EU countries. However, the seller may include VAT in the price of the goods.

mickzer

linda_mjb

Good Morning,

I wam looking for some advice on claiming back import/export tax. I have an Irish registered comany and was shipping something from Guernsey to Watford(UK). Import duty was incurred to the value of 6K. I have contacted both HMRC who said that the refund comes from the Revenue. I have been given conflicting methods of cliaming this back from the revenue. One said it could be done via the VAT3 another said to register for EVR and claim in back that way? Does anyone have any experience of this?

Cheers

LC

doing

mickzer wrote: »

From above calculator:
Notes on import taxes due
Duty and VAT due are nil because the shipment is between two EU countries. However, the seller may include VAT in the price of the goods.

mickzer

I thought VAT had to be paid and that was why Amazon.co.uk aren't shipping electronic goods to Ireland?

rubadub

doing wrote: »

I thought VAT had to be paid and that was why Amazon.co.uk aren't shipping electronic goods to Ireland?

Amazon.co.uk have some strange exemptions, they are listed on their sites. I think there is a problem with items being considered media, like blank DVDs. They seem to regard some mp3 players like media storage devices, and I think there is a levy or something here to go towards piracy. While they may sell similar items, like apple ipods with no restriction.

Amazon will also charge irish VAT on goods, but not UK vat. This is since they do over €35,000 business with Ireland per year so are obliged to. This is not a double hit on VAT, just Irish, and you pay amazon at checkout.

Rainman101

Hi,
New on here....quick question...firstly imported item from the States fed ex delivered...tought I got away with tax however fed ex sent me a bill today saying they had paid import tax I now owe them 70 euro...damn.....however my question is this as I'm really unsure now ......I bought an item from China paid for ems post....I tracked it, believed it was stopped in customs however soon after local post run dropped it to door and I signed for it..end off....will I now get some kind of bill or am I ok....any help welcome.

lesserspottedchloe

If you return something because it isn't suitable do you get a refund of VAT/Customs? Recent purchase set me back 80euro in charges which is more than the value of one of the items :mad:

mrmeindl

Do customs notify you if they've seized a package? I've been waiting 2 months on a Five euro pair of headphones from dealextreme but they haven't turned up. Just wondering if its possible they were seized.

Motivator

I bought a jersey from Ebay & paid $76 USD including shipping. What kind of money am I looking at paying in terms of VAT/Customs etc.?

Is there any way of avoiding these costs?

braymoor1976

Hi, My son is getting a 5th generation ipod touch in the mail from his grandmother from canada, its insured for 400 Canadian and its shipping costs were 67.00 dollars, I am trying to figure out what price I will have to pay in duty or vat so I can get a ball park idea how much money I will need. Does anyone know what an ipod touch is classified as for tax purposes, it is listed as a gift as well even though I know it exceeds the amount allowed. Thanks in advance

allthedoyles

braymoor1976 wrote: »

Hi, My son is getting a 5th generation ipod touch in the mail from his grandmother from canada, its insured for 400 Canadian and its shipping costs were 67.00 dollars, I am trying to figure out what price I will have to pay in duty or vat so I can get a ball park idea how much money I will need. Does anyone know what an ipod touch is classified as for tax purposes, it is listed as a gift as well even though I know it exceeds the amount allowed. Thanks in advance

Total customs value: 361.88
- Duty: €50.30
- VAT: €94.80
Total import duty & taxes due: €145.10


E.& O.E.

braymoor1976

Thanks i was hoping it was exempt from duty as an iphone is since they share similar hs codes too bad for me

allthedoyles

If its got same hs code you will save €50 duty

shocksy

Purchased something from amazon.com, it came to a total of €25.50 including product and shipping, i selected standard shipping as i was in no hurry for the item, but for some reason amazon sent it by courier which is normally alot more expensive, so basically i got fast shipping at their expense which has now turned out to cost me even more with fee's.

But anyway UPS show up today saying there is a COD of €23.41, i didnt have the money to pay and quite frankly i dont want to pay 100% in fees of the purchase price.

The fees worked out at €9.41 to customs and €14 to UPS for their ''handling charge'' which is a f***ing disgrace.

Customs and Revenue also want to get a grip of themselves, im a miserable €3 over the limit an they hit me, it would be more in their line to look out for bigger packages and not be petty over small amounts like this, people have often gotten bigger amounts through without been hit for a charge, so obvioulsy they arent very good at their job, but anyway i wouldnt mind paying the odd €9 if they are that hard up for it which it seems they are, but i am not paying UPS their outrageous handling charge.

Can i request it to be returned to amazon at no expense of my own and let UPS reclaim the vat themselves.

Jarren

Not sure about Amazon.com policy regarding this specific issue.
Have you checked their terms&conditions about taxes/fees and customs before proceding with purchasing your item ?

anjo70

hi does anyone know when i might get my package it was dispatched from shanghai on 13 dec and hasent moved since its for santa so im hoping it gets here soon ..thanks

mrmeindl

anjo70 wrote: »

hi does anyone know

No

Jarren

anjo70 wrote: »

hi does anyone know when i might get my package it was dispatched from shanghai on 13 dec and hasent moved since its for santa so im hoping it gets here soon ..thanks

Get the seller to chase it for you .

anjo70

Jarren wrote: »

Get the seller to chase it for you .

thanks ....but i mailed them no response its in shanghai since tuesday i guess ill just have to wait and pray it gets here in time for santa

Jarren

Mention the chargeback and they will get back to you pronto .
Depending on how much you spent of course .

anjo70

Jarren wrote: »

Mention the chargeback and they will get back to you pronto .
Depending on how much you spent of course .

whats the charge back ??? never heard of it spent over 150 euro ..do you mean a refund and can you do that ..thanks

Jarren

First thing is first.
Email them today or call them tomorrow(mind the time difference)

Wait for them to get back to you (2/3 days)

If there is no response commence chargeback procedure(usually means cancelling your credit card or stopping a transcaction from going through your account.

Out of curiosity

Can you link the website where you got your item from ?

anjo70

Jarren wrote: »

First thing is first.
Email them today or call them tomorrow(mind the time difference)

Wait for them to get back to you (2/3 days)

If there is no response commence chargeback procedure(usually means cancelling your credit card or stopping a transcaction from going through your account.

Out of curiosity

Can you link the website where you got your item from ?

cash is all ready gone out of my account id say its safe enough although it is my first time buying from this seller http://www.wholesalefashionstyle.com/ bought stuff for the kids its with EMS some say they are fast others say they are slow ..