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New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules

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    #1712
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    fryup wrote: »
    the difference? of nearly €7.00 ?? that can't be right

    and why am i paying VAT on shipping & services? surely the vat should be charged on the value of the item only

    VAT is charged on the CIF value of the goods. CIF is Cost, Insurance and Freight. The CIF value is what the goods actually cost you. Any customs processing fee charged by couriers is separate to to the shipping cost.


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    #1713
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    ok so how come i'm still paying 7 quid over the odds?

    it seems to me they're picking figures out of the air


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    #1714
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    fryup wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    ok so how come i'm still paying 7 quid over the odds?

    it seems to me they're picking figures out of the air

    does the 37 include the DHL processing fee or is it purely the vat element and the DHL processing fee is on top of that? what was the total cost including the shipping?


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    #1715
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    corkie wrote: »
    If ordering from the likes of Amazon, you should be paying the courier fees at checkout.

    if you buy through amazon they charge you the irish VAT in advance but they do not add an additional fee for processing the customs clearance.


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    #1716
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    does the 37 include the DHL processing fee or is it purely the vat element and the DHL processing fee is on top of that? what was the total cost including the shipping?

    the original cost including shipping was €113

    today i get an email from DHL - i have to pay import duty/tax of €37.94.....

    vat @ import €23.44

    advance payment (DHL) of €14.50


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    #1717
    davetherave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭davetherave


    When you say the item cost 113, is that the total cost including the postage. Because that would roughly add up to what they are saying.

    113 * 0.21 = 23.73 VAT

    + 14.50 EUR (or 2.5% of the advanced amount, if higher) Advanced Payment: The service covers any import of a non-document shipment for which DHL has paid or used its customs credit line advancing customs duties, taxes or regulatory charges on behalf of those importers with whom DHL has no contract. The charge is based on the credit advanced or guaranteed and is subject to a standard minimum

    Gives you €38.23



    The Advance Payment Fee isn't included in the total transaction value for vat purposes. I'm happy to be corrected but I think Corkie has it wrong. From one of my own shipments from Hong Kong last year.

    See first image: The entry form where you can see the amount of Duty owed, and then the amount of VAT owed comes to €105.06
    https://i.imgur.com/cfIAcne.png



    Then the receipt from DHL showing €119.56, €14.50 more.

    https://i.imgur.com/TYjTnby.png


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    #1718
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    fryup wrote: »
    the original cost including shipping was €113

    today i get an email from DHL - i have to pay import duty/tax of €37.94.....

    vat @ import €23.44

    advance payment (DHL) of €14.50

    That looks spot on.
    I'm not clear what the issue is?


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    #1719
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    @davetherave

    OK get ya,

    so is that the way its going to be from now on for UK items? even those bought on amazon.uk? and posted via an post?


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    #1720
    corkie
    Registered Users Posts: 7,420 ✭✭✭corkie


    @fryup My calculations before where in Error, I calculated vat on customs fee, but forgot to add the expense of it to total.


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    #1721
    sniper_samurai
    Registered Users Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    fryup wrote: »
    @davetherave

    OK get ya,

    so is that the way its going to be from now on for UK items? even those bought on amazon.uk? and posted via an post?

    You pay the Irish VAT at the checkout on Amazon.

    If you are getting entertainment items Zavvi have set up a .ie portal and their stuff is sent with the VAT paid as well.


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    #1722
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    oh btw - are DHL going to charge me extra for everyday they hold my item?


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    #1723
    AnimalRights
    Registered Users Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Ok I posted a few weeks back about buying a PC from England and ofc was wondering about the import duty, PC was a very expensive gamers one and I was sure I would have a hefty bill...
    I must have been lucky cos nada, not 1 extra cent.
    UPS delivered.


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    #1724
    VG31
    Registered Users Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭VG31


    AnimalRights wrote: »
    Ok I posted a few weeks back about buying a PC from England and ofc was wondering about the import duty, PC was a very expensive gamers one and I was sure I would have a hefty bill...
    I must have been lucky cos nada, not 1 extra cent.
    UPS delivered.

    Where did you buy it from? The company may charge Irish VAT. Overclockers UK do. There is no duty on computer hardware.


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    #1725
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    fryup wrote: »
    oh btw - are DHL going to charge me extra for everyday they hold my item?

    Not normally.


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    #1726
    sbkenn
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭sbkenn


    One UK supplier told me that UK VAT will be transferred to Ireland, so only the difference between UK and Ireland will be charged/ I presume that would require the invoice to be attached to the shipment, but I still have my doubts. I used Addresspal a lot, but as the mailing address would be Hatfield rather than here, the supplier says that they can't sell VAT free.


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    #1727
    Fwarder
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Fwarder


    sbkenn wrote: »
    One UK supplier told me that UK VAT will be transferred to Ireland, so only the difference between UK and Ireland will be charged/ I presume that would require the invoice to be attached to the shipment, but I still have my doubts. I used Addresspal a lot, but as the mailing address would be Hatfield rather than here, the supplier says that they can't sell VAT free.

    Not true. Full IE VAT is being charged

    However they are correct as well. Tjey can't sell to within the UK without charging you VAT


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    #1728
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    If I buy a 6 bottle case of wine online from Italy am I liable to pay Excise on it?


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    #1729
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    vicwatson wrote: »
    If I buy a 6 bottle case of wine online from Italy am I liable to pay Excise on it?

    See the 1st post, all the links are there.


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    #1730
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    whiterebel wrote: »
    See the 1st post, all the links are there.




    Thank you


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    #1731
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Hi All,

    Looking for some advice, I did a search of the forum but could not find an answer.

    I need to buy about €1000 of books from the USA for a course I am doing. The delivery fee is also very high at €250. Unfortunately there are no options but to buy from this source.

    What's the customs situation with books, I see that they are VAT exempt, but I am finding different information online about the potential customs duty.

    Does anybody have any knowledge on this? I would appreciate it a lot.


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    #1732
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    See the first post in this thread. Look up the Tariff code or taric for books and it will tell you if duty is payable.


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    #1733
    Fingers Mcginty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Fingers Mcginty


    Hi,
    I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this.
    I know they are not part of the EU but are a member of the EEA.
    Would any of you know if i'd incur customs if i were to make the purchase?


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    #1734
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    There is a specific thread on import and customs charges. Merge..


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    #1735
    bassy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭bassy


    Guys I'm looking at buying a small item from the states for 42 dollars anyone know how much I'm likely to pay for tax and customs ?.


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    #1736
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    bassy wrote: »
    Guys I'm looking at buying a small item from the states for 42 dollars anyone know how much I'm likely to pay for tax and customs ?.

    Check the first post in the thread.


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    #1737
    RobSR
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭RobSR


    Hi,
    I ordered an item from the UK through Amazon for approx £96 in early Jan. which I received end of Jan. Just got an unexpected invoice from the courier company for VAT and an advancement fee totaling €41. I know things have changed with Brexit, but was sure that these charges were at least to be advised or accounted for at the point of sale. Have I any comeback on this or am I obliged to pay. I think it strange the courier company released the package before receiving payment for this.
    Thanks


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    #1738
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    You bought from the UK which is now outside the EU. So you owe VAT and charges to the courier.


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    #1739
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    whiterebel wrote: »
    You bought from the UK which is now outside the UK. So you owe VAT and charges to the courier.


    Amazon always charged Irish VAT on shipments to Ireland.

    Was Amazon the seller or someone selling through Amazon?



    Unless you need it urgently, check the current price on Amazon, refuse delivery (it is very late), get a refund and order it again.


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    #1740
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,650 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Amazon charge Irish VAT. Are you sure the courier invoice is genuine? They usually look for payment before delivery and €41 seems excessive on that sale total. Also, Amazon rarely use couriers.


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    #1741
    gipi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭gipi


    Was the item bought from Amazon or was it a marketplace seller? Amazon would include Irish VAT and import duties if any, marketplace sellers might not.


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