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  • 23-03-2010 5:19pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭


    Decided I'd finally start a log to keep myself in check and hopefully get some advice off people along the way. Been lifting semi-serious for about a year and a half for rugby trying to gain size and strength

    Age: 17
    Weight: 74kg
    Height: 5 9 or 5 10 not exactly sure
    Position: Flanker

    Notes: Tore my rotator cuff recently and can't bench anywhere near my max after 2 months of physio. Hopefully after a while I'll be back to it. Also, I couldn't really give a ****e about BF as long as I don't start to get a tummy on me, no desire or determination to be ripped in anyway shape or form.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    So its all gonna probably kick off on thursday. Planning on starting the following:

    Workout #1
    Squats - 10-8-6 Reps
    Hack Squats - 10-8-6 Reps
    Straight Leg Deadlifts - 10-8 Reps
    Standing Calf Raises - 12-10-8 Reps
    Pullups - 8-6-4 Reps
    Seated Rows - 8-6-4 Reps
    Dumbbell Rows - 10-8 Reps
    Hyperextension - 12-10-8 Reps

    Workout #2
    Flat Barbell Bench Press - 10-8-6 Reps
    Incline DB Press - 10-8-6 Reps
    Cable Crossovers - 10-8 Reps
    Incline DB Flyes - 10-8 Reps
    Shoulder Press - 10-8-6 Reps
    Side Laterals - 10-8 Reps
    Bent Over Raises - 10-8 Reps
    Barbell Shrugs - 12-10-8 Reps

    Workout #3
    Dips (Emphasize Triceps) - 8-6-4 Reps
    Skullcrushers - 12-10-8 Reps
    Close Grip BP - 10-8 Reps
    Standing EZ Bar Curls - 12-10-8 Reps
    Preacher DB Curls - 10-8 Reps
    Alt. Seated Hammer Curls - 20-16 Reps


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Bearing in mind I'm 17 and not gonna be to strict with it, don't judge me :D

    Breakfast
    3 Weetabix - 250ml milk - 250ml fresh fruit juice

    Mid Morning
    2-3 pieces of flapjacks
    apple/banana
    Water

    Lunch
    2 or 4 (depending on hunger) sandwiches with granary bread
    Olive oil spread
    Ham/Turkey/Chicken
    Sticks of carrot
    Yogurt
    Water

    Mid Afternoon
    100gr nuts and seeds
    apple/banana
    Drink

    Protein Shake before gym or when home from school

    Evening Meal
    Could be anything to be honest, whatever Mammy makes. Spaghetti, curry, stew, chicken + pasta you name it
    Yogurt
    Drink

    Mid Evening
    3 Weetabix
    250ml Milk
    Handful of nuts and seeds
    drink


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    My mate was going gym so I decided I'd give the new program a shot with him

    Flat Barbell Bench Press
    60kg

    Incline DB Press
    15kg each hang

    Cable Crossovers
    10kg each hang

    Incline DB Flyes
    10kg

    Shoulder Press
    15kg

    Barbell Shrugs
    60kg on Smith Machine

    Im pretty happy with the bench, I thought I'd be struggling a lot more on the it with the shoulder but it held up well until the very last rep. It held up ok on the shoulder press aswell but didn't want to push it much more and cause myself harm. Cable crossovers, its the first time I've ever done them so I can see the weight increasing a bit over the next few weeks. Flyes I started out on 15kg and had to drop it down through sheer pain. I put in an extra set on the lighter weight to make up for it. Incline DB press I could have pushed harder I guess aswell. First time I've done shrugs like that and I have to say it rips up your hands haha.

    The side laterals and bent over raises were impossible with the injury. This day is probably going to suffer until I get it sorted


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Dips
    BW + 15kg 8-6-4

    Skullcrushers
    25kg 12-10-8

    Close Grip BP
    40kg 10-8

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    30kg 12-10-8

    Preacher DB Curls
    12.5kg 10-8

    Alt. Seated Hammer Curls
    12.5kg Arms were in rag at this stage 20-16


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Hiya, just wondering where you got the program from? If you're new to training and looking to put on size and strength would you not look into Starting Strength or Westside for skinny bastards? There's a few guys with logs in here doing those who seem to be making good progress on them, if you have a route through the logs you'll see a few examples. Just an idea though!

    Also, it would be easier for you and other posters to see your progress if you put in the number of reps also :) e.g. 10kg x 8 (reps) x 4 (sets)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    G86 wrote: »
    Hiya, just wondering where you got the program from? If you're new to training and looking to put on size and strength would you not look into Starting Strength or Westside for skinny bastards? There's a few guys with logs in here doing those who seem to be making good progress on them, if you have a route through the logs you'll see a few examples. Just an idea though!

    Also, it would be easier for you and other posters to see your progress if you put in the number of reps also :) e.g. 10kg x 8 (reps) x 4 (sets)

    Got it from my coach, I've never been on Starting Strength before but I know about it alright and Ive read up on it. I can't deadlift properly cause my shoulder pops out (its weird) among other things so this is a contributing factor. I have the reps in my first post with my workout, so I didnt bother putting it in my new posts, but I will from now on.


    EDIT: Just edited my last post there, but can't edit my first for some reason. Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    BW: 76.8

    Squats
    10-8-6 Reps 90kg

    Hack Squats
    10-8-6 Reps Just trying to get my form right, never done them before. Could anyone post a link to a video which shows you how to do them? Couldn't get the hang of them

    Straight Leg Deadlifts
    10-8 Reps 85kg

    Standing Calf Raises
    12-10-8 Reps 70kg

    Pullups
    8-6-4 Reps BW + 15kg

    Seated Rows
    8-6-4 Reps 30kg (Could have pushed a lot harder but first time I've done them)

    Dumbbell Rows
    10-8 Reps 20kg DBs

    Hyperextension
    12-10-8 Reps BW + 20kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    3 days on the drink in a row left me in rag. Hasn't been a good week so far.

    Incline DB Press
    17.5kg 10-8-6 Reps

    Cable Crossovers
    10kg each hand 10-8 Reps

    Incline DB Flyes
    15kg 10-8 Reps

    Shoulder Press
    15kg 10-8-6 Reps (Shoulder was a bit sore here)

    Barbell Shrugs
    60kg 12-10-8 Reps

    Flat Barbell Bench Press
    60kg 8-4-4 Reps - I fúcking hate Carlisle. Seriously, the benches were in use for a full 45 minutes. I always start with bench, just pisses me off so much :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Dips (Emphasize Triceps)
    BW + 15kg 8-6-4 Reps

    Skullcrushers
    25kg 12-10-8 Reps

    Close Grip Bench
    45kg 10-8 Reps

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    12(45kg) 5(45kg) 10(40kg) 8(40kg)

    Preacher DB Curls
    12.5kg 10-8 Reps

    Alt. Seated Hammer Curls
    10kg 40-40 Reps (Higher DBs were taken so did more reps)

    Ab Crunches
    15x3


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Gym was packed today, hour and fifteen minutes and didn't even get everything done

    Squats
    20kg x 5
    40 x 5
    80 x 10
    85 x 10
    85 x 8
    85 x 6

    Straight Leg Deadlifts
    90 x 10
    90 x 8
    90 x 4
    90 x 4

    Pullups - use dbs for added weight, 15 & 12.5 being used
    BW + 10 kg x 8
    BW + 10 kg x 8
    BW + 10 kg x 8
    BW + 10 kg x 6

    Dumbbell Rows
    22.5 kg 10-8 Reps

    Hyperextension
    BW + 20kg 12-10-8 Reps

    EDIT: Now that I look at it I actually got nothing done, it was jammers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Flat Barbell Bench Press
    20kg x 10
    40kg x 8
    60 x 10
    60 x 8
    65 x 5

    Incline DB Press
    17.5 x 8
    17.5 x 5
    15 x 8
    15 x 6

    Cable Crossovers
    10kg each cable x 10
    " " x 8

    Incline DB Flyes
    15kg x 8
    12.5 x 10
    12.5 x 8

    Shoulder Press
    15 x 7
    15 x 5 WTF?

    Barbell Shrugs
    60kg x 12
    60 x 10
    60 x 8

    Ab Crunches
    x25
    x15


    Tried to pack it all into a 45 minute session, I think thats why the shoulder press suffered so much. Im in bits


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Should really be adding in here that I have gaelic training twice a week and a match every second sunday. Match today, did something iffy to my quad, think it might be a strain. Gonna RICE it and see how things go, hopefully I'll still be able to squat next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Skullcrushers
    25kg x 13
    27.5 x 10
    27.5 x 8

    Dips
    BW + 17.5kg x 7
    BW + 17.5 x 5
    BW + 17.5 x 3

    Close Grip Bench
    55kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    50 x 8
    50 x 8

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    32.5 x 12
    35 x 10
    35 x 8

    Preacher DB Curls
    12.5 x 10
    12.5 x 8

    Seated Hammer Curls
    12.5 x 20
    12.5 x 16


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Can't do any leg work with the quad, probably could go light, but have Leinster trials next week and don't particularly wanna risk anything.

    Flat Barbell Bench Press
    20 x 8
    40 x 8
    65 x 10
    65 x 7
    65 x 5

    Incline DB Press
    17.5 x 10
    20 x 8
    20 x 5

    Cable Crossovers
    10 on each cable x 10
    10 x 8
    12.5 x5

    Incline DB Flyes
    15 x 10
    17.5 x 7
    15 x 7

    Shoulder Press
    15 x 10
    15 x 8
    15 x 6

    Barbell Shrugs
    80 x 12
    80 x 10
    80 x 8


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Squats
    Bar x 10
    40 x 10
    80 x 10
    85 x 10
    85 x 8
    85 x 8
    85 x 8
    85 x 6

    Deadlifts
    100 x 10
    100 x 8
    90 x 8

    Pullups
    15 x 8
    15 x 6
    15 x 4

    Seated Rows
    47.5 x 8
    47,5 x 6
    47.5 x 4

    Dumbbell Rows
    25 x 10
    25 x 8

    Hyperextension
    BW + 20kg x 12
    BW + 20kg x 10


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    So it looks like I've done **** all this week but its not the case. On monday and tuesday I did a bit of cardio for trials I had on Wednesday, after which I was in bits and couldnt even think about going to the gym. Managed to hurt my rotator cuff again, but I dont think its too bad. Should be ok in a few days. This is what I did yesterday. Shoulder was sore doing the close grip so I just did pushdowns instead.

    Dips (Emphasize Triceps)
    BW + 20kg x8
    BW + 20kg x8
    BW + 20kg x8

    Skullcrushers
    27.5 x12
    27.5 x10
    27.5 x8

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    37.5 x12
    37.5 x10
    37.5 x8

    Preacher DB Curls
    12.5 x10
    12.5 x8

    Alt. Seated Hammer Curls
    12.5 x20
    12.5 x16

    Tricep Pushdown
    Honestly cant remember the weight, did 2 sets x 10


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Squats
    Bar x8
    40 x10
    70 x8
    85 x10
    90 x10
    90 x8
    90 x6
    120 x4

    Deadlifts
    40 x10
    90 x10
    90 x8

    Standing Calf Raises
    80 x12
    80 x10

    Pullups
    8-6-4 Reps BW + 15kg

    Seated Rows
    47.5 x10
    47.5 x8
    47.5 x6

    Dumbbell Rows
    25kg x10
    x8

    decided to go for a quick jog with a mate. 1km in 4minutes. Im pretty happy with that.

    ab crunches
    BW x25

    Plank
    2 x 20seconds


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Flat Barbell Bench Press
    Bar x5
    50kg x5
    65 x10
    70 x8
    70 x6

    Incline DB Press
    20kg x10
    20kg x8
    20kg x6

    Cable Crossovers
    12.5 (each cable)x10
    12.5 x8
    12.5 x8

    Incline DB Flyes
    15kg x10
    15kg x8

    Front Laterals
    8kg x20
    8kg x16

    Barbell Shrugs
    90kg x12
    x10
    x8


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Dips (Emphasize Triceps)
    BW + 20kg x10
    BW + 20kg x10
    BW + 20kg x10

    Skullcrushers
    27.5 x12
    27.5 x10
    27.5 x8

    Close Grip Bench - Shoulder was pretty sore here
    50 x12
    50 x10
    50 x8
    50 x7

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    37.5 x7
    35 x12
    35 x12
    30 x13

    Preacher DB Curls
    12.5 x10
    12.5 x8

    Alt. Seated Hammer Curls
    12.5 x20
    12.5 x16


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Went over to the Leinster Toulouse match, was unreal. Missed 4 days of gym though

    Squats
    bar x10
    60 x5
    100 x10
    100 x8
    100 x8

    Deadlift
    50 x10
    100 x 5
    80 x10
    80 x8 - trying to get my form right

    Calf Raises
    70 x12
    70 x10
    70 x5 - ****ed up my back, ended the session here after it. Id say itll be grand for wednesday


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  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Very quick session, match in an hour.

    Chins
    BW +20kg x8
    BW +20kg x8
    BW +15kg x8

    Wide Grip Pullup
    BW x7
    BW x5
    BW x4

    BW Pushups
    20 x5


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    just wondering, are you sure your squatting to depth? your squat seems a good bit stronger than your deadlift..


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    just wondering, are you sure your squatting to depth? your squat seems a good bit stronger than your deadlift..

    Yeah I noticed this myself. I'm getting to what I guess you could call I right angle at my knees and pushing back up, should I try get lower? theres only I'd say about 2" or 3" til i hit the rack. Could just be me being **** at deadlifting and this being the first time I've had it in a program.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    Oisinjm wrote: »
    Yeah I noticed this myself. I'm getting to what I guess you could call I right angle at my knees and pushing back up, should I try get lower? theres only I'd say about 2" or 3" til i hit the rack. Could just be me being **** at deadlifting and this being the first time I've had it in a program.
    maybe grab a vid of the squat and deadlift? see if theres anything wrong with either of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Unfortunately I don't really have a way of video'ing anything. Ill get one of the instructors to check it out though. Thanks man.

    Bench Press
    67.5 x10
    67.5 x7
    67.5 x6

    Cable Crossovers
    12.5 each hand x10
    12.5 x8

    Incline DB Press
    20kg x10
    20kg x8
    20kg x6

    Incline DB Flyes
    15kg x10
    15kg x8

    Shoulder Press
    15kg x10
    15kg x7
    15kg x6

    Shrugs
    80kg x12
    80kg x10
    80kg x10


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Good lifting lad.

    Eh.. did someone alter your signature without your knowledge though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Good lifting lad.

    Eh.. did someone alter your signature without your knowledge though?

    Cheers, ha yeah think it was my brother but I've grown fond of it so its staying :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Did my arm day yesterday, was sick all week felt ****. Forgot to put up the workout so I'm not arsed doing it now. Didn't make any gains as far as I remember


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    Squats
    40 x8
    70 x6
    100 x10
    100 x8
    110 x8

    Deadlifts
    60 x5
    95 x10
    95 x8

    Calf Raises
    90 x12
    90 x10
    90 x8

    Pullups
    BW +15 x 8
    BW +15 x 6
    BW +15 x 4

    Seated Rows
    50 x 8
    50 x 6
    50 x 4

    Dumbbell Rows
    25 x 10
    25 x 8

    Hyperextensions
    BW + 22.5kg x 12
    BW + 22.5kg x 10


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    Oisinjm wrote: »
    Yeah I noticed this myself. I'm getting to what I guess you could call I right angle at my knees and pushing back up, should I try get lower? theres only I'd say about 2" or 3" til i hit the rack. Could just be me being **** at deadlifting and this being the first time I've had it in a program.

    as in your thighs and calfs are 90 degress to each other? sounds like a half squat to me... your thigh should be parallel to the floor for a full squat.


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