Pubs to open in Limerick on Good Friday

Spud83

Min wrote: »

They shouldn't be allowed because they don't need it and it is only 2 days out of 365 or 366 if a leap year that one can't buy alcohol.

Thats not a reason. Ah sure its only two days a year. So what why should that choice be taken away from me for those two days a year?

Min wrote: »

Here, would you be happy to work a full day on Good Friday and in return have all pubs open?

I suspect the people who get off work or work a half day on Good Friday just want one without the other, no work but yes to alcohol.

Good Friday is not a bank holiday, I have worked it before and would again in the future. It depends on your company. I'm obviously not going to tell my job to give me less days off. Sure they give more days off just for length of service. Thats their choice I'm not argue with them over it.

Min

Gustavo Dirty Target wrote: »

You shouldn't be allowed to post on boards because you don't need to.

Ok I will not post for 24 hours which is longer than some can go without alcohol as they can't enjoy themselves or socialise without it.

Risteard

Min wrote: »

Ok I will not post for 24 hours which is longer than some can go without alcohol as they can't enjoy themselves or socialise without it.

Except a lot of the people at the match will have gone a lot more than 24 hours without alcohol. People don't drink every single day.

Drummerboy2

Twin-go wrote: »

Good Friday is not a public holiday. why should people have a day off unless they booked it as a holiday?

Opening time 6.30pm to 11.30pm I think.

Well a lot of business don't bother opening on Good Friday, even though, as you point out, its not a public holiday. Offices in particular don't seem to open. If the day become a normal day, offices may start opening.

Min

Min wrote: »

Ok I will not post for 24 hours which is longer than some can go without alcohol as they can't enjoy themselves or socialise without it.

What difference does it make to you if people drink 365 days a year. Honestly I struggle to understand some people at times.

Spud83

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

Well a lot of business don't bother opening on Good Friday, even though, as you point out, its not a public holiday. Offices in particular don't seem to open. If the day become a normal day, offices may start opening.

At least they have the choice.

Guramoogah

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

Well a lot of business don't bother opening on Good Friday, even though, as you point out, its not a public holiday. Offices in particular don't seem to open. If the day become a normal day, offices may start opening.

Good Friday, as you state, is not a public holiday but it is a Bank holiday. As such, a lot of businesses cannot trade. Personally, I've no problem with pubs opening on Good Friday provided that no money changes hands. Leave Magners (aka Bulmers, sponsors of the rugby match) pay for all the drink that will be consumed!

Minstrel27

Min wrote: »

I'll stop posting I said more than enough.

Thank you.

Seaneh

the thing is though, a LOT of publicans welcome good friday as a closed day. It's one of the only chanced they get to paint the building, sand, varnish and polish floors and bar tops, carry out general maintenance etc. and because your competitors are also closed you don't loose anything to them and the saturday after good friday tends to be one of the busiest nights of the year, more than making up for the loss on the day before.

Minstrel27

Seaneh wrote: »

the thing is though, a LOT of publicans welcome good friday as a closed day.

While that is true for a lot, it's not true for all. With the ban abolished, what is to stop the publican closing on Good Friday? At least then they would have a choice.

Twin-go

Seaneh wrote: »

the thing is though, a LOT of publicans welcome good friday as a closed day. It's one of the only chanced they get to paint the building, sand, varnish and polish floors and bar tops, carry out general maintenance etc. and because your competitors are also closed you don't loose anything to them and the saturday after good friday tends to be one of the busiest nights of the year, more than making up for the loss on the day before.

Well they could choose close on a Monday or Tuesday when most pubs a very quite anyway and then open again for Good Friday where the are nearly certain to make up for been closed on the Monday.

Twin-go

Min wrote: »

Ok I will not post for 24 hours which is longer than some can go without alcohol as they can't enjoy themselves or socialise without it.

An Easter miracle!!:D

ClutchIt

Saint_Mel wrote: »

That was exactly what I was about to ask? Does this mean that Limerick people are treated different as they are:
a) poorer cos they cant afford Setanta
b) better fans cos they want to see the game
c) bigger alco's cos they cant go a day without booze

(not having a dig at Limerick btw ... I dont have Setanta, cant afford it and couldnt be bothered with it anyway ... and I have no interest in the rugby)

It should be a nation wide implementation imho

Because the game is on in Limerick. Not because of your a,b,c reasons. God.

CoDy1

ClutchIt wrote: »

Because the game is on in Limerick. Not because of your a,b,c reasons.God. .

Shhhh, don't mention him in here...:D

bleg

Party time.

Twin-go

Guramoogah wrote: »

Good Friday, as you state, is not a public holiday but it is a Bank holiday. As such, a lot of businesses cannot trade. Personally, I've no problem with pubs opening on Good Friday provided that no money changes hands. Leave Magners (aka Bulmers, sponsors of the rugby match) pay for all the drink that will be consumed!

It's not a Bank Holiday either. Unlees you're living in the UK.
What difference does it make if no money changes hand.
Every Saturday and Sunday the banks are closed and business's seem to trade just fine.

You seem to be making very little sence with your post.

But if Bulmers wish to sponsor my Drinking I wouldn't turn them down :-)

billybigunz

As predicted. In the next year or so and this archaic law will disappear for ever. Thank you rugby.

johno2

Seaneh wrote: »

the thing is though, a LOT of publicans welcome good friday as a closed day. It's one of the only chanced they get to paint the building, sand, varnish and polish floors and bar tops, carry out general maintenance etc. and because your competitors are also closed you don't loose anything to them and the saturday after good friday tends to be one of the busiest nights of the year, more than making up for the loss on the day before.

I've heard that argument before and I think it's rubbish. Pubs are not obliged to open any day of the year that they don't want to. I know a pub owner who stays closed all day on Sunday because he does very little business if he opens and he likes having the day off. Sometimes he'll do some maintenance work on the pub during sunday. I know another publican who only opens for 2-3 hours each night because he has a farm to run as well and he can't afford staff to run an empty pub. I guarantee you that there will be several pubs closed in Limerick on good friday, because they don't feel like opening up. For the tens of thousands of rugby fans down here it will be great to have an evening of craic and amateur punditry in the pubs after the match.

johno

Any idea what the story is for night clubs and late bars that night seen as the opening hours are until 11.30? Will they have to shut the doors/stop serving for half an hour or can they open up at all?

Vertigo100

shaaane wrote: »

Any idea what the story is for night clubs and late bars that night seen as the opening hours are until 11.30? Will they have to shut the doors/stop serving for half an hour or can they open up at all?

I don't think nightclubs will be open for the same reason they don't open every year at 12. The nighclub exemption actually starts on the Friday and continues to the sat and because the special exemption only goes from 6 to 11.30 I doubt the judge has granted another from 11 to 2am.

Als76

This is great news for Limerick and common sense prevailed. The law on opening pubs on good friday is too old and is not keeping up with modern times and modern laws.

pyramuid man

Really happy to hear this. Will be great atmosphere in the pubs there. Pity I am working

dublin 16 lad

info@williamrua wrote: »

Yeah great burn down all those dirty scumbag headshops because someone died taking magic mushrooms 5 or 6 years ago while they were pissed, but we must have our precious drink, to get s***faced as often as possible.
Drink, drink f****n' drink is responsible for thousands of deaths in this country every year, thousands of physical injury incidents and family abuse and neglect situations. But of course alcohol is a beverage right, part of the wonderful irish tradition.
Bunch of f***** hypocrites.

Although I don't exactly agree with the way you've said it, I sort of see where you're coming from

This thread has shown that we, the people of Ireland, are pro-choice(The majority anyway). If we want to have a drink of alcohol any day of the week we should be allowed to do so. I agree 100% with this mentality

If this is the case, shouldn't the people who want the choice to consume alcohol also be in favour of legalising drugs? Not everyone will consume drugs but shouldn't it be a choice?

Just a thought

bleg

dublin 16 lad wrote: »

Although I don't exactly agree with the way you've said it, I sort of see where you're coming from

This thread has shown that we, the people of Ireland, are pro-choice(The majority anyway). If we want to have a drink of alcohol any day of the week we should be allowed to do so. I agree 100% with this mentality

If this is the case, shouldn't the people who want the choice to consume alcohol also be in favour of legalising drugs? Not everyone will consume drugs but shouldn't it be a choice?

Just a thought

Nah, there are plenty of other countries who have pubs open 365 days of the year but still have roughly the same misuse of drugs legislation.

Were we to invent alcohol in the present day we would probably outlaw it.


Oh and on a point of order, most people supported the move due to the removal of the influence of the Catholic Church from the Laws of Ireland.

rubadub

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres the real issue.

Now we've established that this was motivated completely by money and nothing else.

Was this a secret or something!?! newsflash- Business owner exposed as being secretly interested in maximising profits, -shocking revelation :rolleyes:

orourkeda wrote: »

They wouldnt. Thats my argument. This all about booze and money. Not choice or any anti religious sentiment.

The law is based on religion so of course it is related, if religion was not mentioned the law is just as ridiculous and business owners and their customers would express the same contempt if their retail outlet was forced to shut down. Imagine somebody suggesting all shoe shops must close on the friday before the first Sunday after the first full moon occurring on or after 21 March because a fictional character in a novel they like died that day -utter nonsense.

orourkeda wrote: »

People cant get through the day without booze. Somehow I cant see people getting as exercised over their Big Mac meal

Not comparable, mc donalds is only one place, so people have plenty of alternatives, I am sure mcdonald owners and workers would be more upset than the customers who could just go next door to burger king. If only pubs & offies with a "U" in the title had to close it would be a closer comparison. If ALL butchers and restaurants had to close and supermarkets could not sell meat I am sure there would be concerned owners worried about profits, just like the publicans. And if the law was based on leprechauns or invisible pink unicorns I expect they would bring up the ridiculousness of it too, and question why they should suffer since some people might believe in such things.

My workplace closes on good friday about 75% of the time, I hate having to use up one of my holidays which I would rather take off at my own will.

billybigunz

Jesus was a paedophile.

rubadub

billybigunz wrote: »

Jesus was a paedophile.

So I hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONyLZn0pLI

Gigiwagga

dublin 16 lad wrote: »

Although I don't exactly agree with the way you've said it, I sort of see where you're coming from

This thread has shown that we, the people of Ireland, are pro-choice(The majority anyway). If we want to have a drink of alcohol any day of the week we should be allowed to do so. I agree 100% with this mentality

If this is the case, shouldn't the people who want the choice to consume alcohol also be in favour of legalising drugs? Not everyone will consume drugs but shouldn't it be a choice?

Just a thought

Choice, personal choice. Drinkers (like me) have a choice. I can buy enough alcohol to kill myself ten times over from the local supermarket, legally. But I can't buy a joint of regulated grass. Come June I wont even be able to buy any of the awful s***e the headshop sells. Oh but I can get plastered in a pub on Good Friday, and piss and puke all over the street, looking forward to it.
You'd be kinda wonderin' sometimes why some of the younger adults in society want to disengage with all the hypocrisy this society doles out week in week out.

Chorcai

I'm Irish and don't belive in church/gods, I want to be able to drink when ever I want on what ever day during pub opening hours. Why should I be told by some bunch of holy joes what I can and cannot do. The end is near for the church and it can't come any quicker for this country. Feck off to the Vatican city the lot of ye to enjoy your laws. I don't belive in your gods/church so I shouldn't have to abide by YOUR rules.

grenache

Saint_Mel wrote: »

That was exactly what I was about to ask? Does this mean that Limerick people are treated different as they are:
c) bigger alco's cos they cant go a day without booze

Its not the public that's calling for the pubs to be opened its the publicans who want to make a few bob off the biggest league game of the year.

Chairman Meow

Personally i think its pathetic that its so ingrained on us as a nation that YOU HAVE TO GET SMASHED TO ENJOY YOURSELF!!! that we cant go one ****ing day without drink now.
It was pathetic enough on a normal good friday when youd see people stocking up with crates of beer on a the Thursday like they were preparing for a ****ing nuclear winter.

And this ****e from the publicans

"You couldn't have 30,000 people going around the streets on Good Friday and no place to go to,"

Yeah, heaven forbid they go home to their families. Just goes to show what a ridiculous gin soaked booze-ruled nation of ****ing sheep this country is. Oh and to all the people saying "i dont have to abide by the churches rules man! i drink when i want!!", i guess you wouldnt mind if good fridays status as a public holiday was revoked by the church and you had to go to work like any other Friday, right? Hypocrites.

Twin-go

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Personally i think its pathetic that its so ingrained on us as a nation that YOU HAVE TO GET SMASHED TO ENJOY YOURSELF!!! that we cant go one ****ing day without drink now.
It was pathetic enough on a normal good friday when youd see people stocking up with crates of beer on a the Thursday like they were preparing for a ****ing nuclear winter.

And this ****e from the publicans



Yeah, heaven forbid they go home to their families. Just goes to show what a ridiculous gin soaked booze-ruled nation of ****ing sheep this country is. Oh and to all the people saying "i dont have to abide by the churches rules man! i drink when i want!!", i guess you wouldnt mind if good fridays status as a public holiday was revoked by the church and you had to go to work like any other Friday, right? Hypocrites.

Hang on a second:
1. Good Friday is NOT a Public Holiday, Bank Holiday or any other type of Holiday in this country
2. Since when do the "church" have the right to revoke any national holidays?

For most its not that they have to go out and get "smashed". But, they can do so if they wish. It's called democracy, free will. Do you not trust yourself enough to make up your own mind?
Just because human Jesus died 2000ish years ago we can't drink on Good Friday. It's time we grew up as a nation, grew up with our atitudes on alcohol.
Yes we drink too much, yes we have a problem. Its not going to be fixed by forcing pubs to close their doors twice a year (ironicly one of those days is probably the biggest drinking day of the year).

Publicans should be allowed to open whenever the want and 1 church should not be dictating the laws of the land.

bonerm

Twin-go wrote: »

Hang on a second:
1. Good Friday is NOT a Public Holiday, Bank Holiday or any other type of Holiday in this country

A lot of people forget this. I (like most people I assume?) am being forced to take this day off out of my annual leave. I'd just as soon come in , get paid and keep the holiday for a day of MY choosing..

entropi

Two faced shower of c**ts our government are...they choose to ignore a law because it's gonna bring in some cash for them this year, yet every other year they give you a big "f**k you" because they dont see a need.

If any of them are reading this while slacking in their jobs, here's something to take note of: Not everyone in Ireland is catholic or religious, we dont give a flying f**k about your stupid law (including a large proportion of catholics too) so change it, make it permanent and keep raking in the cash that people usually spend on a friday anyway...

Mochara627

Couldn't care less about the whole thing. It's one of the many stupid laws left over from a time when people gave a ****e about the catholic church and all of them should be scrapped or ignored anyway.

chalkitdown

orourkeda wrote: »

The publicans forced a law change.

The publicans didn't force any law change, they convinced a judge to apply the current law properly.

dvpower

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Personally i think its pathetic that its so ingrained on us as a nation that YOU HAVE TO GET SMASHED TO ENJOY YOURSELF!!! that we cant go one ****ing day without drink now.

Do you drink 363 days of the year? Sounds like you have a drink problem.

Chairman Meow wrote: »

i guess you wouldnt mind if good fridays status as a public holiday was revoked by the church and you had to go to work like any other Friday, right? Hypocrites.

Are you drunk now?

antod

i wonder will the limerick publicans pay there staff double time for working on good friday ,i wont work good friday myself for normal rate.

twinQuins

Hey, how about not claiming this as some great moral victory.

Because, you know...it's not. Only when the same people lobby for headshops to remain open will I believe this isn't drunkards whinging because they can't get a drink.

Min

Good news.

The Gardai are appealing to the high court via the attorney general to stop the pubs opening in Limerick.
The reason being a rugby match is not a special event.

Min

AN Garda Síochána are to seek the advice of the Attorney General about a possible High Court appeal against the decision to allow Limerick city pubs open on Good Friday.

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/gardai-may-challenge-good-friday-pub-ruling-115615.html#ixzz0jHfPe2mh

Looks bad for the pubs and drinkers

A previous ruling stated that "special" meant uncommon or singular.

Munster and Leinster playing each other is not uncommon or a singular event as they will do this again and again and again and again and again till eternity.

Spud83

I thought the judge said he based his decision on the fact the pubs inside the ground can serve around the game and that it was crazy to think that other pubs in the couldn't do the same. He also based it on health and safety issues of having that many people on the street at the same time seemed crazy as well.

The gardai are just being ****in lazy and wanted to have a lazy good friday where everyone sat at home and caused no trouble. They already put the objections forward in the first case and they were obviously ignored.

Still though if they do succeed it might make the government turn around and actually get rid of the law all together. Which would be the best outcome in fairness.

rubadub

antod wrote: »

i wonder will the limerick publicans pay there staff double time for working on good friday ,i wont work good friday myself for normal rate.

You are saying do not work a normal (non-public holiday) friday for the normal rate? how does that work? I'd love to be in your job, demanding double pay on st bridgids day, st peters day etc, feck it I might ask for triple pay on my birthday and double on the fridays before the anniversaries of deaths of family & friends- at least those people actually existed.

If people want the day off they apply for it, just like any other friday, I hate the fact I am forced to take it off. I am usually forced to take 4-5 days off for his birthday too, ridiculous.

Min

Spud83 wrote: »

I thought the judge said he based his decision on the fact the pubs inside the ground can serve around the game and that it was crazy to think that other pubs in the couldn't do the same. He also based it on health and safety issues of having that many people on the street at the same time seemed crazy as well.

The gardai are just being ****in lazy and wanted to have a lazy good friday where everyone sat at home and caused no trouble. They already put the objections forward in the first case and they were obviously ignored.

Still though if they do succeed it might make the government turn around and actually get rid of the law all together. Which would be the best outcome in fairness.

The judge looks to be wrong in why he granted the exemption. The judge focused more on drink rather than the event.
He could only grant the exemption if it was a special event and it does not meet that criteria from a past ruling.

Min

rubadub wrote: »

You are saying do not work a normal (non-public holiday) friday for the normal rate? how does that work? I'd love to be in your job, demanding double pay on st bridgids day, st peters day etc, feck it I might ask for triple pay on my birthday and double on the fridays before the anniversaries of deaths of family & friends- at least those people actually existed.

If people want the day off they apply for it, just like any other friday, I hate the fact I am forced to take it off. I am usually forced to take 4-5 days off for his birthday too, ridiculous.

I think you will find those other people did exist too....

rubadub

Min wrote: »

I think you will find those other people did exist too....

I was talking about fridays, in regards to good friday in particular, many people believe he , i.e. jesus, did not exist, even many clergymen doubt his existence.

Spud83

Min wrote: »

The judge looks to be wrong in why he granted the exemption. The judge focused more on drink rather than the event.
He could only grant the exemption if it was a special event and it does not meet that criteria from a past ruling.

True, and maybe the Gardai will actually take it to the high court. However what I'm saying is if they do and are successful then the pressure will move away from the courts and be targeted towards the government (where it should be anyway), to have the law removed all together.

rubadub

Min wrote: »

The judge looks to be wrong in why he granted the exemption. The judge focused more on drink rather than the event.
He could only grant the exemption if it was a special event and it does not meet that criteria from a past ruling.

There could be an argument of precedent though. They have changed these ridiculous religion based laws for pubs before just for matches.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Broad-welcome-for-Good-Friday.6180066.jp

Solicitor Gearoid McGann, for the publicans, had argued that the court previously granted two similar applications in 2007 for Munster's home matches against Clermont Auvergne and Llanelli Scarlets in the Heineken Cup.

On each occasion pubs in the city and in surrounding areas were allowed to open early as the matches were played at lunchtime on a Sunday.

Misty Chaos

Good Friday will be like another St Patrick's Day if and when this is ever lifted. :pac:

dave 27

I dunno what the big deal is, theres going to be 26000 in the stadium and many more thousands of locals watching it in the pubs because they cant see it at home, so why not let them watch it and enjoy themselves in the process? and make a few million for the local economy in the process..in this recessionary time?