Arsenal -v- Barca, Champions league Q/Final 1st leg

peabutler

kryogen wrote: »

slap yourself in the face

really hard

I think you mean pat yourself on the back, he called it right.

efb

Frisbee wrote: »

Google and choose I'm Feeling Lucky 'thats not sexy', then you'll have problems

Is that Wayne Rooney's latest flame?

Peyton Manning

efb wrote: »

Is that Wayne Rooney's latest flame?

That's cradle snatching by Wazza's standards!

Pro. F

gosplan wrote: »

Yup. He goes towards Fabregas, doesn't actually challenge for the ball but does get his body in the way of a shot 3 yards out. Penalty and red.

I don't get this. Maybe i'm just being thick? but when a defender manages to get his body between the attacker and the ball, and the ball is within playing distance of the defender, my understanding is that that's not a foul. It wasn't like Puyol stuck a leg out to block Fabregas' foot, he got his whole body between Fab and the ball. The way I see it Puyol had won possession of the ball - by positioning himself in front of it - and then Cesc kicked him.

kryogen

peabutler wrote: »

I think you mean pat yourself on the back, he called it right.

you may also slap yourself

once for agreeing drawing a comparison between Ibra and Bednter, and once for that sig

CR 7

The Sparrow wrote: »

Yeah exactly. I completely agree. I just can't see how the ref couldn't give a penalty.

Do most people agree or is there something I'm missing?

I think you're right.

Puyol denies a clear scoring opportunity, even if he did act innocent, I don't see why or how he could appeal it.

Fabregas showed maturity beyond his years tonight, carrying on through injury, and after the yellow, how many players would have lost their heads and gotten sent off. Scoring the penalty was by no means an easy task.

peabutler

kryogen wrote: »

you may also slap yourself

once for agreeing drawing a comparison between Ibra and Bednter, and once for that sig

I think ibra and Bendtner are two players bound to draw comparison. Both are tall (6'4,6'5) strikers, both are Scandinavean, both were playing on opposing teams tonight!!!


Oh and what is wrong with a Sig of one of the hottest prospects in world football.

L'prof

Frisbee wrote: »

Google and choose I'm Feeling Lucky 'thats not sexy', then you'll have problems

Try "Blue waffle", similar instructions

The Sparrow

Pro. F wrote: »

I don't get this. Maybe i'm just being thick? but when a defender manages to get his body between the attacker and the ball, and the ball is within playing distance of the defender, my understanding is that that's not a foul. It wasn't like Puyol stuck a leg out to block Fabregas' foot, he got his whole body between Fab and the ball. The way I see it Puyol had won possession of the ball - by positioning himself in front of it - and then Cesc kicked him.

But he only ended up in front of Fab when the ball was gone and to get there he ran through Fabregas. That is the problem and why it was a penalty.

No problem if you are in a straight race with a player and you get your body in front of him but you can't go through a player and impede his shot to get yourself there.

kryogen

Balotelli? certainly has the potential to be the next Cassano alright


If you fail to see the difference between Ibra and Bednter then fair enough, if you also fail to see the difference between Eto'o and Ibra, i wish you luck also

Headshot

kryogen wrote: »

you may also slap yourself

once for agreeing drawing a comparison between Ibra and Bednter, and once for that sig

People talkin' shi't
They can kiss the back of my hand

kryogen

jasonorr wrote: »

Try "Blue waffle", similar instructions

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

do not google this

just dont

shame on you jason! there is a certain level that we try to keep here

Peyton Manning

Headshot wrote: »

People talkin' shi't
They can kiss the back of my hand

Thanked just for the awesome band reference.

ShamoBuc

Giles is going on about Fabregas 's injury meaning he might still be ok for next week, I thought he was suspended for next week!?!

Bodhisopha

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

I think you're right.

Puyol denies a clear scoring opportunity, even if he did act innocent, I don't see why or how he could appeal it.

Fabregas showed maturity beyond his years tonight, carrying on through injury, and after the yellow, how many players would have lost their heads and gotten sent off. Scoring the penalty was by no means an easy task.

Ah come on now. Maturity because he didn't get sent off, played on injured and blasted a penalty down the middle?

peabutler

kryogen wrote: »

Balotelli? certainly has the potential to be the next Cassano alright


If you fail to see the difference between Ibra and Bednter then fair enough, if you also fail to see the difference between Eto'o and Ibra, i wish you luck also

I don't fail to see the difference but they are certainly comparable. As far as Etoo and Ibra never in a million years would I pay 40 million + E'too for Ibra.


As far as Balotelli goes he might have a bad attitude but he is a top footballer, just needs to get out of Italy.

BERBA

Bill just announced Gallas out for rest of season with torn calf muscle

Dunphy then says "Sol against Messi in return leg , whose your money on Bill?".

Legends are oki doke and dunphy

Frisbee

jasonorr wrote: »

Try "Blue waffle", similar instructions

Let me spin you a yarn.

On a 12 hour train in Thailand in atrocious heat. Mate falls asleep. We take his iPhone and set that picture as his background on his phone after having consumed a few bottles of whiskey.

He wakes up.


Less than impressed... :pac:

The Sparrow

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Giles is going on about Fabregas 's injury meaning he might still be ok for next week, I thought he was suspended for next week!?!

He is.

Headshot

kryogen wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

do not google this

just dont

shame on you jason! there is a certain level that we try to keep here

I googled it

fu'ck you jason

flahavaj

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

Fabregas showed maturity beyond his years tonight, carrying on through injury, and after the yellow, how many players would have lost their heads and gotten sent off. Scoring the penalty was by no means an easy task.

He should have gone off, if he exacerbated his injury after the penalty was scored by coming back on when he was plainly unable to even walk properly then hes a fool and his actions were the opposite of mature IMO. Theres still a Premiership to be fought for.

efb

jasonorr wrote: »

Try "Blue waffle", similar instructions

and I google it, when will I learn! Bart Simpson syndrome...

peabutler

Headshot wrote: »

I googled it

fu'ck you jason

It's Kinda hot though....right

Fuzzy_Dunlop

kryogen wrote: »

you may also slap yourself

once for agreeing drawing a comparison between Ibra and Bednter, and once for that sig

I think describing him as a rich man's Bendtner is a perfect description tbh. They're both tall strikers that can bring the ball down out of the air with ease and link up play....and miss a shed load of easy chances before scoring a few. Ibra is obviously better but it's not a million miles

mayordenis

Whats going on here? are people honestly trying to say that should of been a pen and a red card?

The Sparrow

mayordenis wrote: »

Whats going on here? are people honestly trying to say that should of been a pen and a red card?

Yup. Stonewall peno.

peabutler

^^^^^^
Johnny Giles is finished over at RTE so.


Yes it was a 100% Peno and therefore a red card IMHO.

mayordenis

The Sparrow wrote: »

Yup. Stonewall peno.

peabutler wrote: »

^^^^^^
Johnny Giles is finished over at RTE so.


Yes it was a 100% Peno and therefore a red card IMHO.

I'm shocked,

It was 100% not a penalty ever, and the card will also be rescinded no doubt at all.

kryogen

playa3 wrote: »

I think describing him as a rich man's Bendtner is a perfect description tbh. They're both tall strikers that can bring the ball down out of the air with ease and link up play....and miss a shed load of easy chances before scoring a few. Ibra is obviously better but it's not a million miles

no it actually is a million miles, its more in fact

Ibra does far more then he is given credit for on here

he score plenty of goals, he started this season in record breaking form, he had a ****e december, ok january and february, just getting back into the groove so to speak, and is now back playing and scoring at a high level

he has been doing it for year after year now, Bednter will never be near him in terms of ability or class

I get it, i do, we like strikers who will run around the putch for 70 minutes or so like a headless chicken and chase every lost cause

we dont like strikers who can turn a game in an instant with a flick or a touch that only few players in the world are capable of, sure they dont track back do they, no good at all

Quazzie

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm shocked,

It was 100% not a penalty ever, and the card will also be rescinded no doubt at all.

Can you explain how it wasn't a penalty?

kryogen

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm shocked,

It was 100% not a penalty ever, and the card will also be rescinded no doubt at all.

whatever about its legitimacy, if that card gets appealed and rescinded i will lead a march on UEFA offices.

they didnt overturn Fletch's last season, they have no reason to overturn that

cson

kryogen wrote: »

slap yourself in the face

really hard

Exactly. For even attempting to say Ibra is a rich mans version of The Chosen One, Ibra isn't fit to lace his boots.

flahavaj

kryogen wrote: »

no it actually is a million miles, its more in fact

Ibra does far more then he is given credit for on here

he score plenty of goals, he started this season in record breaking form, he had a ****e december, ok january and february, just getting back into the groove so to speak, and is now back playing and scoring at a high level

he has been doing it for year after year now, Bednter will never be near him in terms of ability or class

I get it, i do, we like strikers who will run around the putch for 70 minutes or so like a headless chicken and chase every lost cause

we dont like strikers who can turn a game in an instant with a flick or a touch that only few players in the world are capable of, sure they dont track back do they, no good at all

I don't think I've heard the Ibra haters criticise him about his workrate tbh, don't know where you've pulled that from? Some kind of high horse you're on maybe but nothing to do with this argument tbh.

kryogen

cson wrote: »

Exactly. For even attempting to say Ibra is a rich mans version of The Chosen One, Ibra isn't fit to lace his boots.

When did ye sign Mame Diouff??

The Sparrow

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm shocked,

It was 100% not a penalty ever, and the card will also be rescinded no doubt at all.

Why do you think that? Did Puyol not run into Fabregas and impede him?

You have to watch Puyol's position from when the cross came in. If he was standing directly behind and Fabregas turned into him, I would agree. But he is nowhere near Fabregas and he sprints from a few yards away and impedes the player.

mayordenis

kryogen wrote: »

whatever about its legitimacy, if that card gets appealed and rescinded i will lead a march on UEFA offices.

they didnt overturn Fletch's last season, they have no reason to overturn that

That's stupid Kryo, every appeal has to be looked at on it's own, that shouldn't of been a red card, and if it's appealed it should and will be overturned.

Now I can't fully remember the Fletcher one, was it a straight red?

Quazzie

mayordenis wrote: »

That's stupid Kryo, every appeal has to be looked at on it's own, that shouldn't of been a red card, and if it's appealed it should and will be overturned.

Now I can't fully remember the Fletcher one, was it a straight red?

Thats twice you've said that now. Can you explain how Puyol did not impede fabregas and prevent a goalscoring opportunity.

kryogen

mayordenis wrote: »

That's stupid Kryo, every appeal has to be looked at on it's own, that shouldn't of been a red card, and if it's appealed it should and will be overturned.

Now I can't fully remember the Fletcher one, was it a straight red?

there is a thing called precident

Fletcher last year, in the semi final was given a straight red when he had clearly got to the ball

Puyol ran into the back of Fabregas, didnt get near the ball

if you cant find evidence to overtutn scenario A you must show consistency and not overturn scenario B

OPENROAD

kryogen wrote: »

whatever about its legitimacy, if that card gets appealed and rescinded i will lead a march on UEFA offices.

they didnt overturn Fletch's last season, they have no reason to overturn that

And I think Cesc would also have a case, though looks like he would have been out

cson

Fletchers red against us last year was a disgraceful injustice tbf.

mayordenis

The Sparrow wrote: »

Why do you think that? Did Puyol not run into Fabregas and impede him?

You have to watch Puyol's position from when the cross came in. If he was standing directly behind and Fabregas turned into him, I would agree. But he is nowhere near Fabregas and he sprints from a few yards away and impedes the player.

Well for me he doesn't impede the player,

Puyol is getting close to the player to make a legitimate challenge, but it's fabregas' own movement that causes the collision, it's his swipe at the ball that results in the leg tangle, that's my view of it, Puyol didn't make a challenge for me.

Bodhisopha

kryogen wrote: »

no it actually is a million miles, its more in fact

Ibra does far more then he is given credit for on here

he score plenty of goals, he started this season in record breaking form, he had a ****e december, ok january and february, just getting back into the groove so to speak, and is now back playing and scoring at a high level

he has been doing it for year after year now, Bednter will never be near him in terms of ability or class

I get it, i do, we like strikers who will run around the putch for 70 minutes or so like a headless chicken and chase every lost cause

we dont like strikers who can turn a game in an instant with a flick or a touch that only few players in the world are capable of, sure they dont track back do they, no good at all

BOOM!

Nail meet head.

Headshot

this yellow card suspension thing is a load of bollix, especially for the final of the CL


load of bull

mayordenis

Quazzie wrote: »

Thats twice you've said that now. Can you explain how Puyol did not impede fabregas and prevent a goalscoring opportunity.

I explained it when I was asked to, to be honest I was really shocked to read the response here saying otherwise,
Regarding the Fletcher "precident" you guys say it's an injustice, why exactly would you not be in favour of football bieng improved by the removal of injustices?

CR 7

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Ah come on now. Maturity because he didn't get sent off, played on injured and blasted a penalty down the middle?

Yes.:rolleyes:
Good work simplifying my post into a sentence you can understand.

flahavaj wrote: »

He should have gone off, if he exacerbated his injury after the penalty was scored by coming back on when he was plainly unable to even walk properly then hes a fool and his actions were the opposite of mature IMO. Theres still a Premiership to be fought for.

If they win next week they have a better chance of winning the CL than the premiership, him staying on helped that. He must have known he could play through the pain without making it worse. It's a question of weighing up the rewards of him potentially being in a position to score a winning goal, over the risk of missing the game at the weekend, which mighn't even matter anymore.

Peyton Manning

Mayordenis, whatever about your opinion of it not being a penalty or red (which is quite baffling considering the luxurious benefit of replays) do you honestly think it will be rescinded given what happened Fletcher last year?

The Sparrow

mayordenis wrote: »

Well for me he doesn't impede the player,

Puyol is getting close to the player to make a legitimate challenge, but it's fabregas' own movement that causes the collision, it's his swipe at the ball that results in the leg tangle, that's my view of it, Puyol didn't make a challenge for me.

But you have to give someone room to move their leg back and take a shot. Fab starts to move his foot back and Puyol is nowhere until he sprints forward into the exact location where Fab is about to shoot. I believe that you can see Puyol leaning into Fabregas but he does it slyly with his hands up so it will look like he has done nothing wrong.

Bottom line is that Puyol sprints towards Fabregas, gets nowhere near the ball but stops Fabregas moving his foot forward to take the shot.

Peno.

racso1975

i knows lads mentioned it on tele but arshavin limping along pitch then running down tunnel looked a bit bogey to me!

Frisbee

Headshot wrote: »

this yellow card suspension thing is a load of bollix, especially for the final of the CL


load of bull

Agreed

Jigga

cson wrote: »

Fletchers red against us last year was a disgraceful injustice tbf.

No it wasn't but at least it gave ye an excuse when Barca raped United in the final

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1177749/Graham-Poll-Forget-final-emotion-ref-Rosetti-spot-red.html