HDR experiment with the buying public.

DaireQuinlan

Morrisseeee wrote: »

There's a FREE HDR program called QTPFSGUI (download here) if you want to try it humberklog. Of course if it works for you and you become very rich then naturally we would have a 'gentlemans agreement' where I would get 20% of the profits

I presume the reciprocal is true also, that if necessary you'll pay 20% of his medical bills, right ?

Morrisseeee

reciprocal

Mmmmm........I'll have my lawyers look into this straight away !

humberklog

Sooooo the red car and the blue car had a race....

I framed an A4 version of honer's pic (with my touch of PP too) and no joy. I did frame 5x7 versions of both Longshanks and Honer's and let them do there thing...5-2 to Longshanks.

I'll pop Longshanks version in A4 into a frame in the morning and see how that goes.

oshead

Sterling scientific work you're doing there.

humberklog

oshead wrote: »

Sterling scientific work you're doing there.

Flat out in the lab Dave. Big Tefal head on me and graphs galore.

Gr1f

OK, i'm gonna throw in my 2 cent.

HDRi images are generated by increasing the dynamic range of an image using several exposures. A minimum of 3 is usually required.

So, this begs the Q. How do you propose to generate anything like a proper HDR image with one flat 8bit image??

HDR images can look terrible or can look amazing. Depending on 1. the source images and, more importantly imho, 2. who is creating the image. Most over-cooked HDRi's are such because the person creating it doesn't know how to use either photoshop or photomatix pro correctly.

I have seen truly stunning results that any viewer would find hard to perceive how the image was created in the first place. I have also seen truly terrible ones that ruined a previously average photo. (most)

The image in question here could probably do with some simple enhancements to remove the washed out flat look to it. That's another thing and NOT HDR :-)

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humberklog

Gr1f wrote: »

OK, i'm gonna throw in my 2 cent.

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No need (unless you just couldn't help yourself).

I'm painfully aware that there is a process to acheive a HDR image. However in my first post, fourth paragraph, I say I'm looking for HDR effect. That's more than enough for the pic, the experiment and way more than enough that my interest would hold.

Gr1f

humberklog wrote: »

Gr1f wrote: »

OK, i'm gonna throw in my 2 cent.

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No need (unless you just couldn't help yourself).

I'm painfully aware that there is a process to acheive a HDR image. However in my first post, fourth paragraph, I say I'm looking for HDR effect. That's more than enough for the pic and way more than enough that my interest would hold.

latter!

I'm aware of your post. Just that HDR 'effect' is not really possible in a technical sense. Exposure blending on the other hand is.

Sorry if i sound pedantic it's just to me using the term HDR is incorrect in this context. It's not as if there aren't alternative terms to use that would/might result in a better image. :-)

humberklog

Gr1f wrote: »

humberklog wrote: »

Sorry if i sound pedantic it's just to me using the term HDR is incorrect in this context. It's not as if there aren't alternative terms to use that would/might result in a better image. :-)

It does and apology accepted.
While there are alternative terms to use that may result in a better image likewise there are many other threads about HDR where your point is wanted and is relevant.

It's just a simple experiment that's all, where the request was taken up by a handful and I'm keeping them updated.

.Longshanks.

humberklog wrote: »

Sooooo the red car and the blue car had a race....

I framed an A4 version of honer's pic (with my touch of PP too) and no joy. I did frame 5x7 versions of both Longshanks and Honer's and let them do there thing...5-2 to Longshanks.

I'll pop Longshanks version in A4 into a frame in the morning and see how that goes.

Just catching up on the progress with this. Intresting results so far

Chorcai

Goin in today to see Homber stuff. Im interested to see how those images printed out.

humberklog

Well thanks to those that hdr'd the images.

Alas Monday rolled in too heavy for me to handle looking at that flipping image any more. It began to sap my strength by the end of last week then I had the whole weekend to really let it get to me in the brain. A heady mix of hangover, hayfever, tetchyness and unco-operative shop locks meant that as soon as I opened up yesterday I gave the pic a good toe in the hole. I couldn't help it, help myself. The image was fecking up the fen shui. I must add that it wasn't the HDR effect but the image composition as a whole. It's general schlock that I just don't want to be associated with and thankfully nor did any customers.

I still keep it in the back row of mounted 6"x4"'s where it can bobble about its daily business. It does get sold but thankfully I don't have to look at it.

Thanks again. My thinking on it over the weekend is: if I've taken a pic that I think could do with a gee-up in the HDR department to make it more appealing to the general public then I've taken a shot outside of my comfort zone and said image should be despatched to the bin.

But trying to sell stuff is a massive-big-big learning curve and this has been an excellent lesson.

Oh and good to meet your good self today Chorcai and indeed AR yesterday.

Chorcai

Have to say I am really impress with your set up, in everyway Simple, clean layout this cost X those cost y and all be it the short time I was there, you gave the customers a bit of banter, myself included. More success to humberklog.

I now have the moocow on my wall !

humberklog

Pop up again Chorcai and we'll go for a few scoops after shutting up shop.

The cow is a fine addition to any household...if it's good enough for ---- then it's good enough for anyone.

Trev M

Humberklog - you should try Topaz adjust ...here is your photo fired through a preset , there are many presets that give a HDR type effect this is a moderate one, it takes 2 seconds and is a lot less complicated than producing and actual HDR

humberklog

Oh Trev the pic really is just wrong for my section of the gallery. It's just not my thing. I tried it out and it just didn't fit. I'm better leaving that sort of stuff to those that do that kind of thing.
While it was hanging I felt uneasy and not just a little embarassed.

Trev M

No worries at all , I understand where your coming from , just thought the plug in might give you an instant way of experimenting - each to their own and all that . Best of luck

Trev M

I deleted it to save you from anymore anguish heh heh I meant well though

smelltheglove

I must pop in to see you sometime too, cant wait to see the set up, people here seem to like it.

On what you said about the comfort zone thing, I generally feel if I need to go back to an image a few times to make it right I'm just never going to like it so generally dont use them at all.

humberklog

I really don't know what a RAW file is. I've seen it mentioned a lot on a lot of threads but I haven't got a scooby what it is.
Either way the original image really isn't worth another attempt. It works fine in 6x4 mounted and stuck welllllll down the back.

Edit in here, someone was looking for a RAW file of the pic.

SMT drop by any time. I'm there personally Mon-Wed.

Heebie

I did a little tweaking.. I think it looks nice.. probably similar to some of the others on here. It might be a bit too red.. not sure.