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Is it possible to pick a 11 that would out pass barca

  • 01-04-2010 12:31am
    #1
    timetogetfit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    I am finding it very hard , the only rule is you cant pick barca players and must pickcurrent players


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  • #2
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,480 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Neither nor there tbh.

    I find this Best <insert here> XI nonsense tiring, it's stuff you'd hear kids saying in the playground.

    Appreciate Barcelona for what they are; don't try and better them with some pipe dream team.

    /rant


  • #3
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    It's what Real Madrid try very often.


  • #4
    dfx-
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    No, because the core of the players know each other for years..growing up with each other. A random group of 11 genius players would be streets behind to start.


  • #5
    timetogetfit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    Not current but how do you think the french world cup winning team would do v them


  • #6
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    meh, id prefer to see the great dutch teams against them

    my team, purely based on ball retention

    Berbatov
    Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov
    Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov
    Berbatov---Berbatov

    the ball sticks to the man


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  • #7
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Dave O' Leary would do it by himself.


  • #8
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    The All Blacks [-4 players]


  • #9
    Reganio 2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    kryogen wrote: »
    meh, id prefer to see the great dutch teams against them

    my team, purely based on ball retention

    Berbatov
    Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov
    Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov--Berbatov
    Berbatov---Berbatov

    the ball sticks to the man

    The ball sticks to him but the lack of work rate and movement in that team astounds me.


  • #10
    beertons
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,175 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    All you need is a team of Gary Breens


  • #11
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Arsenal FC. Almost.


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  • #12
    ziggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


    This post has been deleted.


  • #13
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Yes, its possible, go through there team,

    Valdes is good, somewhere in the top 10 maybe top 7 keepers around.

    Apart from there Dani Alves, I would argue there is better defenders around that you could play in CB and LB.

    In midfield Xavi and Iniesta are brillant, gift footballers, but I wouldnt have Toure/Busquets as the best available. (sp?)

    Messi is trhe best footballer playing at the moment and Ibrahimovic is again, up there with the best in the world but there is better then Pedro/Henry/Bojan available.

    Im not going suggest an alternative 11, Ive just pointed out I think yes its possible, but as stated in other respones what makes the current Barelona squad an exceptional team at passing and retaining the ball is that the whole squad plays a certain way and knows each others possesions and movements.


  • #14
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The Liverpool side of 2007 would do it, they did do it!


  • #15
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    mike65 wrote: »
    The Liverpool side of 2007 would do it, they did do it!

    This is a much better Barcelona team though.


  • #16
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Decent line up to be honest.

    Barcelona: Valdes, Belletti, Marquez, Puyol, Zambrotta, Xavi (Giuly 65), Motta (Iniesta 54), Deco, Messi, Saviola (Gudjohnsen 82), Ronaldinho.
    Subs Not Used: Jorquera, Van Bronckhorst, Thuram, Oleguer.

    Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Finnan, Sissoko (Zenden 84), Alonso, Gerrard, Bellamy (Pennant 80),Kuyt (Crouch 90).
    Subs Not Used: Dudek, Hyypia, Gonzalez, Mascherano.


  • #17
    Jigga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    gavredking wrote: »
    Valdes is good, somewhere in the top 10 maybe top 7 keepers around.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaKlXTgteU


  • #18
    Gillington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    Jigga wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaKlXTgteU

    Lol so does that vid mean he's not!?


  • #19
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    mike65 wrote: »
    Decent line up to be honest.

    Barcelona: Valdes, Belletti, Marquez, Puyol, Zambrotta, Xavi (Giuly 65), Motta (Iniesta 54), Deco, Messi, Saviola (Gudjohnsen 82), Ronaldinho.
    Subs Not Used: Jorquera, Van Bronckhorst, Thuram, Oleguer.

    Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Finnan, Sissoko (Zenden 84), Alonso, Gerrard, Bellamy (Pennant 80),Kuyt (Crouch 90).
    Subs Not Used: Dudek, Hyypia, Gonzalez, Mascherano.

    Barca won nothing that year though and weren't playing football at the standard that they have over the last couple of seasons under Pep, Liverpool did well though. In Paris in '06 Arsenal did very well considering we only had 10 men for 72mins and even at that, I blame Almunia for the goals!


  • #20
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    :D


  • #21
    Jigga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    Gillington wrote: »
    Lol so does that vid mean he's not!?
    He was at his best last night

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onq1gMJFQG0


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  • #22
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,681 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    gavredking wrote: »
    Yes, its possible, go through there team,

    Valdes is good, somewhere in the top 10 maybe top 7 keepers around.

    your being very kind to him


  • #23
    Jigga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    He is the weak-link of an excellent Barca team

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMeYBhGloXk


  • #24
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSLYkWJ0QUA


    See, I can post pointless things aswell.
    He's higher than top 7 I reckon.


  • #25
    eZe^
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Jigga wrote: »
    He is the weak-link of an excellent Barca team

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMeYBhGloXk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwclb7ztywg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQkqUmcj8Gw


    Oh noes, Casillas and Reina are sh*t too...


  • #26
    Jigga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    eZe^ wrote: »
    Oh noes, Casillas and Reina are sh*t too...
    Casillas and Reina have 121 caps for Spain between them (Iker with 102 of them admittedly)

    How many caps has Valdes? He is in the same league as Almunia, Reina would be perfect for Barca with his distribution, big mistake getting rid of him years ago.


  • #27
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Jigga wrote: »
    Casillas and Reina have 121 caps for Spain between them (Iker with 102 of them admittedly)

    How many caps has Valdes? He is in the same league as Almunia, Reina would be perfect for Barca with his distribution, big mistake getting rid of him years ago.

    Valdes is currently playing better than Casillas. Their is strong support for Valdes being number 2 choice in Spain, just so happens that Spain have 3 outstanding goalkeepers. Fabregas doesn't start for Spain, useless?


  • #28
    eZe^
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Jigga wrote: »
    Casillas and Reina have 121 caps for Spain between them (Iker with 102 of them admittedly)

    How many caps has Valdes? He is in the same league as Almunia, Reina would be perfect for Barca with his distribution, big mistake getting rid of him years ago.

    Rofl, how many trophies does Valdes have?

    Barcelona
    Spanish League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
    Spanish Cup: (1) 2008–09
    Spanish Supercup (3): 2005, 2006, 2009
    UEFA Champions League (2): 2005–06, 2008–09
    UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
    FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009


    Individual
    Zamora Trophy: (2) 2004–05, 2008–09

    Incidentally, Casillas has only ever won the Zamora trophy (keeper that concedes the least goals) once. Valdes will be winning it for the third time this year.


    If you honestly think Valdes is in the same category as Almunia then you need your head examined.


  • #29
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    eZe^ wrote: »
    Rofl, how many trophies does Valdes have?

    Barcelona
    Spanish League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
    Spanish Cup: (1) 2008–09
    Spanish Supercup (3): 2005, 2006, 2009
    UEFA Champions League (2): 2005–06, 2008–09
    UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
    FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009


    Individual
    Zamora Trophy: (2) 2004–05, 2008–09

    Incidentally, Casillas has only ever won the Zamora trophy (keeper that concedes the least goals) once. Valdes will be winning it for the third time this year.


    If you honestly think Valdes is in the same category as Almunia then you need your head examined.


    Using trophies isn't a very valid way of proving how good he is. I'm not saying Valdes is bad put I still think he's rightfully 3rd choice keeper for Spain and is a level below the best keepers in the world. He's still miles ahead of Almunia, Almunia wouldn't even make a Top 30 list.


  • #30
    timetogetfit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    mike65 wrote: »
    The Liverpool side of 2007 would do it, they did do it!

    Firstly as has been said already, completely different barca team and they beat them they didnt outpass them


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  • #31
    Amirah Acidic Bluebird
    Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Amirah Acidic Bluebird


    Torres
    Villa
    Ronaldo
    Fabregas
    Alonso
    Pirlo

    --Cole
    Agger
    Terry
    Sagna
    Reina

    The front 3 are a hard pick tbh,Ronaldo rarely passes,Anyone ideas?


  • #32
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    If you're talking pure passing abilities, then I reckon these would give them a good shot...

    ......................Buffon

    Ramos.........Rio..........Carvalho.........Evra

    ..........................Pirlo
    .........Fabregas................Alonso
    .........................Nasri

    ...........Kaka/Robinho....Berbatov


  • #33
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Ugh .... Barca - fap fap fap fap.

    Anyway, this question is silly. Of course you can pick 11 players that can pass the ball as well but they need to be drilled and orgainsed to play like that.


  • #34
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    gosplan wrote: »
    Ugh .... Barca - fap fap fap fap.

    Anyway, this question is silly. Of course you can pick 11 players that can pass the ball as well but they need to be drilled and orgainsed to play like that.

    And it's not just passing, it's getting the ball back - Barca pressed and pressed Arsenal into losing possession time and time again. This comes from being an organised hard working unit


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