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Mumps - its about your testicles you know - an article on unvacinatted young men

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  • 03-04-2010 1:38am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭



    When my son was born there was a lot of controversy about vaccinations and possible side effects. Cut to the chase -the studies were discredited but still lots of boys and men born when it was current didnt get vacinated.

    My son did so the family jewels are protected. If you werent or are not sure it may be time for a GP visit.

    This article was published in Business Week in the USA.


    Executive Health April 02, 2010, 17:00 EST text size: TT
    Unvaccinated Boys at Risk of Mumps-Linked Testicular Problem

    Testicles can swell or atrophy as a result, researchers say







    FRIDAY, April 2 (HealthDay News) -- A new study reports a significant increase in the number of young males with a mumps-related testicle condition called mumps orchitis, which causes one or both testicles to swell and can lead to fertility problems.
    The measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine should be offered to all unvaccinated males aged 15-24, and they should be educated about mumps orchitis, said Irish urologists who reviewed five decades worth of research and statistics.
    After the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1968, the number of cases of mumps orchitis decreased dramatically worldwide. But vaccination rates started to decline about 15 years ago because of a global shortage of the MMR vaccine and media reports that it was linked to autism, inflammatory bowel disease and Crohn's disease.
    Even though subsequent research found no such links, there's still widespread public concern about the MMR vaccine.
    "Boys that did not receive the [MMR vaccine] during the mid-1990s are now collecting in large numbers in secondary schools and colleges, and this provides a perfect breeding ground for the [mumps] virus," Niall Davis, a urology research registrar, said in a news release. "It's estimated that as many as 40 percent of males who develop mumps after puberty can suffer from orchitis. This is of considerable concern as epidemics of mumps orchitis are now being reported more frequently in countries worldwide."
    In their review, Davis and colleagues found that:
    • Up to 50 percent of mumps orchitis patients experience testicular atrophy, a reduction in the size of one or both testicles.
    • Infertility is rare, but reduced fertility occurs in about 13 percent of patients.
    • Three years after recovery, 24 percent of adults and 38 percent of adolescents can still have abnormal sperm counts.
    • The association between mumps orchitis and testicular cancer is weak, with an incidence rate of 0.5 percent.
    The paper appears in the April issue of the urology journal BJUI.
    More information
    The Medlineplus Encyclopedia has more about orchitis.
    -- Robert Preidt
    SOURCE: BJUI, news release, March 30, 2010
    Copyright © 2010 HealthDay. All rights reserved.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    There has been a few cases involving UL students ovwer the last few years. I'm not even sure I am vaccinated against it. Is there a central database somewhere that you can check to see if you were vaccinated or not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    UL -I know it well when the PE bunch were called sweaties.

    I lived in the UK in the 90s and my medical notes were all over the place. I had been fairly certain I had not had the vaccine at school or from my GP -but could not check as the doctor was dead.

    So my son and I got vacinatted at the same time. He got a lollypop and I didnt.

    If you are in doubt and are a student ask the nurse in the college medical centre as they may have access to your records or your GP.

    Mumps in adult males hurts and is a pain in the bollix literally.

    EDIT - my understanding is that some people do not acquire immunity on vaccination in the order of 20% which was why i got vaccinated at the same time my son did. There was no harm recieving a second dose then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Isnt that the one that left 3 dot type scars on your upper left arm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    I think thats BCG and that was for TB I think - you also had polio vaccines.

    The Mumps thing is very serious its like painful swelling as any pain in the nuts is spectacularily painful, reduced fertility and in extreme cases its worse.

    Its very infectuous and as I understand it nowdays mostly adults get affected. 30% of guys who get it as adults get the testicle thing -which lasts up to a month.

    Women who are not immunised can get it too but bottom line is if a woman is pregnant -the baby is at risk.

    For guys its very painful if your nuts are affected. Its preventable by getting a vaccine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Madame Razz


    Being vaccinated against mumps doesn't mean you won't still get them. Yes the chances are slim but it's still possible.

    I had mumps myself despite being vaccinated. Nasty dose.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    1st wrote: »
    My brother got mumps when he was young. It rendered him sterile. He got very bitter as time went on and now he never comes near me or my kids or sends them a card or anything.

    Get vaccinated.


    Thats very sad. It does show how dangerous it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    It is quite sad to think how dangerous it is.

    I got vaccinated against all the usual things.
    I've gotten the chicken pox, german measles (rubella), the mumps 3 times and the whooping cough twice. Rather crappy but still, better to be vaccinated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    and if star-pants can do it and she is a girl -so can you guys :p

    really - I got all my shots and boosters from a very good GP in the UK and she was the first person who discussed mens health issues with me

    i have a woman doctor and they are very thorough about these things moreso then male doctors

    its shocking that the mumps thing is not taught to guys in schools as part of their education -they can teach weird controvercial programmes but dont teach basic health care

    the mmr also protects against measles and rubella (german measles).

    meningitus is another vacine and illness that is really dangerous to small kids. i had a neighbour whose three year old daughter had a leg amputated thru meningitus.

    vaccinations stop you becoming infected and being a carrier who goes around infecting others.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uugh thank fook I had the mumps as a kid. I couldnt imagine how manky it must be for a grown man - The combined pain of the disease and the risk of infertility :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Hey guys,

    a friend of mine got the vaccination and still got mumps...and the swelling in one testicle

    its possible that even if you had the mumps shot you may need a booster shot now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    I was vaccinated when I was a kid but I still got the Mumps when I was nineteen.
    One side of my face swelled out like a balloon overnight and the next day the other side followed. When the doc (female) examined me and dropped the hand for a feel of my balls, I was taken a back initially (thank god she did it without warning as you never know what would have popped up:) ) because I didn't know it can affect your testies. She warned me that if I felt any pain down there to go straight to her surgery. Thankfully I didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    CDfm wrote: »
    the mmr also protects against meningitus and rubella (german measles).these a really dangerous to small kids. i had a neighbour whose three year old daughter had a leg amputated thru meningitus.

    the mmr does NOT protect against meningitis

    MMR stands for Measles, Mumps and Rubella

    the meningitis vaccine is a separate one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    sam34 wrote: »
    the mmr does NOT protect against meningitis

    MMR stands for Measles, Mumps and Rubella

    the meningitis vaccine is a separate one

    take note lads

    thanks sam - i will edit :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm




    some chilling nut swelling epidemics are doing the rounds affecting 16 to 25 year old guys.

    mumps in an adult male is not funny and is a right pain in the bollix

    so check out if you have been vacinated

    there was an outbreak last year in the University of Limerick - and cornwall isjust across in england




    Measles rate in Ireland is second highest in Europe





    eITHNE DONNELLAN Health Correspondent
    IRELAND HAD the second-highest incidence rate of measles in Europe in the first quarter of this year, according to new figures published by the European Centre for Disease Control.
    The highest incidence was in Bulgaria, where 11 children died from measles in the first three months of 2010.
    Some 280 cases of measles were reported in Ireland during the same period and almost one-third of these had to be hospitalised. No deaths were reported here.
    The number of cases of measles in Ireland continued to rise during April and May. At the end of last month, some 355 cases of measles had been reported so far this year, some 15 times more than over the same period last year.
    Dr Suzanne Cotter, public health specialist with the Health Protection Surveillance Centre, said the high figure for Ireland in the first part of this year was accounted for by an outbreak of measles that had been ongoing since about August last year.
    “The outbreak has caused an enormous amount of disease in the community relative to our population size,” she said.
    Dr Cotter said that although the measles outbreak here had been in decline in recent weeks, the fact that there were any cases was of concern when it was preventable with vaccination.
    She said when the cases reported here were assessed, the main reasons behind them were that the individuals had not been vaccinated at all or had only had one dose of the MMR vaccine.
    Two doses are required for maximum protection and these are normally given at age 12 months and age four or five years.
    While vaccination rates in young children have improved over the past few years, they plummeted after the publication in 1998 of a flawed study linking the MMR vaccine with autism.
    The prestigious medical journal the Lancet has since retracted the article and its author Dr Andrew Wakefield was recently struck off the UK medical register.
    Many of the children and teenagers who missed out on vaccinations after that paper was published succumbed to measles during the recent outbreak. Some other cases were in babies too young to have been vaccinated.
    Dr Cotter urged parents to check and make sure their children got two doses of the MMR vaccine. She said they could check with their GP or on their child’s vaccination card and, if they were unsure of their child’s MMR vaccination status, they should arrange to get two doses of the vaccine, which was free.
    “It won’t do any harm,” she added, even if they had already had the vaccine.
    She said some people also missed out on reminder notices about the second jab when they moved house. A high proportion of cases in the recent outbreak were among the Traveller community, who may have moved and missed out on notices about second doses of the vaccine as a result.
    In total, more than 12,000 measles cases were reported from 32 European countries in the first three months of this year, a sixfold increase on the same period last year. More than 10,000 cases were reported in Bulgaria and more than 700 cases in France.
    Ireland was next with nearly 300 cases, but given its population size, the report said it had the second-highest incidence rate in Europe at 6.12 cases per 100,000 population.




    <H1>Mumps campaign in Cornwall after rise in case numbers _48011006_48011003.jpg Mumps is spread by coughs, sneezes and close personal contact


    Health bosses in Cornwall have started a mumps awareness campaign with GPs, schools and colleges after a sharp rise in cases.
    The Health Protection Agency and NHS Cornwall said cases so far this year were close to usual annual levels.
    The number of cases in the first 18 weeks of 2010 reached 134. There were 153 cases in all of 2009.
    The campaign has urged people in the area to check their immunisation history to ensure they are protected.
    Cases 'widespread' Health bosses said the number of cases of the virus had raised concerns that people were missing out on the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine.
    Lee Evans, from the Health Protection Agency in Cornwall, said: "We have seen a sharp rise in the figures this year, and there is evidence that the disease is hitting two age groups the hardest: primary and junior school children, and 16 to 25-year-olds.
    "The situation is widespread throughout the county with hot spots in the large towns, Penzance, Truro and the St Austell/Bodmin areas.
    "That is why we are working closely with the schools and colleges to inform students about mumps and to explain why vaccination is important."
    He added: "It's not just students who are at risk and we would urge everyone up to the age of 25 to consult their family doctors about having two doses of MMR vaccine if they are currently unprotected."
    Mumps is spread by coughs and sneezes and directly through close personal contact.
    Symptoms include swelling on the angle of the jaw on one or both sides of the face.
    Often there are several earlier days of symptoms, which could include fever, headache, tiredness, muscle aches and loss of appetite.

    </H1>


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    Interesting - my son is only 2 and a bit months old but we have to took into all the vaccinations (he has had the BCG and the 2 month ones so far). My parents did not give me the Rubella vaccination so I had to get it as an adult. Thanks for bringing the subject up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I read somewhere that when the vaccination level falls below a certain level the chances of someone who has been vaccinated getting the disease goes up massively. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm or refute this.
    If it's true then **** you all who didn't get the vaccine. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    CathyMoran wrote: »
    Interesting - my son is only 2 and a bit months old but we have to took into all the vaccinations (he has had the BCG and the 2 month ones so far). My parents did not give me the Rubella vaccination so I had to get it as an adult. Thanks for bringing the subject up.

    Well if you are breastfeeding he will get some immunity from you and be intelligient about it I got my kids vacinnated.

    My own view is that its too risky not to vacinate.

    (Must ask the young lad did he have a booster)
    amacachi wrote: »
    I read somewhere that when the vaccination level falls below a certain level the chances of someone who has been vaccinated getting the disease goes up massively. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm or refute this.
    If it's true then **** you all who didn't get the vaccine. :)

    That is totally true. It leads on to what Cathy said. Unvaccinated people are a bit of a health hazard to the rest of us, little kids and pregnant women.

    Mumps vacinnes arent always 100% effective so there is no harm getting a booster.

    And Amacachi now that you know you have no excuse not to- you are responsible for the heath of your own testicles :eek:

    I did -my female GP has hundreds of women and kids as patients (and me) so all I had to do was ask when making an appointment.


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