Birmingham v Liverpool match thread - Mod Warning #432 & #446

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Team I think will line out for today

Reina
Johnston Agger Carra Insua
Kuyt Masch Lucas Babel
Gerrard
Torres

Table as it stands looks like this


Needless to say three points essential for us today

Pot Noodle =

You might eat your words today

Spiritoftheseventies

Pot wrote:

You might eat your words today

wouldn't be the first time

3hn2givr7mx1sc

G'wan the draw if the bookies is open, if not g'wan the Brum!:p

Pot Noodle =

baz2009 wrote: »

G'wan the draw if the bookies is open, if not g'wan the Brum!:p

Thanks:D

rossie1977

liverpools away form in the league, indeed overall has been horrible, 2 away wins since mid september tells its own story, this coming off the back of their best ever away form last year

birmingham have a great home record

i only see one winner here folks

KittyeeTrix

rossie1977 wrote: »

liverpools away form in the league, indeed overall has been horrible, 2 away wins since mid september tells its own story, this coming off the back of their best ever away form last year

birmingham have a great home record

i only see one winner here folks

Seriously, only 2 away wins since Sept....
Didn't realise that, certainly makes today a tough enough prospect!!!

the_monkey

Liverpool are like a black panther waiting to strike ...

mike65

Rafa has yet to beat Brum in 5 years.

Spiritoftheseventies

mike65 wrote: »

Rafa has yet to beat Brum in 5 years.

Believe

Lex Luthor

rossie1977 wrote: »

i only see one winner here folks

as opposed to 2 winners?

Kold

Can see a one all draw but hopefully Brum get 3 points here.

Headshot

surprised this match isnt on tv over here

Kess73

Only a win is good enough today, and for each of the five league games after today.

Anything less and the faint hope of catching City, should they slip up, is gone.

Given the three games that Spurs have next, I am pretty confident that their four point advantage will be wiped out.

Our away form is the big worry though.

flahavaj

Extraodinarily big nmatch for the Scouse.

I expect them to step up and take the win and finally make a decisive move for 4th.

Torres hat trick.

jesus_thats_gre

This not on TV? Bent!

SantryRed

Will be amazed if this isn't a draw.

digme

SantryRed wrote: »

Will be amazed if this isn't a draw.

why:(

flahavaj

digme wrote: »

why:(

I'd imagine he thinks the teams are evenly matched.

digme

flahavaj wrote: »

I'd imagine he thinks the teams are evenly matched.

lol since when were the mighty Liverpool evenly matched with Birmingham.:D

SantryRed

digme wrote: »

lol since when were the mighty Liverpool evenly matched with Birmingham.:D

A Birmingham win is more likely then a Liverpool one.

argosy2006

Possession possession possession,! especially away from home, this stat needs to be increased by 10%
midfield too quick to move ball, need to string more passes together,hold ball for longer periods! take the easy pass to retain ball..if nothing on why play it up to torres , be patient,knock it about ,barcelona like!
will make us better defensively too logically!
we give ball away to cheaply

flahavaj

digme wrote: »

lol since when were the mighty Liverpool evenly matched with Birmingham.:D

They're not. But yer man obviously thinks so.

PHB

This is going to be interesting. Liverpools away form is shocking, Brums is good, Liverpool need this win to capitalise on Spurs ****ing up, with City still plowing away, huge game.

argosy2006

Can see liverpool winning this easily, they have to,and usually perform when its do or die,

SantryRed

argosy2006 wrote: »

Can see liverpool winning this easily, they have to,and usually perform when its do or die,

Heard that so many times this season.

monkey9

I'm gonna go for a two one win for Liverpool.

Lex Luthor

monkey9 wrote: »

I'm gonna go for a two one win for Liverpool.

me too

Podge2k7

Hopefully Liverpool can get the win here but i wouldnt bet in it.

I reckon it will be a close game, 1-0 or 2-1.

monkey9

Liverpool team: Reina Johnson, Carragher, Kryiakos, Insua, Benayoun, Maxi, Gerrard, Lucas, Kuyt, Torres

ilovelamp2000

Team:

Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Gerrard, Rodriguez, Benayoun, Kuyt, Torres.

Subs: Cavalieri, Agger, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Degen, Mascherano.

monkey9

I'm happy with that team, though Lucas in for Masch is a surprise. It's an attacking line up in a game we really need to win.

Aqua is on the bench by the way!!

ilovelamp2000

If Torres isn't on top form we're in difficulty.

Gerrard and Lucas have never played a good game together in CM. I'd love to know why Agger and Mascherano are dropped.

Are our priorities mixed up ?

whatawaster

No mascherano is a huge surprise. He must be injured

Mr Alan

no, i'd imagine he's out cause he is bolloxed from the mammoth performance he put in the other night. very happy wit that line-up.

Nuri Sahin

With no senior LB available in the Europa League, I reckon Agger is being saved for the Benfica game to play LB.

Mascherano has played an awful lot of games in fairness and probably needs a break. In saying that I don't get if that is the case why he wasn't rested in one of our last 2 homes games.

Tough game today. I have a feeling it will be a draw unless Fernando steps us.

SlickRic

Masch always had to be rested for this.

he was THAT immense on Thursday.

i have every faith in Lucas to do a decent job in his absence.

it's the bloke beside him i hope will turn up.

Tusky

Strange that agger and masch are dropped considering they have been playing well, while Lucas has been poor.

monkey9

Birmingham team: Hart Carr Johnson Dann Ridgewell Gardner bowyer Ferguson Fahey Mcfadden Jerome


Subs: Taylor Phillips Michel Benitez Vignal Larsson Parnaby

ilovelamp2000

Tusky wrote: »

Strange that agger and masch are dropped considering they have been playing well, while Lucas has been poor.

Indeed.

jesus_thats_gre

Once Jerome doesn't score a wonder goal again, I reckon we might be ok.

monkey9

The thing about Masch being on the bench is that with us opting for what seems to be a 4-4-2, it looks as if we're gonna be taking the game to Birmingham. And in a more attacking line up, Lucas is a better attacking midfielder than Masch.

If we have a lead to defend late on, Masch will probably come on.

Gillington

I don't seeLiverpool winning this but Birmingham dont score much so I reckon a 1-1 draw.

Tusky

monkey9 wrote: »

Lucas is a better attacking midfielder than Masch..

Lucas - 30 games, 0 goals, 2 assists
Masch - 29 games, 1 goal, 1 assist

flahavaj

Tusky wrote: »

Lucas - 30 games, 0 goals, 2 assists
Masch - 29 games, 1 goal, 1 assist

So simplistic.

There is far more to it than goals and assists.

jaykay74

come on the brum

Tusky

flahavaj wrote: »

So simplistic.

There is far more to it than goals and assists.

I think Mascherano is very disciplined in his positioning. If he is told that he is the DM (which he always is) then he plays deep and doesnt try to get forward. Lucas on the other hand has been given licence to go forward many times (usually when paired with Masch) and has very little to show for it. Masch is faster, is a better dribbler and they are probably equal at passing and shooting. I just dont think we get to see the attacking side of Masch because he is so good at the defensive.

As improved as Lucas has been this season, he desperately needs to improve in regards to scoring and creating goals.

jesus_thats_gre

Tusky wrote: »

Lucas - 30 games, 0 goals, 2 assists
Masch - 29 games, 1 goal, 1 assist

I am really starting to dislike this forum..

ilovelamp2000

flahavaj wrote: »

So simplistic.

There is far more to it than goals and assists.

There certainly is.

But Lucas isn't better than Mascherano defensively or offensively.

monkey9

Tusky wrote: »

I think Mascherano is very disciplined in his positioning. If he is told that he is the DM (which he always is) then he plays deep and doesnt try to get forward. Lucas on the other hand has been given licence to go forward many times (usually when paired with Masch) and has very little to show for it. Masch is faster, is a better dribbler and they are probably equal at passing and shooting. I just dont think we get to see the attacking side of Masch because he is so good at the defensive.

As improved as Lucas has been this season, he desperately needs to improve in regards to scoring and creating goals.

I think Lucas is better at finding that little through ball to Torres or someone else bombing into the box than maybe Masch is. I think his passing is that bit more intricate.

Finical

C'mon you Reds!!!