[US/IRL] 6x11 - "Happily Ever After" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Penn

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blue_steel wrote: »

The electro-magnetism from the fail-safe sent Des (or at least his mind) time travelling. The hit of e-m in this episode sends him into the sideways world (parallel existence / false construct / whatever). There is no connection between the first effect and the second.

Yet. Remember, the first EM happened at the end of Season 2. But we didn't find out what happened to Desmond until Episode 8 of Season 3. Just odd things he'd say or do, weird looks he gave, being able to predict the future. But we had to wait 8 episodes before we found out what really happened to him.

We didn't even have 8 minutes after the second EM in this episode. But already something has happened to Desmond. He was willing to help Widmore, which he wasn't before. Yet he then went with Sayid with no hesitation. Something did happen to Desmond, we just don't know what it is yet.

And I don't think the second EM thing sent him into the sideways world. I just think that sideways Desmond now knows that something is wrong. He's had an epiphany of sorts

NukaCola

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Good episode. Good to see Des back in it. Its also good to see the flashsideways going somewhere at last.

7/10 for me...

jimbling

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blue_steel wrote: »

I’m not going to defend my appreciation of the show here. Check my posts, they are overwhelmingly positive. I can’t understand such defensiveness against any criticism. I wasn’t blown away by the episode. I’m in the minority. Can we move on please?

I'm sorry, maybe I'm mixing you up with one of the other posters who basically gives out about every single episode for the same reasons.

Apologies.
I am just sick of people giving out about the flash sideways... no matter what happens it's the same problems. You'd swear the FS had characters we never met before and it was all completely new.

Psychedelic

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They should have had this happen near the start of the season, we might have cared about the flash sideways then. As good as this episode was, and that the connection between the 2 realities has been revealed, nothing changes the fact that nearly all the flash sideways stuff has been boring.

How is Desmond going to get to show all the Losties what he knows, with only a few episodes left? What is he going to do, give them all a near death experience so they can see the other reality like he did? Maybe Faraday will expose them to electro-magnetism. And what do they do when they all realise there is another reality?

In the episode Flashes Before Your Eyes, are we to assume that when Desmond turned the fail safe key that his consciousness travelled to the sideways reality or in the same reality/timeline?

Artfully Dodgin wrote: »

I could be over analysing here, but have you noticed an emphasis on reflections in this episode? One at the airport when desmond was reading the luggage notice board and again when walking towards the court door?

There's been references to mirrors and reflections in every episode this season.

A Neurotic wrote: »

Actually, proper question occuring to me on second viewing. Are there two separate Desmond consciousnesses? After he blacks out on-island, has Island Desmond simply "seen" what we've seen of the alternate universe, or has his sideways consciousness come back with him? Vice-versa when sideways Desmond faints in the stadium. I'm confused as to how much (each?) Desmond knows exactly in each timeline.

Yeah I've been wondering about that too. It seems that each Desmond knows a bit about the reality he flashed from. All his flashes so far started in the main timeline. I wonder if in the flash sideways reality he will flash to the main timeline.

NukaCola

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jimbling wrote: »

I'm sorry, maybe I'm mixing you up with one of the other posters who basically gives out about every single episode for the same reasons.

Apologies.
I am just sick of people giving out about the flash sideways... no matter what happens it's the same problems. You'd swear the FS had characters we never met before and it was all completely new.

You could just ignore them?

blue_steel

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jimbling wrote: »

I'm sorry, maybe I'm mixing you up with one of the other posters who basically gives out about every single episode for the same reasons.

Apologies.
I am just sick of people giving out about the flash sideways... no matter what happens it's the same problems. You'd swear the FS had characters we never met before and it was all completely new.

No worries. I know its annoying when you loved an episode and others seemed not to. Happened to me with The Package!

podgemonster

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paddyirishman85 wrote: »

I think Desmond might have had some flashes of the future again, similar to after he blew the hatch he was having flashes of the future. I think Desmond knows he had to go with Sayid, and thats why he didn't seem surprised

What i said was Sayid was suprised. but yes desmond knows he must go with him presumably to face the man in black.

Do scottish people say Sláinte also or was it jus ignorance on behalf of the writers?

Psychedelic

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podgemonster wrote: »

Do scottish people say Sláinte also or was it jus ignorance on behalf of the writers?

I thought it was a mistake when I first saw it but after googling the word slainte it looks like the Scottish use the word too.

Penn

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podgemonster wrote: »

What i said was Sayid was suprised. but yes desmond knows he must go with him presumably to face the man in black.

Do scottish people say Sláinte also or was it jus ignorance on behalf of the writers?

Yes, sorry, I meant that's why Desmond didn't seem surprised when Sayid told him he had to go with him, but I agree I could have worded it better.

And I kinda laughed when Desmond said Sláinte, merely because of how he pronounced it. Sounded more like Slantcha

jimbling

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blue_steel wrote: »

No worries. I know its annoying when you loved an episode and others seemed not to. Happened to me with The Package!

ah, its not that at all, each to there own. It's the people who just dont like lost and come in to each thread giving out about the same thing that pisses me off.... normally either FS or No Answers.

And I just read your thread about if the FS is not real then it's a complete waste of time etc etc and saw red
Anyway, as I said, going to stick to discussion from now on.... quit being on the defensive about it.

anotherlostie

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paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Yes, sorry, I meant that's why Desmond didn't seem surprised when Sayid told him he had to go with him, but I agree I could have worded it better.

And I kinda laughed when Desmond said Sláinte, merely because of how he pronounced it. Sounded more like Slantcha

I think Slantcha is how the Scots pronounce it - they have their own Scots Gaelic language. Given that Cusick is (half) Scottish and lived there for some time, I'd expect him to be able to give pointers on something like this.

I also reckon Sayid wanted Zoe to let Widmore know that he had taken Desmond to Flocke, as otherwise it would have made no sense not killing her.

cooker3

So what do people think exactly happened with Desmond in this episode? Did his consciousness travel again? If so why wasn't it as pronounced as in the constant when the 1996 version got completely overtaken, he only felt brief glimpses in the flash-sideways. Is there some difference in the final sideways scene considering this occurred after he had left the giant emf box?

the_monkey

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I haven't read through this thread yet but i will over the next few days.

Amazing episode ... much better then the Richard one despite my mark that i hastilly gave it ...


Finally some link between reality and the alternate reality! - and awesome ending
when Des wanted the flight manifest!

Get the real feeling sh*t's gonna start happenin' !!! and fast!!

Mr Freeze

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the_monkey wrote: »

Get the real feeling sh*t's gonna start happenin' !!! and fast!!

Well it would want to at this late stage!

ixoy

So the sideways are making more sense but does that really mean we still needed to spend so much time in them? Couldn't we still have focused more on the main storyline and get the alt world and decisions idea still in perfectly satisfactorily? So many answers still awaiting us!

me-skywalker

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Who told Widmore about Des surviving the EM blast the first time?

'Consciouss altering love' - 'I saw it brother, I seen something real, I seen the truth.' Charlie to Des in the bar. Definitely makes more sense now on 2nd viewing!!

Pressing the button was always said to 'Save the World' it would because if all them on the island got blasted by the whole EM then they would be aware of the other reality.

Also Juliet saying to Miles 'It worked' in EP1 would mean she saw the other consciousness/reality and thought it worked.

Eloise saying to Des 'it was a violation' A violation of what? Time-travel rules... Reality hoping rules.

Why didn't bad Sayid just kill Widmore's spectacled henchwoman?

Josey Wales

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I'd say that was possible the best episode of Lost yet.

n.catenthusiast

blue_steel wrote: »

So is the upshot of this episode that the sideways world isn’t real?

Not sure they're saying the sideways world isn't real. Rather I think it's going to turn into a return to the theme of the 4th (I think?) series where the Oceanic 6 are living lives off island but choose to go back to right the wrongs they did by leaving.

this would entail sideways characters having to make difficult choices about sacrificing happy existences to somehow return to the original timeline because it is 'right' (e.g. to save loving relationships which otherwise would not happen) - this might be reflected in the conversation between Desmond on Charlie re the importance of choice.

As a theme it would provide some link between this story and that of Jacob & MiB fighting over the capacity of people to choose good over evil. And some decent link between these two stories is much needed....

ToasterSparks

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I really liked that episode. Gave it a 9.

I agree with Sad Professor about Charlie - he seemed like a totally different character, and DM seemed to have forgotten how to act the part like he used to.


Are we to assume that in the ALT timeline, the force (Hell, or the energy, whatever) that has been corked is now loose?

The only thing I can compare it to is the Midas touch - the man that could turn anything to gold, but soon realised that getting what he wanted wasn't all it was cracked up to be - i.e: be careful what you wish for. It seems like everyone in the ALT timeline has the things that they thought they wanted - Desmond having Widmore's approval, Sun and Jin happy together, Jack and his son and solved the father issues, Sayid having Nadia survive, etc.... but other unexpected/unwanted things have happened that negate the positive outcome.

For example, Desmond had Widmore's approval, but at the cost of not having Penny (until his flashes). Sayid has Nadia safe and well, but she's with his brother. Jin and Sun are together, but ... well Sun got shot and was disowned by her father, and Jin nearly died.

Is the battle going to be between MiB and Jacob, or is the battle going to be between the people that want to exist in the ALT timeline, and the people that want to stay in the main timeline?

Eoin

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I thought it was a good episode; possibly the best one of this season. When Charlie put up his hand to the car window, I initially thought it was a nicely done reference to the Looking Glass place, but I was really glad to see more of a connection between the two time lines.

ixoy wrote: »

So the sideways are making more sense but does that really mean we still needed to spend so much time in them? Couldn't we still have focused more on the main storyline and get the alt world and decisions idea still in perfectly satisfactorily? So many answers still awaiting us!

That's my feeling on it as well; hopefully our heads won't be chewed off here for saying it.

Mr. Guappa

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Very good episode I thought.

I figured that the dinner party that Eloise was throwing will see all the islanders brought together. They are all in LA already, and Charlie, Penny, Des and Faraday all have reason to be there now, its hardly much of a stretch for Eloise to organise the rest of them?

Sad Professor

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ixoy wrote: »

So the sideways are making more sense but does that really mean we still needed to spend so much time in them?

Yeah, this is the big problem with the Sideways. No matter how they are ultimately resolved, I don't see any way for them to justify devoting so much time to them. I hope I'm wrong though.

ToasterSparks wrote: »

Are we to assume that in the ALT timeline, the force (Hell, or the energy, whatever) that has been corked is now loose?

Either that or the energy was destroyed by Faraday's bomb, meaning the "cork" is no longer needed.

murpho999

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Meh.....just a filler episode for me!

Only kidding, just amazed to have read through this whole thread and not see the word 'filler' that has been posted every week since 2004, being mentioned.

Absolutely brilliant episode. Des is a great character.

So much in this episode to discuss.

It seems to me that Des connected with his alt-timeline when he regained conciousness on the island but collapsed in the stadium.

I think Sayeed let Tina Fey go as Flocke wants Widmore to know what happened.

This episode proves that the alt-timeline was always planned and is hugely significant to the whole plot and not just 'filler'.

As for Eloise, no idea as to how she seems to know about both timelines, but I'm sure that will be explained. I got the impression that Charles Widmore doesn't seem to be fully in the loop (could be wrong there).

People complaining about DM's portrayal of Charlie being completely different to that of Island Charlie, please don't forget that island Charlie is clean of drugs, and the alt timeline is not. Mind altering drugs do have a major effect on your behaviour, so he played it just right for me.

Meetings with Claire seem to be significant......wonder if more of Kate's story will be revealed.

Des asking for the manifest is brilliant, can't wait to see what he does with it.

Can someone please name a major sports staduim, anywhere in the world that you can just stroll into at night for a jogging session without getting arrested? Is Croke Park open for joggers tonight?

Des, looked like he went with Sayeed as it all seemed to be part of a plan.

I just can't wait for the rest of the show. Brilliant stuff.

Star Lord

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I think I just heard a sound, it was the sound of the sideways-timeline clicking into place in everyones heads!

jimbling wrote: »

I dont think this is the case. I would say the alt-timeline will be everyones fate or no-ones fate. One of the timelines has to be removed somehow.
The only logical things I can think of is:
1) Something like a "Wake-Up" in the matrix as someone else mentioned. This is obviously hinted towards by the ending. I think this will lead to 2 becoming possible.
2) Time-Travel, prevent the alt-timeline from happening. I think this will coincide with the stopping of MIB.

I think that Desmonds sacrifice is to set off a huge electromagnetic charge again ("I need to know that he can do it again" - Widmore) in order to either destroy MIB/Smokey/Flocke, and heal the split timelines, or to actually deliberately cause the events which lead to the detonation of 'Jughead'.

A Neurotic wrote: »

I don't understand why the others in the sideways timeline haven't already "felt it".

If Claire and and Charlier could trigger "awakenings" in Charlie and Des, respectively, then why haven't Sawyer/Kate, Jin/Sun, Sayid/Jin, Jack/Locke done the same to each other?

It took a severe system shock AND seeing something that was almost the same as the original timeline for both Charlie and Des to trigger the realisation, so I'm sure it'll be the same for the others.

I was wavering between 9 and 10, but gave it 9 ultimately. As much a revelation moment as Constant/Ab Aeterno, but I feel that my appreciation of this episode will grow later. That plus I'm hating Sayid being on Flockes side, and am hoping Des will be able to snap him out of the back from the dead funk he's in! (Not gonna happen, but I like Sayid!)

Jay Ru

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murpho999 wrote: »

I think Sayeed let Tina Fey go as Flocke wants Widmore to know what happened.

As for Eloise, no idea as to how she seems to know about both timelines, but I'm sure that will be explained. I got the impression that Charles Widmore doesn't seem to be fully in the loop (could be wrong there).

Can someone please name a major sports staduim, anywhere in the world that you can just stroll into at night for a jogging session without getting arrested? Is Croke Park open for joggers tonight?

Des, looked like he went with Sayeed as it all seemed to be part of a plan.

I'd imagine Widmore wud of figured out who had Des without Tina's help.

I think Widmore is on par with Eloise when it come to the island and the alt time line. He still has an interest in the black rock, then there the painting in his office. And don't forget that Widmore was on the island before the nuke went off so surely he has to remember it (the island that is)

Its prob was college stadium, faculty and students often use them to work out like that.

me-skywalker

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murpho999 wrote: »

This episode proves that the alt-timeline was always planned and is hugely significant to the whole plot and not just 'filler'.

Really? Im still wary as to the extent, say during season 1 and 2 did they know about this alt-reality? We'll see.

murpho999

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me-skywalker wrote: »

Really? Im still wary as to the extent, say during season 1 and 2 did they know about this alt-reality? We'll see.

I'm not saying that they knew for definite 100% about the alt timeline but more that the timeline this season was entirely relevant, key to the plot and not just filler.

Now for something else, not related to this discussion and may or may have not been discussed elsewhere on Lost forums?

In relation to Claire, who I think is very important to the whole plot. You may remember in Season 1 in her flashback, she went to some psychic guy and he told her that she should not have the baby under any circumstances. Was never really followed up on.

But I'm wondering if either with all the time travel that Man in Black is Erin's father or more likely that in the Alt-timeline MIB has escaped the island as her baby (she is still pregnant in alt timeline) and the timeline needs to be reset to get him back on the island. I could be way off the mark here but just a theory that has been in my head for the last couple of weeks. Whaddya think ...mad or not?

dudeitshurley

murpho999 wrote: »

But I'm wondering if either with all the time travel that Man in Black is Erin's father or more likely that in the Alt-timeline MIB has escaped the island as her baby (she is still pregnant in alt timeline) and the timeline needs to be reset to get him back on the island. I could be way off the mark here but just a theory that has been in my head for the last couple of weeks. Whaddya think ...mad or not?

In the alt-timeline the island is apparently under water. Claire flew from australia like the rest of them. We're not even sure MIB/Jacob exist in the alt-timeline (are we?). it's a safe bet but we've seen nothing to indicate it. Or any reason to believe he would need to escape a submerged island in claires womb!!! :eek:

tok9

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I'm just wondering now why does Desmond ask for the manifest of 815? Why is he only showing those people? For example Faraday wasn't on the plane but he "felt" it so why is he only picking that select group?

Chardee MacDennis

me-skywalker wrote: »

Really? Im still wary as to the extent, say during season 1 and 2 did they know about this alt-reality? We'll see.

but really what does that matter? are you not entertained? if no then stop watching....

Chardee MacDennis

tok9 wrote: »

I'm just wondering now why does Desmond ask for the manifest of 815? Why is he only showing those people? For example Faraday wasn't on the plane but he "felt" it so why is he only picking that select group?

maybe it was something to do with jacks comments about how they were all together on the plane and now in the same hospital together and it was a bit coincidental...

opinion guy

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Wow this was ALL KINDS OF AWESOME!!!!

Hyzepher wrote: »

Loved the way Des was given a button to press when he was getting the MRI.

Well thats what they do when you get an mri. i don' t think there was any great significance to it.

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

And I kinda laughed when Desmond said Sláinte, merely because of how he pronounced it. Sounded more like Slantcha

actually i thought they way des said was somewhere between the irish and scottish pronounciations

dudeitshurley wrote: »

We're not even sure MIB/Jacob exist in the alt-timeline (are we?). it's a safe bet but we've seen nothing to indicate it.

Completely agree.


Just this ep was awesome. Thou Des did seem slightly insane at the end in both realities. In the alt one he seemd like he was going on a mad spree of near death experience the losties. In the island timeline - wow when he went with sayid I had two thoughts:
a) - the machine fried his brain
b) he knows something and has a plan

so this episdoe has put two different theories in my head.
a) perhaps des wants to help mib to destroy the island reality and only the alt reality will be left where everyone is happier(ish). i tihnk on balance when he met penny in the new reality he wants that future. After all in that reality - he was never on the island. widmore liked him. he didn't get shot by ben. i think he now wants to destroy the island reality to be with penny in the alternative one

b) eloise and widmore clearly know something and are attempting to pull strings of some sort. What if....the alt reality is actually the real reality and the island reality is the 'fake' one because of something eloise and widmore did in the 'real' one to some end or other. i mean lets be honest here - the island reality doesn't really make any sense. dead people are walking around all over the place. magic mirror that spies on you. a guy who doesn't age. there's a smoke monster. time-travelling. if you need to find someone u can and will randomly bump into them in 10 mins just by walking aimlessly into the jungle - except if you are actually looking for them. people have psychic powers etc etc (hurley and miles communing with the dead etc). Makes ALOT more sense to me if the "alternate" reality is in fact the real reality


Oh and I'm delighted to see daniel back after I was wondering where he was last week

opinion guy

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Can we have a sticky in the Lost forum entitled "Bitching about the alternative timeline" so we don't have to filter thru pages of it in each episode thread please since people don't seem to get that not everyone likes reading the same whinge every week ?

Ninja edit: Yes I am being sarcastic but also no I'm not

Spiritoftheseventies

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"Not Pennys Boat". Its one of those crucial lines really, isnt it? Btw anyway catch Desmond saying "Slainte" to Widmore over drinks in his office.

Chardee MacDennis

opinion guy wrote: »

Well thats what they do when you get an mri. i don' t think there was any great significance to it.

i didnt get a panic button when I had an MRI it was another line that triggered Des' memories of the island, it wasnt put in because it's SOP!

jimbling

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murpho999 wrote: »

As for Eloise, no idea as to how she seems to know about both timelines, but I'm sure that will be explained. I got the impression that Charles Widmore doesn't seem to be fully in the loop (could be wrong there).

Ya, I got that feeling when watching it as well. I don't think Widmore realises that it's an alternate timeline. It doesnt mean he doesnt' know anything about the island / black rock etc, he can still have all those interests without knowing.

Jay Ru wrote: »

I think Widmore is on par with Eloise when it come to the island and the alt time line. He still has an interest in the black rock, then there the painting in his office. And don't forget that Widmore was on the island before the nuke went off so surely he has to remember it (the island that is)

Yes, but that makes no difference. Ben was on island, Charlotte was on island in the FS, but they still don't know they're in an alternate world.

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

That plus I'm hating Sayid being on Flockes side, and am hoping Des will be able to snap him out of the back from the dead funk he's in! (Not gonna happen, but I like Sayid!)

:eek: :eek:
Honestly, one of the best things about the show. Sayid is finally just a complete bad ass..... and an brilliant one at that. About time I say.

tok9 wrote: »

I'm just wondering now why does Desmond ask for the manifest of 815? Why is he only showing those people? For example Faraday wasn't on the plane but he "felt" it so why is he only picking that select group?

You know, that didnt dawn on me at all. I forgot that alt desmond has no knowledge that he has lived such an intertwined life with the rest of the passengers on the flight. Or does he? Perhaps the experience has given him more knowledge than we were shown.

Hyzepher

One thing that occurred to me - not sure if it's relevant - is that the alt timeline is 2004 and the current timeline is 2007 yet Des was able to "see" the Not Penny's Boat imagery before it actually happened in the real timeline.

Charlie dies about 100+ days in while they are only a few days back off the plane on the Alt timeline. If this is significant then I think that it proves that the Alt timeline is a false existance and not merely an alternative path in their lives.

blue_steel

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tok9 wrote: »

I'm just wondering now why does Desmond ask for the manifest of 815? Why is he only showing those people? For example Faraday wasn't on the plane but he "felt" it so why is he only picking that select group?

Exactly. Like a lot of the sideways stuff it felt shoe horned in to me.
And it's funny how Charlie didn't notice the amazing blonde from his vision was on the same plane as him!
Also Jack is working in the hospital a few hours after losing his fathers body and getting off a long haul flight! Wouldn't like to be the owner of the spine he was operating on that morning
Seriously though these sort of holes are what happens when you throw dozens of storylines into the air at the same time. "Sometimes less is more" is obviously not a phrase Darlton are familiar with.

uncleoswald

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Enjoyed it.

Good to have Charlie back. As said elsewhere he was different but I presume he was been directed that way. The slightly goofy old Charlie wouldn't have fitted this story so in the alt timeline he is simply a different person, probably on account of having more fame. Disturbingly I have been singing "You All Everybody" to myself.

Not really sure what's going on at the end, does alt Des have a total understanding of what is going on and knowledge of the OT? I presume by asking for the flight details he does otherwise how will he know which passengers to track down?

Why did Sayid take Desmond? Did he have time to go back to MiB and tell him what 'the package' was and was ordered to go back for him? Or is he acting on his own?

Unlike most people, I still think the most dramatically satisfying aspects of this season will continue to happen in the Flashsideways. I never doubted that the Flashsideways would be relevant but to be honest it didn't really bother me either way. The characters off island behave and feel more real and I think its on-island that you find the real filler stuff as the writers have an endgame (which I'm confident will be great) but too much time to fill until then. The on-island stuff now is like an entirely different show to Season 1 & 2 Lost, horribly disjointed mumbo-jumbo, some of it is Phantom Menace bad. 'The Package' improved the on-island stuff a little though.

So the show is either going to be defined by 'Love and Faith' or pseudoscience, great choice :rolleyes:.

deman

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BastardPrince wrote: »

i didnt get a panic button when I had an MRI it was another line that triggered Des' memories of the island, it wasnt put in because it's SOP!

Me neither. I just a set of headphones and given a choice of radio stations.

Back to Des' sacrifice...

I believe Desmond's sacrifice to be everything he knows and loves off-island. He will stay on the island and be the "new" Jacob.

Penn

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Hyzepher wrote: »

One thing that occurred to me - not sure if it's relevant - is that the alt timeline is 2004 and the current timeline is 2007 yet Des was able to "see" the Not Penny's Boat imagery before it actually happened in the real timeline.

I thought about this before with Jack's appendix scar. The only thing I can think of is that Jack had the scar before Jughead was detonated. Same way Desmond saw Charlie drown before The Incident which caused the alt timeline. So even though the alt timeline is back to 2004, this stuff happened to them before the alt timeline was created.

One thing that did confuse me was Jack in the hospital in this episode. Desmond gets off the plane, goes to Widmore's office, goes get Charlie, crashes and ends up in hospital. So this would just be a few hours. Yet when he's in hospital, Jack is working there. But Jack had to wait around the airport because they lost his father's dead body, and even if that only took an hour, his father is dead. Surely he shouldn't have been working in the hospital then?

Jay Ru

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@ Deman Why wud he need to be able to survive an electro magnetic event to do that?

cjt156

murpho999 wrote: »

In relation to Claire, who I think is very important to the whole plot. You may remember in Season 1 in her flashback, she went to some psychic guy and he told her that she should not have the baby under any circumstances. Was never really followed up on.

The psychic said Clare had to raise the baby herself, that it was vital that no one else would raise him.

Penn

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Jay Ru wrote: »

@ Deman Why wud he need to be able to survive an electro magnetic event to do that?

Widmore said he needed to know if Desmond could survive an EM event again, and Widmore seems to be trying to stop MIB, so they must need Desmond to be able to survive one to stop MIB

Actually, maybe MIB can control electro magnetism, explaining how he can move things as the Black Smoke, and also how he popped Ben's ankle restraint just by moving his hand. Maybe it means that he won't be able to hurt Desmond

pickarooney

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That damn bloody episode was quite bloody damn good. There was one bloody thing that damn bloody annoyed me, but I'll be bloody damned if I can remember what it bloody was.

Bob Z

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pickarooney wrote: »

That damn bloody episode was quite bloody damn good. There was one bloody thing that damn bloody annoyed me, but I'll be bloody damned if I can remember what it bloody was.

Well can you give us a clue?


:cool:

Penn

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Bob Z wrote: »

Well can you give us a clue?


:cool:

It'd want to be a bloody damn good clue

Twin-go

Great episode:

Question:

How did Syiad get through the Electromagnetic fence that Surrounds Withmores group?

I'm thinking desmond is the only person that can get close enough to Flocke/MiB to do damage with an electromagnetic field.

opinion guy

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BastardPrince wrote: »

i didnt get a panic button when I had an MRI it was another line that triggered Des' memories of the island, it wasnt put in because it's SOP!

deman wrote: »

Me neither. I just a set of headphones and given a choice of radio stations.

Back to Des' sacrifice...

I believe Desmond's sacrifice to be everything he knows and loves off-island. He will stay on the island and be the "new" Jacob.

Well you both should have been given a panic button. IT is SOP.

Sad Professor

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Twin-go wrote: »

How did Syiad get through the Electromagnetic fence that Surrounds Withmores group?

Good catch. But probably the same way he did before. Climbed over it.