Taxing a car I bought that's out of tax since February?

Col200sx

How do I go about this?

I bought the car end March, tax ran out end of February, and I just got the logbook in the post today.

Do I just bring the logbook to the motor tax office and pay from the date I bought car, or am I charged for the unpaid expired tax?

Sorry for asking, but no answer in the tax office, I can only imagine due to the work to rule that's happening:(

Just go into the Guards and get in signed off the road for March. Its the section at the bottom of the tax renewal form.

Paulyh

you just pay from the date on the registration cert (log book).

Col200sx

Kendall Mammoth Tween wrote: »

Just go into the Guards and get in signed off the road for March. Its the section at the bottom of the tax renewal form.

But I don't have a tax renewal form? I've only got the new logbook, and old tax disc that ran out in February?

Paulyh wrote: »

you just pay from the date on the registration cert (log book).

The date of change of ownership was 27th March 2010, so do I just pay April's tax onwards?

Anan1

You're only liable from the start of the month in which you bought the car, ie March.

Toulouse

You have to go into your tax office or Garda Station and pick up the appropriate form. Get it stamped then back to the tax office.

This might shed some light http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/services/motortax/procedures.html

Paulyh

you can pick up a form in any garda station, or download it from motortax.ie.

Col200sx

Col200sx wrote: »

Do I just bring the logbook to the motor tax office and pay from the date I bought car, or am I charged for the unpaid expired tax?

Yep, you will need to fill in the form too though, available on the net or in the motot office, you are not charged for the period you did not own the car

Kendall Mammoth Tween wrote: »

Just go into the Guards and get in signed off the road for March. Its the section at the bottom of the tax renewal form.

If he bought the car towards the end of March even if he didn't use it until April he cannot make a declaration that the car was off the road for the month of March. He didn't own the car for the full month.

Paulyh wrote: »

you just pay from the date on the registration cert (log book).

100% correct.

Paulyh

Toulouse wrote: »

You have to go into your tax office or Garda Station and pick up the appropriate form. Get it stamped then back to the tax office.

you only need it stamped if you are declaring it off the road though

Col200sx

Col200sx wrote: »

But I don't have a tax renewal form? I've only got the new logbook, and old tax disc that ran out in February?

Its this form:https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/pdf/RF100A_en.pdf

You just fill out the details. Is the date on the log book for you owning the car in March or April? If its in April you don't need to get it signed off for march. If the date is March you will have to pay back tax unless you get it signed off the road.

Col200sx

Thanks guys, so since I bought the car 27th March, and tax expired end of February, I'm effectively paying the tax from start of March, so it won't be out of tax at all then?

Have downloaded that form, thanks for the help:)

Paulyh

Col200sx wrote: »

Thanks guys, so since I bought the car 27th March, and tax expired end of February, I'm effectively paying the tax from start of March, so it won't be out of tax at all then?

Have downloaded that form, thanks for the help:)

yes, you pay for the full month that you registered your in i.e. March.
but the march month will be an arrears month so the car will be up for renewal next April (if taxing for a year).

dearg lady

Just to make the point again that if you didn't use the car til April, you're only liable from April, BUT you have to get the end of that form you downloaded signed and stamped by the gardai an fill in that it was off the road for Mar.

I just hate to see people pay more than they have to!

You can declare that you didn't drive it on the road for the 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31st March. That would save you the months tax. As said you need a guard to stamp it.

dearg lady

RoverJames wrote: »

You can declare that you didn't drive it on the road for the 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31st March. That would save you the months tax. As said you need a guard to stamp it.

ya see the problem with motor tax is it only runs month to months, ie you can't pay for two weeks or one week if that's all you own it for. So when a person buys a car on the 27th of a month, and the tax has previously run out, they are in fact liable for teh full months tax, in OPs case, this is March.

However if they don't drive it during the last few days of the month, the person can declare it and not have to pay for that month. The period that must be certified is the full month as tax can only be paid for a month. A bit ridiculous I think, but that's how it;s set up.

The OP is only owned the car since the 27th, they can only declare it hasn't been used for the period 27th to the 31st, I have done this before and the guard had no problem stamping it

If they don't do this they will have to pay for the full month

The OP cannot declare the car off the road for March as they didn't own it from until the 27th.

dearg lady

RoverJames wrote: »

The OP is only owned the car since the 27th, they can only declare it hasn't been used for the period 27th to the 31st, I have done this before and the guard had no problem stamping it

If they don't do this they will have to pay for the full month

the problem would lie with the motor tax office, not the gardai, but it depends on the person who receives the form. some might leave it go, some might not.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one

There is nothing to disagree on to be honest
Person in the tax office will want OP tp pay for March as they bought car on the 27th, if the OP has it declared not used from the 27th to the 31st then the tax office person won't expect them to pay.

It's not a case of the tax office person leaving it go or not, they have f all choice if the declaration form is complete and stamped. Anyway the OP hasn't said that they did not use the car from the 27th to the 31st so it's a chat about nothing.

dearg lady

RoverJames wrote: »

There is nothing to disagree on to be honest
Person in the tax office will want OP tp pay for March as they bought car on the 27th, if the OP has it declared not used from the 27th to the 31st then the tax office person won't expect them to pay.

It's not a case of the tax office person leaving it go or not, they have f all choice if the declaration form is complete and stamped. Anyway the OP hasn't said that they did not use the car from the 27th to the 31st so it's a chat about nothing.

well having worked in a tax office for a few years I can tell you this is not always the case. We were xpected to have a form stamped for the full month.

dearg lady

dearg lady wrote: »

well having worked in a tax office for a few years I can tell you this is not always the case. We were xpected to have a form stamped for the full month.

So when someone buys a car on the 30th of March and doesn't use it until the 1st April and they mosey along to a tax office with a stamped form from the guards declaring they did not use the car on the road on the 30th or the 31st this would not suffice ?

I am so glad the folks who served me in the Cork Motor Tax Office did not share your view as if they did, they and their superiors would have been put firmly in their place.

dearg lady

RoverJames wrote: »

So when someone buys a car on the 30th of March and doesn't use it until the 1st April and they mosey along to a tax office with a stamped form from the guards declaring they did not use the car on the road on the 30th or the 31st this would not suffice ?

I am so glad the folks who served me in the Cork Motor Tax Office did not share your view as if they did, they and their superiors would have been put firmly in their place.

:rolleyes:
yes, that's what I said, I also said it's ridiculous, I just don't want OP to make a trip to then be told what they have isn't sufficient. I really couldn't care less what you think.

Op, maybe a call to your local tax office to confirm what they require as there is obviously some discrepancies between offices

MagicSean

The Op can get it stamped off the road for March and only have to pay from April. But if he drove it in March and he declares it off the road for that month he is committing an offence.

RoverJames

RoverJames wrote: »

So when someone buys a car on the 30th of March and doesn't use it until the 1st April and they mosey along to a tax office with a stamped form from the guards declaring they did not use the car on the road on the 30th or the 31st this would not suffice ?

I am so glad the folks who served me in the Cork Motor Tax Office did not share your view as if they did, they and their superiors would have been put firmly in their place.

As I said just sign if off for the month. The guard wont know or care when you bought it or if it was driven they never check and unless you were stopped they wont know anyway and the person in the tax office will just see its signed off and tax it from April. Id sign it off for march if I drove it or not.

Col200sx

dearg lady wrote: »

Op, maybe a call to your local tax office to confirm what they require as there is obviously some discrepancies between offices

I would if I could. But can't get through, I think they're on a work to rule, that's why I asked here, it's last sentence on first post:)

k_mac wrote: »

But if he drove it in March and he declares it off the road for that month he is committing an offence.

I drove it in March, and I don't want to commit an offence. I'm a fully legal driver, and will continue to be so.

To clarify. I bought car March 27th, changed my insurance there and then, and have driven it daily since then. Tax expired end of February. So I suppose I'll have to pay for March so. I'd just wondered would they allow me to pay from April 1st.

dearg lady

dearg lady wrote: »

Op, maybe a call to your local tax office to confirm what they require as there is obviously some discrepancies between offices

The discrepency would be in the standard of staff.

dearg lady

RoverJames wrote: »

The discrepency would be in the standard of staff.

I don't appreciate the veiled insult or taking the thread off topic. I'm doing my best to help the OP by giving all the information, nothing more, nothing less.

dearg lady

dearg lady wrote: »

I don't appreciate the veiled insult or taking the thread off topic. I'm doing my best to help the OP by giving all the information, nothing more, nothing less.

I was referring to whoever advised counter staff to have a form stamped for the full month when some of the month was a previous owner period, it was not a veiled dig at yourself The report post function is handy at times like this though, it avoids back seat modding etc.

dearg lady wrote: »

well having worked in a tax office for a few years I can tell you this is not always the case. We were xpected to have a form stamped for the full month.

biko

I taxed a car today I bought 28th March (just got log book back from Shannon).
Went in to tax office with form RF100A and they told me to get it stamped at the Garda as otherwise I'd have to pay from March 1st.
Went to the Garda, they stamped it no probs, back to the tax office and paid from April first. Yay, a few days free March motoring for me

mickdw

Roverjames is correct as far as I have ever known.

The OP seems to want to do the right thing though & in this case having driven the car in march, he will have to tax it for march.

samsemtex

biko wrote: »

I taxed a car today I bought 28th March (just got log book back from Shannon).
Went in to tax office with form RF100A and they told me to get it stamped at the Garda as otherwise I'd have to pay from March 1st.
Went to the Garda, they stamped it no probs, back to the tax office and paid from April first. Yay, a few days free March motoring for me

k_mac wrote: »

But if he drove it in March and he declares it off the road for that month he is committing an offence.

:eek::eek::eek:

but...you committed an offence! Your crime is disgusting.