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Malcolm McLaren, RIP

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    #2
    tbh
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    aw crap :(

    see ya later, innovator.


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    #3
    [Deleted User]
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    Simon Cowell and Louis Walsh must be devastated. Never liked him. He destroyed punk by marketing and merchandising.

    May God have mercy.


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    Dudess
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    Wow. Not a major fan but there are still some things he did that I admire, there's no doubt he made a significant mark, if sometimes just as a professional controversialist.

    Early in llife for him to pass on too...

    Heh, I like how he would have tried to implement, if mayor of London, the serving of alcohol in libraries. :pac:


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    showry
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    He was a pain in the arse but he was interesting. I always preferred him to Lydon. Duck Rock is still a brilliant album.


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    fryup
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    RIP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt6Co7EMNCU


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    mike65
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    Just saw it, one of the great spoofers and shakers of our time. Nice to see Double Dutch posted, my fav Malcolm track.


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    Caveat
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    Didn't like him but the world was better with him in it.

    We need controversial people, shameless self publicist, bull****ter, mythmaker and arrogant though he was, he was also bold, creative, shrewd, highly observant and intelligent.

    Don't think he ever shafted Lydon to the extent that Lydon would have us believe either.


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    garbanzo
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    I am a total fan of his album "Paris" from the 1990's. An amazing soundtrack to/for an amazing city. Check it out. Athmospheric.

    I was going to say something disparaging about him but this aint the time, RIP.


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    rovert
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    Lets not mention the whole chlid porn thing....


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    mike65
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    ?


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    JP Liz V1
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    RIP
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    Dudess
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    rovert wrote: »
    Lets not mention the whole chlid porn thing....
    Indeed, let's not - because it's a figment of the imagination?


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    tbh
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Indeed, let's not - because it's a figment of the imagination?

    the rest of us were ignoring it....was working well for a while there.


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    mike65
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    I risked a call from the cops by googling and could'nt find anything, so I suspect Rovert has confused (somehow!) Malc with Jonathan King. Another pop impresario.


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    rovert
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Indeed, let's not - because it's a figment of the imagination?

    Nope he was a "new wave child photographer"


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    latenia
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    His image suffered unfairly due to the dominance of punk zealots in the music press through the 80s and 90s but IMO he was more of a bandwagon creator than jumper with an uncanny eye for spotting trends at their outset. Without him there wouldn't have been the Pistols-that's indisputable. I even prefer ...Swindle... to Never Mind... which is just about the worst heresy imaginable to punks.

    I don't know how much he was involved musically with some of his releases but here are 2 of the best songs of the 80s from any genre:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcc3mgXnUzY



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdu7OYRXjY


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    mike65
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    rovert wrote: »
    Nope he was a "new wave child photographer"

    What the hell are you on? Get us some evidence to back your claim or shut up.


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    Dudess
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    tbh wrote: »
    the rest of us were ignoring it....was working well for a while there.
    I was curious. Mike was too.
    rovert wrote: »
    Nope he was a "new wave child photographer"
    I can't find a link to suggest it, but that's child porn?


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    mike65
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    Ah I think I might be finally getting it - Bow Wow Wow? Annabella Lwin


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    rovert
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    mike65 wrote: »
    What the hell are you on? Get us some evidence to back your claim or shut up.

    Shut up? Charming

    Read Rip It Up and Start Again by Simon Reynolds and stop being so reactionary guys


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    mike65
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    Stop being so flipping "coy"


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    Dudess
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    But if you post a comment effectively accusing him of being involved in child porn, you can hardly expect people not to be curious. Or "reactionary" as you call it. You've offered little in the way of explanation, that's all that's being asked of you - is that so unreasonable?


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    rovert
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    Dudess wrote: »
    But if you post a comment effectively accusing him of being involved in child porn, you can hardly expect people not to be curious. Or "reactionary" as you call it. You've offered little in the way of explanation, that's all that's being asked of you - is that so unreasonable?

    Arent you the person who called it a figment of my imagination? Sorry but that is reactionary.

    Sorry if I thought more people in a thread about Malcom McLaren on a music forum read one of the more famous and influencial music books ever written. :rolleyes:


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    Dudess
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    I admit I didn't read it - but seeing as I can't even find a link to this indiscretion of his via Google, it's nothing too scandalous is it?


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    Spiritoftheseventies
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    So for anyone who forgot McLaren put together the Pistols. For a small brief period in the seventies they turned everything on its head.
    The single sleeve for God Save the Queen was inspired.

    god_save_the_queen.jpg

    It was organized chaos but inspired a generation of musicians. Would hate to think he was remembered for a song as bad as double dutch


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    tbh
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    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    So for anyone who forgot McLaren put together the Pistols. For a small brief period in the seventies they turned everything on its head.
    The single sleeve for God Save the Queen was inspired.

    god_save_the_queen.jpg

    It was organized chaos but inspired a generation of musicians. Would hate to think he was remembered for a song as bad as double dutch

    dude! double dutch is an amazing piece of music - if you were around at the time, I guarantee you'd never heard anything like it before. 3 years before "Graceland" made african rhythms cool to a white middle class audience :)


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    Spiritoftheseventies
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    yeah heard the song. Not bad. But from the manager of a band that produced some of the greatest punk songs of all time it was a bit of a let down


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    tbh
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    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    yeah heard the song. Not bad. But from the manager of a band that produced some of the greatest punk songs of all time it was a bit of a let down

    I can understand that, if you're more into punk. I remember it blowing my nine-year old mind - first time I'd ever heard that kind of music, really turned me on. And of course he brought hip-hop - as in, the true, five pillars hip-hop, to the UK and Ireland.


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    rovert
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    Dudess wrote: »
    I admit I didn't read it - but seeing as I can't even find a link to this indiscretion of his via Google, it's nothing too scandalous is it?

    Ok then master researcher :rolleyes:

    Must be a figment of my imagination that he threatened two 13 year old girls to post nude for a magazine he was launching.


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    Spiritoftheseventies
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    Yeah the song was ahead of its time. The only thing I would have against him was how he let the pistols flounder after first album. Got a bit embarrassing in the end.


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