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C+C my... erm... everything?
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12-04-2010 10:17pm#1Hey guys,
I was just wondering if I could ask for some feedback and opinions on some of my shots. Still at the beginning of the old road of photography, so still very new to everything.
I've been playing about with the camera for a few months (well... on and off. I'd say I've only really been using it for a couple of weeks.. that's my excuse, anyway :pac: ).
A copy of Understanding Exposure (finally) arrived today that I ordered online, but I only got a short chance to look at it. I'm hoping it'll be as useful/informative as many of the users on here seem to say it is.
So anyway, I was wondering if anyone fancied taking a mooch through my Pix account (linked to in my sig) and would fancy letting me know what they think? Is there anything in there that'd be considered good? anything overly bad?
I'm aware all of my photographs are piss poor in comparison to what floats around here daily, but I'd like to try and get some constructive criticism early on, before I start trying to venture out regularly with the intention of taking photographs.
So yeah... apologies if I'm asking a lot, but I just thought there'd be no harm in asking
(and by the way, if anyone does bother to go to the Pix account, you can ignore the WWE folder, it's just a lot of paint.net messing and is generally poorly done, which I'm aware of).
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melekalikimaka wrote: »we all start somewhere... and we all are learning, witht that book you'll pick up the basics asap, then its all down to techniques and practice, and taking c and c onboard, i think the last bit is vital...
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A detailed C&C is quite a lot to ask for and you'll be lucky to get one. I had a look at your stream. There's not much in there. I'm limited to about 16 images per post so thats what cover.
Disclaimer:
Let me stress how important it is to take this with a large lump of salt. What you learn by getting an honest C&C is how to look at your own images from a totally different perspective than your own. That's the exercise. Not weather I like your image or not. I couldn't give a s**t about your images to be perfectly honest. It's about you learning to see your own images in the cold detached light of the day.
The exercise is good for me too. By examining your images, I gain perspective and opinion which in turn helps me develop as a photographer.
Image title PA020567-PP2
Nice fore background thing going on here. Exposure is fine. Colours are fine too. Horizon is straight. The sky is a bit boring. The bit of empty space on the right dosn't work.
My simple suggestion:
It would have been worth it to wait for someone to walk into that space. Even send someone, one of your mates over to walk towards the beach front. Even a beach ball. Just something to catch your eye. It would lead your eye from foreground to the middle ground (Your mate/Beach ball), then to the background.
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Image title Sunset
Seen this shot before. Anyone who goes to on holidays to somewhere tropical will take one of these. It's not a bad image. The horizon is straight, But it's smack bang across the middle. The overall colour of the image is really nice.
My suggestion:
Why have too much water there when the clouds are much more interesting. Split the image at the horizon to the lower third. Think the power of three.
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Image title Lanzarote
Much the same as the last image. Horizon is in the middle again. Not much going on. The light looks OK. Nice evening sun shining on the town and clouds.
My suggestion:
Zoom into where the action is in the picture. The town with the beautiful light and clouds is where it's at. The rest is just dull.
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Image title Surf
Nothing interesting here.
My suggestion:
Either retake from a lower position or Delete it!
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Image title Policia Local
Is that selective colouring of a police car while you are on holidays. I want some of what you're on.
My suggestion:
Delete!
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Image title To Hull And Back
This is my favorite of yours. The horizon is straight, The light looks good and the boat is in a nice position on the image. the two poles add to the image and keeps your eyes from following the horizon and wandering off the side of the page.
My suggestion:
If your perspective was a little lower I think it would enhance the image. The boat would look almost on the horizon and the poles would cut the horizon completely.
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Image title Mornington
Nice enough image. The horizon is in the top half. Though it seems a little crooked, or is it my eyes. I like the angle of the peir/wall type structure. The people on the beach keeps me looking at the image and adds a little interest.
My suggestion:
Don't know what you could do to improve this. Looks fine as is.
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Image title P3190535 - PP
Phallic symbol! Needs no comments.
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Image title Concrete Flower
I've seen this before in a million threads on a million websites. The positioning of the plant is OK. Good use of DOF.
My suggestion:
If you want us to focus on the plant, there a few ways you can do it. One of my favorites is to make the area of the plant and the plant itself brighter than the whole image. Think vignette! Simple but effective.
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Image title P2090900
I like this shot. The black and white conversion looks good enough. There is a foreground (text on the lifebouy), middle ground (white thing surrounding it), background (bridge and river) thing going on.
My suggestion:
I'd like to see more of the bridge and the river. My eye is following the river but is stopped abruptly by the edge of the image. I'd like to see further down to a vanishing point. It would be more comfortable for the viewer.
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Image title P6220202
Boring.
My suggestion:
Delete it.
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Image title Scotch Hall
Nice enough shot. Again, it's been done before. I have one myself over the liffey. Theres nothing original about it.
My suggestion:
Try and make the blacks a little darker. It's a night time shot. A bit of PP using curves will sort that out.
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Image title Bridge Of Peace
Cute shot. If it wasn't for the smiley face i'd say it was similar to image P6220202.
My suggestion:
Nothing to do here. Smiley Face is timeless.
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Image title Ramparts
Nice stylized image. I don't like the perspective though. But nothing you could do about that. The general colour of the image is nice.
My suggestion:
Would make a good scene for HDR. The contrasts in the image is a little overpowering. The shadows could be opened up a little in PP.
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Image title Empty Bench - Ramparts
This is my other favorite of yours. The perspective is perfect. The vanishing point goes off into the distance. Though it could be a little more toward the center of the image to be most comfortable. I love the deserted feel about the whole image. Well done on this.
My suggestions:
If this shot had been taken from shoulder height, you would say it was boring. Low down and you create a whole new dimension to the image. I wouldn't change anything.
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A detailed C&C is quite a lot to ask for and you'll be lucky to get one. I had a look at your stream. There's not much in there. I'm limited to about 16 images per post so thats what cover.
And I appreciate you covering so many of my images. Thank you. It's very much appreciated.
I see what you mean about the empty space, and I agree, it does make that section of the photograph fairly bland looking. I'm not going to lie and say I was taking it into consideration at the time or anything. I wasn't, and even if I had the choice to put someone/something there at the time, I probably wouldn't have (photo was taken last September, I was only really starting to play about with the camera). In saying that, looking at it now, I genuinely can see how that'd make the photograph look significantly better. Sound advice.Image title PA020567-PP2
Nice fore background thing going on here. Exposure is fine. Colours are fine too. Horizon is straight. The sky is a bit boring. The bit of empty space on the right dosn't work.
My simple suggestion:
It would have been worth it to wait for someone to walk into that space. Even send someone, one of your mates over to walk towards the beach front. Even a beach ball. Just something to catch your eye. It would lead your eye from foreground to the middle ground (Your mate/Beach ball), then to the background.
The reason I had so much water in the shot, was because it's along where the bottom of the image ends, that the reflection of the sun along the water also ends. I agree that it's the same kind of shot that everyone with a camera will inevitably take... but I suppose that's why I took it . I was still learning over there at the time and to be completely honest, was ridiculously happy with how it came out (though it has gone through a slight saturation/contrast boost).Image title Sunset
Seen this shot before. Anyone who goes to on holidays to somewhere tropical will take one of these. It's not a bad image. The horizon is straight, But it's smack bang across the middle. The overall colour of the image is really nice.
My suggestion:
Why have too much water there when the clouds are much more interesting. Split the image at the horizon to the lower third. Think the power of three.
The above photo was taken at the same place as the "sunset" one above it, but looking in the opposite direction (though at a different time).Image title Lanzarote
Much the same as the last image. Horizon is in the middle again. Not much going on. The light looks OK. Nice evening sun shining on the town and clouds.
My suggestion:
Zoom into where the action is in the picture. The town with the beautiful light and clouds is where it's at. The rest is just dull.
When you negate the horizon being in the middle, do you think it's best to have it higher or lower? Is there a general rule of thumb? In my head (I haven't looked up any horizon images on Google or anything, though I will soon enough to see how they're captured), when I think of the horizon being higher or lower in an image like the above one, I feel that the image will become less appealing, as the sky/water will take up a lot more of the shot than it already is, and may result in too much sky/water in the image? I hadn't considered zooming in, to be honest. I was kind of going for a "distant landscape" kind of shot. Obviously backfired
From my own personal standpoint (and again, they're my photos, so whilst I try to be objective, I apologise if I come across biased or anything at all), i like this photo. Don't get me wrong, i can see why it would be percieved as dull and uninteresting, but I just like it for some reason (though I don't like how the water changes colour as it becomes shallower).Image title Surf
Nothing interesting here.
My suggestion:
Either retake from a lower position or Delete it!
When you say retake from a lower position, do you mean pretty much retake from on the rocks themself? So the water is essentially coming toward the camera?
This was pretty much just a snapshot photograph. There was no though really put into it. It pulled up and the guys got out. They didn't look very happy so I wanted to take the photograph quickly before they returned (I was on the other side of the car when it stopped, so I had to get around to 'this' side of it before taking the photo).Image title Policia Local
Is that selective colouring of a police car while you are on holidays. I want some of what you're on.
My suggestion:
Delete!
There's not a lot going on in it at all, except I wanted a photograph of a Police car (I'm fond of the emergency services). The selective colouring was just me trying it out (hadn't done it prior to this).
Thanks for the kind words regarding this. This is one of the only photographs I've probably ever taken where I actually knew what I wanted to achieve. I hadn't thought of getting lower down, good suggestion.Image title To Hull And Back
This is my favorite of yours. The horizon is straight, The light looks good and the boat is in a nice position on the image. the two poles add to the image and keeps your eyes from following the horizon and wandering off the side of the page.
My suggestion:
If your perspective was a little lower I think it would enhance the image. The boat would look almost on the horizon and the poles would cut the horizon completely.
The horizon isn't too far off, I don't think. I think it's just the zig-zag rocks that make it look that way? The stones/wall type structure is what I was concentrating on with the photograph.Image title Mornington
Nice enough image. The horizon is in the top half. Though it seems a little crooked, or is it my eyes. I like the angle of the peir/wall type structure. The people on the beach keeps me looking at the image and adds a little interest.
My suggestion:
Don't know what you could do to improve this. Looks fine as is.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that.Image title P3190535 - PP
Phallic symbol! Needs no comments.
I think there is too much of a 'background' to this image? This was actually one of the first images I took with my DSLR. Just shortly after unboxing it. I liked the DOF effect I got, but admittedly, hadn't a bean how I got it.Image title Concrete Flower
I've seen this before in a million threads on a million websites. The positioning of the plant is OK. Good use of DOF.
My suggestion:
If you want us to focus on the plant, there a few ways you can do it. One of my favorites is to make the area of the plant and the plant itself brighter than the whole image. Think vignette! Simple but effective.
I see what you're saying about the 'vanishing point' not being there. If I'm being honest, although I must have liked the photograph at the time, looking at it now, I'm not too mad about the image as a whole. A friend of mine who was at my house recently and mooching on my PC said he quite liked it (knows nothing of photography... much like me!) but was fond of it. To me, personally, i think it looks a bit sloppy or something though? A bit all over the place?Image title P2090900
I like this shot. The black and white conversion looks good enough. There is a foreground (text on the lifebouy), middle ground (white thing surrounding it), background (bridge and river) thing going on.
My suggestion:
I'd like to see more of the bridge and the river. My eye is following the river but is stopped abruptly by the edge of the image. I'd like to see further down to a vanishing point. It would be more comfortable for the viewer.
I know I asked for C+C, so I'm not trying to C+C myself here, but just looking to see if you'd agree/disagree with that point?
I agree. I'm not sure why I've kept it to be honest. Although whenever I look at it I do feel like it could be a good photograph, but is missing something?Image title P6220202
Boring.
My suggestion:
Delete it.
I actually have another version of this that is messed about with a little (I must've uploaded the wrong one, or edited it after uploading?Image title Scotch Hall
Nice enough shot. Again, it's been done before. I have one myself over the liffey. Theres nothing original about it.
My suggestion:
Try and make the blacks a little darker. It's a night time shot. A bit of PP using curves will sort that out.
Do you feel that makes it any better or worse? I have to admit, it's actually one of my favourite photographs that I've taken. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing to say.
When I took this I wasn't actually focusing on the 'Smiley Face' (it was unintentional, i only noticed it when I was looking at the image on the conputer, and never really expected anyone else to see it).Image title Bridge Of Peace
Cute shot. If it wasn't for the smiley face i'd say it was similar to image P6220202.
My suggestion:
Nothing to do here. Smiley Face is timeless.
I must try taking a photograph similar to that again with an attempt at HDR actually (of course It'd be a while before it's snowy again) but during the summer it might be worth a shot. I have yet to try my hand at a proper HDR attempt.Image title Ramparts
Nice stylized image. I don't like the perspective though. But nothing you could do about that. The general colour of the image is nice.
My suggestion:
Would make a good scene for HDR. The contrasts in the image is a little overpowering. The shadows could be opened up a little in PP.
Thank you. I like this photograph too. When i was taking it I was trying to align the back of the bench with the wall behind it for the most part. I believe I only took it once, though, so i'm quite happy people like it.Image title Empty Bench - Ramparts
This is my other favorite of yours. The perspective is perfect. The vanishing point goes off into the distance. Though it could be a little more toward the center of the image to be most comfortable. I love the deserted feel about the whole image. Well done on this.
My suggestions:
If this shot had been taken from shoulder height, you would say it was boring. Low down and you create a whole new dimension to the image. I wouldn't change anything.
I think I just need to start getting out and about more with the camera to different places. Droghda Town is so dull and boring to photograph. There's really not a lot in it worth while.
Oshead, i really, thoroughly appreacite you taking the time to C+C so many of my images. Thank you.
I'll re-read the comments in this thread over and over and hopefully, with Understanding Exposure also coming into it, I'll pick a few things up.0 -
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